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Post by jimbo on Jul 7, 2016 23:51:10 GMT
Hampson lost any respect I had for him this evening. Invited Geoff Berkeley to the AGM, but when he arrived asked him to wait outside then ignored him, further ignored a shareholder who asked why the press were not invited into the room. Even if you disagree with what someone else is saying, you should still show them the courtesy of your attention, as they gave to you. You should probably also no try and walk out the room as people are trying to talk to you. Leaving it up to the solicitor he has spent good club money on to close the meeting on his behalf - I've never been in a meeting before now where the chair doesn't close the meeting! Ignoring his own agenda, which had 'AOB' on it. Trying to leave whilst shareholders who you should be accountable to as chairman want to talk to you. Those who have put up with him for so many years - thank you for persevering and well done on all your efforts to try and save the club. Sadly, I think this might be the final nail in the coffin for Worcester City Football Club Limited. Inviting Geoff into the meeting was another act of naivety on AH's behalf: this was a private shareholders meeting & the legal representative would have told 'the dick' that it was illegal to have a non board member present !!
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Post by jimbo on Jul 7, 2016 21:20:18 GMT
AOB was last item on the agenda they flashed up on their PowerPoint presentation at the start of the meeting. a Sorry, I didn't see that I was only looking at the agenda posted.
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Post by jimbo on Jul 7, 2016 21:05:07 GMT
What a complete disgrace. For that solicitor to try and distance himself from either side and state he was only there to ensure the meeting was run correctly and then turn around and declare the meeting closed, without even finishing their own f**king agenda, is unforgivable. Oh no wait, I guess "Next Steps" and "AOB" would have been pretty uncomfortable for the board. I call it a board, but they didn't seem to bother coming. I am assuming that as this was such an important constitutional vote that a legal representative had to be present. Why we could not have asked a Worcester firm to donate their time free is a different matter (DH might have done it haha). However, without trying to sound pedantic. I have three notification letters & none of them have AOB business on them, so unless there was something missing on mine the solicitor was quite right to close the meeting. AH on the other hand could have answered some questions, perhaps he was just wary of the remarks of his private meetings with Councillors or perhaps he was just being a spineless coward !!
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Post by jimbo on Jul 7, 2016 20:55:50 GMT
I also learnt tonight that our manager appears to be backing the board now rather than the trust...... Why ??
Because he knows something we dont!!
Possibly another example of no transparency then ??
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Post by jimbo on Jul 7, 2016 20:35:32 GMT
Maybe it's time to think about AFC Worcester City? I was asked by several people (including a couple of ex directors) what I thought the future was if the vote went against us tonight. I said some sort of Phoenix Club as there's enough drive & commitment within the trust to make it happen. I also said that there would be people like myself who 'stand on the sidelines' who would probably be willing to get more involved. So: is this the only real alternative for us ? I don't think the trust think it is as some of them said tonight that they'd work on their own from now on....... Something the board have been misguidedly doing for the last 5 years !! Without questioning the dedication, knowledge, contacts etc of the trust, I cannot understand why there was not a contingency plan in place to cover the vote tonight as in my experience the board have always had enough proxy votes to carry any motion they want. I also learnt tonight that our manager appears to be backing the board now rather than the trust...... Why ?? It was a disgrace to the board that only the chairman attended, surely anyone that was not overseas could have spared a couple of hours of their time, even if they had to leave early for an emergency !! I also found it unbelievable that AH would answer no questions after the voting results My final rant is: why did the guy that stood up asking for a vote of confidence in the chairman join in the chant 'resign' Weird.
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Post by jimbo on Jul 6, 2016 23:41:35 GMT
I'm struggling to find the venue for tomorrow night anywhere? Thx Steve Pp Hi steves, if you're a shareholder it will be on your invitation. By the sound of some of the comments on here, if you're known to oppose the board they might refuse entry if you do not take the invite or share certificates........ I hope I'm wrong on this !!!!
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Post by jimbo on Jul 6, 2016 23:41:02 GMT
I'm struggling to find the venue for tomorrow night anywhere? Thx Steve Hi steves, if you're a shareholder it will be on your invitation. By the sound of some of the comments on here, if you're known to oppose the board they might refuse entry....... I hope I'm wrong on this !!!!
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Post by jimbo on Jul 2, 2016 15:50:47 GMT
This is worrying I am abroad until the 4th my sons only have about 250 between them which might be able to make a difference I can get them signed but not to the solicitor in time I hope they will be able to count Why the 'F' is our board trying to make this so difficult ??,
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Post by jimbo on Jun 27, 2016 23:07:39 GMT
I hope our resident 'DJ, ANNOUNCER' ain't gonna be gloating on the board.
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Post by jimbo on Jun 26, 2016 18:52:58 GMT
Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately) I will be abroad for this 'pre-meeting so would be really grateful if someone could put a report on here, or privately if necessary. My question is..... Why on earth do we need a pre EGM meeting ? That really is baffling me !! Unless the mysterious plan b is revealed, it will make no difference whatsoever to the way I vote at the EGM. Oh & I can confirm that myself nor my 2 sons registered as shareholders at my address HAVE NOT received any official notification of this meeting. One other question that does not seem to have been answered yet is: At the EGM, is the vote on a show of hands as I have not 3 hands to raise or will it be the number of shares held ?
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Post by jimbo on Jun 25, 2016 13:46:42 GMT
Can I take the opportunity to congratulate the members of the Trust on a professional and informative meeting explaining all the benefits of changing the company Articles to become a Community Benefit Society. It was a pity that the Chairman and Vice Chairman plus other Directors of WCFC deemed not to attend as their presence would of ensured that they had a full understanding of the proposals. The graphs on display were of particular interest showing the slow financial decline of WCFC and which if continued in its present form will mean the disappearance of the Club within a few years. If any shareholders are following this I would urge you to read the Supporters Trust website and understand the proposals, if you are convinced please ensure you attend the EGM and vote for the change. Paul, I cannot believe there are shareholders still unaware of the situation. However, there may be a) some who naively think there will be some sort of payout on the money they originally invested or b) some who are unwilling to donate their shares for the good of the club & community. They should be the people to canvass & convinced of the error of their ways.
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Post by jimbo on May 29, 2016 23:38:47 GMT
Just a thought. If the vote to change the constitution is likely to be a close call (& I can understand some shareholders with £3,000 worth not wanting to donate their money to the community) Is it still possible time wise for supporters without shares to put a few hundred quid in ? Could that be a way of ensuring the decision goes our way ? I'm sure a few people on here & a few trust members do not have shares. So at the risk of being sounding insulting...... Let's ask them to put their money where their mouth is to earn their vote to get this EGM result.
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Post by jimbo on May 25, 2016 22:08:05 GMT
If there is a plan B, great ! However, I cannot agree with the comments regarding the fact that they should be made public (YET). Some boardroom stuff has to be kept confidential for the security of the business. However, the PR side of this is a joke..... Why on earth haven't (at least the shareholders) been told there is a possible alternative, at the very least we could have had a little more faith in them. Perhaps this is the reason the new board members, including The Trust representatives have not been as transparent as I'd have hoped.
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Post by jimbo on May 23, 2016 22:27:22 GMT
Tim go to Banbury Station next year, park on level 2 & you're almost on the platform. Did you notice Symmo was booed when his name was announced & a couple of times at the beginning of the match ? Completely baffled me.
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Post by jimbo on May 22, 2016 21:45:33 GMT
Perhaps it's because some of us think that any local football success 'rubs off' on all local teams & creates a better interest for all local teams !! Wouldn't it be great if we could attract the gates Hereford are ?
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Post by jimbo on May 22, 2016 18:23:04 GMT
Awful result, 1-0 up in 1 minute 20 seconds & looked like they were going to put the game to bed within 1/2 hour. Lost the plot completely in the 2nd 1/2. For the Symmo fans.... He should have had 2 goals but just couldn't get any power to the ball, but he didn't have a bad game at all. (Really baffled at him being booed when they read out the team sheet & a couple of times early in the match). Nice touch for him taking his baby on the pitch at the end of the match. Their number 8 ran the game from the centre of the pitch. Don't know who he is but he looked like a highly experienced player (will be googling him later). As for the standard of football: not bad at all, good open passing game using the whole pitch by bothe teams. From what I saw, today they would both hold there own in our league. On the bright side for me; I met up with my son, grandson, brother, some lads I trained up to 15 year olds & a couple of other old friends. Also the 1st time I've been to a match at the stadium.
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Post by jimbo on May 21, 2016 19:52:12 GMT
It's got to be good for local football Hereford at Wembley !! As an avid supporter for many, many years (before I moved to Worcester) & a closet supporter now. I'll be at Wembley cheering them on tomorrow. Is anyone else going (I think Tim is), It's going to be good to see Simmo score a hat trick at the world's 'home of football'. Also on a personal note, I'm really looking forward to ringing my Father in Law tomorrow as he lives in Morpeth !!
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Post by jimbo on May 19, 2016 21:40:22 GMT
I would have thought the decision to reject an EGM would need a majority vote from the board....... Why isn't this information being given to us shareholders ? I cannot believe that there isn't enough 'trust' & 'trust' sympathisers on the board to vote the EGM on to the agenda. What is going on behind closed doors ??
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Post by jimbo on May 18, 2016 22:28:53 GMT
Please, everyone. Don't panic. What difference does the change in leadership actually make? Have a read hereSo what is the point you're making Rob ? What difference in the leadership of the council or the WCFC board !! I am getting a little concerned that we now have trust members on the club board. but we are getting little or no news from them & it appears that the issue of the AGM is not being addressed by them...... Yet we are promised transparency !!
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Post by jimbo on May 18, 2016 20:33:21 GMT
Thanks for what you've done for us Nathan. Loved your quality, loved your aggression & loved your commitment.
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Post by jimbo on May 17, 2016 12:46:51 GMT
Just thought about the board's apparent lack of ideas etc. There are now several Trust members on the WCFC board, surely they will know what alternative plans are in line. If the Chairman won't inform us, why can't they ? And why can't they force the EGM issue ?
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Post by jimbo on May 17, 2016 12:43:47 GMT
QI gave Jem Pitt proxy on my 2 sons & my own for the meeting a few months ago. Can that still be used for this?
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Post by jimbo on May 7, 2016 10:35:21 GMT
The only way to 'just get on with it' to become fan owned I would imagine would be to form a completely new football club. The only way we can become a fan owned club is for the Company's constitution to be changed & the shareholders to relinquish there stake in its present form. This can only happen if proposed & voted for at an EGM. At that point, the assets of the company would be transferred to the new formation. This is one of the reasons the likes of myself & greenman & many others keep requesting an EGM. I'm pretty sure that this is all factual, if not I'm hoping Jem or Rob will correct me. Jimbo, no we do not need to form a new football club nor are we proposing that. The request for the EGM is to make amendments to the current constitution & current shareholders can keep their shares if they want to. As you know, this Club is already owned by supporters, but as individuals. What supporter ownership means is supporters joined together as a collective and owning 50+1% of the shares in this case through the Supporters Trust. There is a process to go through and we urge people to take the time to listen to the facts. The ST will give a presentation leading up to the EGM on what we are proposing. I hope people take the time to go along and listen so they can make an informed decision. Shareholders can choose to do whatever they want with their current shares but for all shareholders / owners in the future it would mean that the Board running the Club would HAVE to involve the owners in the running of the Club. It would not be able to sell off assets without their permission, it would not be able to sign into binding contracts which affect the clubs future without their permission. The Club's Solicitor would not be able to get away with saying "We do not have to ask the shareholders". The Club Solicitor would not be able to go around threatening people who disagree with him. As to alternatives, I am sure the Board will give a presentation on any other route which includes staying as we are. Rich I was not suggesting that we need to form a new club at all, I was simply answering the fact that someone had said we should 'just get on with it'. Something we all should know can't happen until the agreement is made at an EGM.
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Post by jimbo on May 7, 2016 7:55:56 GMT
The only way to 'just get on with it' to become fan owned I would imagine would be to form a completely new football club. The only way we can become a fan owned club is for the Company's constitution to be changed & the shareholders to relinquish there stake in its present form. This can only happen if proposed & voted for at an EGM. At that point, the assets of the company would be transferred to the new formation. This is one of the reasons the likes of myself & greenman & many others keep requesting an EGM. I'm pretty sure that this is all factual, if not I'm hoping Jem or Rob will correct me.
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Post by jimbo on May 6, 2016 20:35:52 GMT
Over the years I've given a load of !Busby Babes' posters to the club..... I stopped when I realised they were used to fund away travel rather than for the club ! I gave quite a lot of the 'Busby Babes' posters for the FC United match..... But was quite disappointed to hear some little girl said to sell them for a quid. I still have a few left, but would prefer to know that they will be sold at a reasonable price & that the money goes to the club. If anyone wants to deal with this please let me know.
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Post by jimbo on Apr 30, 2016 22:13:37 GMT
Awful first half, completely shown up by a decent team who actually seemed bothered, they played some nice stuff but City just stood off them and didn't press at all. Minihan absolutely dire defensively again, no composure, no awareness, thought he was improving a little but no. As a team we were not quick enough getting back for both their goals and caught out both times. We are sorely lacking a number 10 playmaker who can link the play from Jacko and Donellan to the front man, I have been saying this since Geddes left. Alun Webb was unlucky to get subbed, he looks technically decent but clear he's not used to the physicality of the league, and this was a tough game for him to make his full debut. Second half picked up a little, they took Danny Rowe off and seemed to be coasting, then coupled with our equaliser and a superb ovation for DB we had a bit of momentum for that man Lee Hughes to win the pen and convert it. Like him or not, he's been instrumental in keeping us up this season. Frankly we were lucky to get a point. We are so slow and ponderous on the ball, no one seems to move intelligently, its like playing Fifa and having the controller batteries die on you, nobody moves. Compare this to Fylde, Harrogate, Solihull - some of the players aren't even *that* technically gifted, but they move the ball quickly, with pace, and take 1 or 2 touches before moving it on. It's basic stuff. How many times today did we take 3 or 4 touches and only have one option, so the next pass was telegraphed and their defender could get tight and intercept. We aren't good enough, nor is anyone at this level, to play tiki taka stuff and take an age to find the perfect pass. I see this too much with United under van Gaal, it doesn't work. Press high, play with pace, play direct. Rant over. Well well well, it's a no brainier...... Carl, move upstairs you're replacement has put himself forward !!!!
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Post by jimbo on Apr 28, 2016 16:45:30 GMT
You may be missing my point !! Firstly, there was a 'faction' several years ago who thought we should voluntarily (virtually) to drop several leagues as a way of saving the club. I was & still am totally against the idea..... My point however was simply to say the Hereford have seen an increase in gates NOT a drop.
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Post by jimbo on Apr 28, 2016 13:02:32 GMT
Thesecondjack, I'm not too sure that your statement regarding dropping down leagues would mean less people turning out to support us. Hereford is a classic example of a bankrupt club being bought back to life by the supporters. They are getting bigger gates now than they've done for several years. They believe the reason for this phenomenon is simply down to the success on the field.
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Post by jimbo on Apr 27, 2016 22:57:23 GMT
Will there be a full report available for those of us that could not attend ??
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Post by jimbo on Apr 26, 2016 9:56:52 GMT
Bearing in mind that Carl is now a director of the club, I am sure that if he thought a new manager was needed he would suggest it in a board meeting. The guy has (without any doubt whatsoever) the clubs best interests foremost in his mind. Yes, we've not had a good season, barring winning the senior cup & a great FA cup run. But we have survived the league & kept the club afloat. I seriously feel for him if he reads some of the comments on here. But at least he's man enough to not let it get to him.
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