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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 16, 2010 10:40:31 GMT
Going with my head this week. Worcester 1 - 2 Workington attendance 690. Bad week at work makes me feel a little down beat about this one add to that the lack of football at the lane for 2 weeks and last weeks defeat mixed with the injuries makes me feel the crowd will be down too. I so hope I am wrong.
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 16, 2010 7:05:22 GMT
The only route I could imagine is taking any capital after selling to Careys to Mr Duckworth. However, any approach would bring action from SMD. If a new club were formed then there'd be no capital to take to him. Could anyone have devised a worst set of contracts for the club than those between us, Careys and SMD? I wouldn't give any money to Mr Duckworth, as the saying goes 'you can judge a man by the company he keeps' Whittington's finest, David Hallmark, former Worcester RFC Chairman, I also believe still acts for them professionally & Anthony Glossop Chairman of St Modwen sits on the worriers board. These two have done enough to kill off the club & I would hate to think they would get a further benefit from their actions. As the saying goes 'It is not what you know but WHO you know
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 15, 2010 19:56:35 GMT
I think you can get a cream or suppository for that Rob those supositories were rubbish, for all the good they did I may as well have shoved them up me a**e. from that distressed look on your face i was sure you already had ;D
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 15, 2010 19:05:00 GMT
Could anyone have devised a worst set of contracts for the club than those between us, Careys and SMD? Faust and Mephistopheles? I think you can get a cream or suppository for that Rob
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 15, 2010 8:31:46 GMT
Think you`ve got that one right,birdfeeder! Any dreams that the Council will help fund a new home are just that-dreams-as they are in the process of finalising the requirement to slash staff and services.Imagine the outcry if old folks` bus passes were sacrificed just to get WCFC out of their self-generated s**t ! Done correctly, the stadium should be revenue generating for the council, providing sporting facilities for the city, funded by private money from local business (Naming rights etc), the football club (remains of the sell off) and the council could be putting in very little. They might want to provide the legal backing to fight the contracts that we have signed up' to, just to ensure they get thier money. Yes, much of this is a pipe dream, but it is all possible and without investigating we might as well just close the doors and start following that crap they call Barclays premier league.
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 14, 2010 13:33:47 GMT
Actually they have! WCFC are commited to paying for a stadium to be built by SMD at Nunnery Way, that is contractual, and is so until 2017. Of course they don't have to play football at the stadium they've paid for, but they have to pay for it - there's no way out of that one. But they only have to pay for it if theyt have the planning permission to build it ... right? No permission, no pay. Until 2017 and beyond they can play anywhere they like then, for instance a new stadium built in the city by the council?
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 14, 2010 11:59:49 GMT
The Lane has been sold, we will clear our debt. We have to make provision to play football, where that is I presume has not been stated in the contract. I mean they have not said we have to play football at Nunnery Way or not at all. Meanwhile, the council with a mixture of private and public money build the new ambitious landmark stadium which they want. WCFC pay rent until such time as the the plans are passed or rejected. And what council in it's right mind are going to pass plans for another stadium whilst they build their own? The football club are not breaking any contracts (are they??), the council are well within their right to build their own stadium to rent out just not sure how far off the mark i am about the interim period between selling up and have Nunnery in theory ready to play in. Are we allowede to rent, share or whatever until the contract is frustrated. Our rent might just be for the exact amount we have left over following sale of the ground? "A down payment, certainly NOT m'lud" Yes a very wild theory but, JCP, is it possible in practice?? A hell of a lot of talking would need to be done between WCFC Supporters Trust and the council I am sure, and a lot more complications but in theory..........?
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 14, 2010 11:48:47 GMT
Indeed Ealing. That is why I suggest that the Trust becomes the enabling vehicle for any sort of protest project. The club can not be seen to be breaking the contract. I didnt realise any sort of funding had been made available all that time ago if we had just gone for the stadium and no 'enabling'. I am sure the personnel involved have moved around in the council as it most certainly has in the football, so maybe it is time for a new era, a get together with the council to see if agreement can be made. Yes we are contracted to SMD but that does not stop the council building a stadium which we could rent until such time that we are free to buy a share in it or eventually outright. Lea and perrins was an example, I am sure a company some where would consider such a proposal? The details I am sure can be found out; my point is really to use your WN to inform the people of Worcester of the FACTS. The way previous board members have 'made things difficult' for the current regime and the best way forward for the club and how the objections can benefit the club. JCP's agenda can then be the City's agenda
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 14, 2010 11:11:43 GMT
well it would at least make approaching a possible ground naming sponsor more viable, should I say. I can not see many companies wanting to be associated with a lock up and go ground. AND more importantly everyone gets what they want. The city, and the city council get the landmark ground they want, the club can play football and the sponsors get a ground they can use to promote their business, bring clients to, use for meetings etc.
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 14, 2010 10:56:29 GMT
In terms of the council support, I was thinking along the lines of financial support. If they matched the money that WCFC put into the project we start to have an amount of money that could produce the sort of stadium the Council want and not some lock up and leave ground. With that sort of funding you can then approach a real business, for example a Lea and Perrins or similar who could take up naming rights for the next 5 years in exchange for the remaining funding. This will the deliver a stadium that is worthy of the sponsors name, as well as meeting the clubs needs and the vision the council have. I am knocking the council totally, but a little financial help certainly wouldn't go a miss
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 14, 2010 10:24:51 GMT
"Lets hope they will do the decent thing now and start looking more closely into what has really been going on during the last 5 or 6 years. Somehow though, I doubt it!" Worcester News report on this is ongoing, final report due May 2018.........if we get our skates on. A thought.... Rob C how about starting a full and proper campaign run through the newly found support of 'your' WN. Press release to say once again just where the Supoprters Trust stand, where the club stand and what steps should be taken to correct the problem. You might actually get the support of the town in turning down the plans. I wonder what the chances are of finding a Worcester City supporting contracts specialising solicitor who might like to fight the cause for free on behalf of the club. Ok ok I am dreaming but previously unfound support in some form may be out there. Maybe even from our own council? (What a dreamer I can be!!) I am sure the club could not 'publicly' support such a campaign for contractual reasons but a ground swell of support might be useful. Don't you wish we had a council like Gateshead who threw their whole support behind the club and even www.gateshead.gov.uk/Council%20and%20Democracy/news/News%20Articles/Councilandfootballclubinnewpartnership.aspx" [glow=red,2,300]How It Should BE Done!![/glow]
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 13, 2010 16:31:48 GMT
Have to agree with that, we should have had a right go at Huddersfield and i too think we would have come out on top. Last year Boston would certainly think we were an easy touch, they have not seen us this year so hopefully they still think we are an easy touch and come prepared the same way. Take us lightly at their peril
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 13, 2010 16:17:06 GMT
Don't think we are being downbeat pendulum, I do think we have a chance to beat Boston. My thinking is maybe a 6/4 chance of beating Boston to get thru' or an odds on of beating a much lower side, then to draw a big gun in the next round at home. We get the best of both worlds, prize money for winning this round which the club is desperate for and maybe a Crawley, Wimbledon or even Kidderminster at home in front of 4000 and an even bigger pay day. I thinking purely of this being money making and trying to improve our chances of a bigger income. We can't guarantee home draws but as Jem says we can draw and get them to the lane but if we get knocked out by a decent side away from home then we aren't going to make a whole load are we? From what i remember we have not budget for any cup run so to even get 1 or 2 wins might help us strengthen the squad, especially in defence, or pay for a solicitor lol
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 13, 2010 13:32:35 GMT
The only worse draw could have been Alfreton or Telford away couldn't it? I wouldn't give us a hope for that one I'm afraid, although as Niels says they did lose 2-1 at home to Nuneaton. Problem is they are scoring a lot of goals; I think they have four players among the leading scorers in our division! It may be the best thing that we are playing them away. we seem to perfom better away at the moment. Sorry JCP can't agree, if we are going to do well in the league then yes we need to beat decent sides, but in the cup you can beat some real rubbish, earn £3000 from the FA for doing it and then hopefully get a league side who are most likely to give us a spanking but we get the gate money for it and have got some nice bonuses for winning ear;lier rounds too. we are NEVER going to win the FA Cup but lets get noticed for making it through some of the early rounds and if we have to do it (guarantee it would be a bit strong look at Erith beating slough!) beating some sides much lower in the pyramid than us then so be it.
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 13, 2010 11:35:49 GMT
Wouldn't have been so bad if it had been a home draw. Well surprises do happen You can never say supporting Worcester City is boring
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 11, 2010 15:52:13 GMT
bugger but glad I didn't travel in the end i was a close to go going
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 11, 2010 15:35:16 GMT
All I can find working is the rugby on bbc
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 11, 2010 15:34:11 GMT
Oh s##t What is going wrong with that back 4 Is big Mc playing and if so at the back or up front?
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 10, 2010 15:44:12 GMT
I like the way WN get their final say on the matter and then shut it down before anyone can comment on Mr Wards reply to you, JCP. And they call that a fair debate???
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 10, 2010 7:34:21 GMT
2-1 to City. Glover and Thorley
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 10, 2010 7:33:37 GMT
Hopefully the increased crowds we have got lately which have been 200- 400 over budget. And all being well that over night stay will pay off and they will have the energy to win the game. Can't forget the last time that the Trust paid for them to stay over in lewes and they had the energy to score three times in the last 10 minutes. That was a game and a half to be at, will never forget that nor the beer festival after hey Rhys! Wonder if Anthony's scarf is still there And if we win then hopefully we can exceed 1000 again for the Workington game??? Then it will be worth every penny wasnt there ment to be a beer festival at the lane this season? We are still hoping to run it. The original weekend we had planned it for coincided with the Worcester CAMRA branch event on Pitchcroft so it will now probably be around Christmas or early in the New Year.
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 10, 2010 7:31:29 GMT
i was speaking to a friend who went down for the first time in a while saturday, and he said ill only come down for the big games as im not going to pay 11 pound every game, i think its the same with a lot of people . the standard of play now is great but the prices arnt apealing I don't think £11 is unreasonable but it certainly isn't cheap. There are clubs in our league charging £10 and I think I read Blyth charge £9 to get in. I can understand people not coming every week but having seen the way we play this year you would think people would want to come and watch
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 9, 2010 20:07:52 GMT
I reckon this could be a good year for a bit of a cup run. It is just all so dependant on getting a decent home draw first up. Get through that an a big club at home or away would certainly help financially. I still feel that that we are doing things right, not putting any undue pressure on ourselves and building a side that can play football, win games and if we can keep them together and even improve on the squad possibly even be fighting for a top 6 place next season. It is just dependant on a decent crowd wanting to watch week in and week out.
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 9, 2010 17:40:41 GMT
Hopefully the increased crowds we have got lately which have been 200- 400 over budget. And all being well that over night stay will pay off and they will have the energy to win the game. Can't forget the last time that the Trust paid for them to stay over in lewes and they had the energy to score three times in the last 10 minutes. That was a game and a half to be at, will never forget that nor the beer festival after hey Rhys! Wonder if Anthony's scarf is still there And if we win then hopefully we can exceed 1000 again for the Workington game??? Then it will be worth every penny
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 9, 2010 7:26:21 GMT
They may end up playing the rest of the season with a youth team, similar to the way Weymouth had to last season.
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 8, 2010 13:28:00 GMT
Very sad news.... but for the grace of God ........... Wonder if they have any defenders going free tho
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 8, 2010 11:18:09 GMT
Now it is wait and see Will this make a blind bit of difference to SMD etc Time will tell, but as we know.... Time is Tight
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 8, 2010 10:42:33 GMT
I remember during the World Cup shouting at the television "Rooney! You couldn't score in a brothel" How stupid do I feel now? LOL
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 7, 2010 15:53:04 GMT
But as web sites go it is informative
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Sept 7, 2010 15:49:39 GMT
A bit out of date, how long is it since we charged £9 to get in and £2 for a programme How time fly's
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