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Dec 10, 2015 15:23:50 GMT
Post by thesecondjack on Dec 10, 2015 15:23:50 GMT
Doubts are starting to creep in my end now. :/ I even spotted a story on the bbc website this morning about grassroots pitches nationwide not being up to standard. Surely we can help fix this if we get the go ahead! www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35054311
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Dec 10, 2015 16:35:59 GMT
Post by The Verner on Dec 10, 2015 16:35:59 GMT
Doubts are starting to creep in my end now. :/ I even spotted a story on the bbc website this morning about grassroots pitches nationwide not being up to standard. Surely we can help fix this if we get the go ahead! www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35054311Keep The Faith !
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Dec 10, 2015 17:00:06 GMT
Post by Mark on Dec 10, 2015 17:00:06 GMT
I bet that article doesn't get posted on the PPP website
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Dec 10, 2015 21:10:29 GMT
Post by stamoo on Dec 10, 2015 21:10:29 GMT
Everyone may have seen this already but from the FA Survey they have concluded that: "A significant slice of the £260m budget over the next four years has been allocated to improving facilities directly – with investment set aside to bring the number of all-weather 3G artificial grass pitches more in line with some of our European counterparts. New grass-turf pitches and improvements to a further 2,000 existing pitches are also in the pipeline. And with Government support, further funds have also been dedicated to build up to 150 new ‘Parklife’ football hubs across as many as 30 cities - with a pilot scheme only months from starting in Sheffield. " If ever there was a favourable wind blowing our way this must be it - surely the Council will see that the Perdiswell Bid is ahead of the curve in terms of developing local grassroots football facilities for the local community? AND there's money there to be had!!!! Read more at www.thefa.com/news/2015/dec/grassroots-survey-results-101215?utm_campaign=1331770&utm_content=1642569957&utm_medium=email&utm_source=SmartFocus#IoMgOpEd3PxUCGJJ.99
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Dec 11, 2015 15:32:28 GMT
Post by Woodenose on Dec 11, 2015 15:32:28 GMT
Everyone may have seen this already but from the FA Survey they have concluded that: "A significant slice of the £260m budget over the next four years has been allocated to improving facilities directly – with investment set aside to bring the number of all-weather 3G artificial grass pitches more in line with some of our European counterparts. New grass-turf pitches and improvements to a further 2,000 existing pitches are also in the pipeline. And with Government support, further funds have also been dedicated to build up to 150 new ‘Parklife’ football hubs across as many as 30 cities - with a pilot scheme only months from starting in Sheffield. " If ever there was a favourable wind blowing our way this must be it - surely the Council will see that the Perdiswell Bid is ahead of the curve in terms of developing local grassroots football facilities for the local community? AND there's money there to be had!!!! Read more at www.thefa.com/news/2015/dec/grassroots-survey-results-101215?utm_campaign=1331770&utm_content=1642569957&utm_medium=email&utm_source=SmartFocus#IoMgOpEd3PxUCGJJ.99Let's hope our City Council reads this and takes a favourable view on the application
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Dec 11, 2015 15:37:58 GMT
Post by thatloudbloke on Dec 11, 2015 15:37:58 GMT
Everyone may have seen this already but from the FA Survey they have concluded that: "A significant slice of the £260m budget over the next four years has been allocated to improving facilities directly – with investment set aside to bring the number of all-weather 3G artificial grass pitches more in line with some of our European counterparts. New grass-turf pitches and improvements to a further 2,000 existing pitches are also in the pipeline. And with Government support, further funds have also been dedicated to build up to 150 new ‘Parklife’ football hubs across as many as 30 cities - with a pilot scheme only months from starting in Sheffield. " If ever there was a favourable wind blowing our way this must be it - surely the Council will see that the Perdiswell Bid is ahead of the curve in terms of developing local grassroots football facilities for the local community? AND there's money there to be had!!!! Read more at www.thefa.com/news/2015/dec/grassroots-survey-results-101215?utm_campaign=1331770&utm_content=1642569957&utm_medium=email&utm_source=SmartFocus#IoMgOpEd3PxUCGJJ.99Let's hope our City Council reads this and takes a favourable view on the application
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Dec 11, 2015 15:40:56 GMT
Post by thatloudbloke on Dec 11, 2015 15:40:56 GMT
Let's hope our City Council reads this and takes a favourable view on the application
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Dec 11, 2015 15:43:50 GMT
Post by thatloudbloke on Dec 11, 2015 15:43:50 GMT
my last got lost, so here again... the council do not have it on this months agenda again, so that another month lost, not sure where the fault is, the council or the club, but we need to get the ball rolling...
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Dec 11, 2015 16:48:22 GMT
Post by leon on Dec 11, 2015 16:48:22 GMT
Entirely down to the council.
Maybe if we covered the Guildhall railings in City scarves and hats it would attract the attention of the local media outlets!
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Dec 14, 2015 9:40:36 GMT
Post by Woodenose on Dec 14, 2015 9:40:36 GMT
A major independent study on the the state of football pitches across Worcester has said too many are just not good enough. Quite a damming report, the council should take this on-board when it come to our application??
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Dec 14, 2015 10:53:06 GMT
Post by stamoo on Dec 14, 2015 10:53:06 GMT
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Dec 14, 2015 13:52:21 GMT
Post by thatloudbloke on Dec 14, 2015 13:52:21 GMT
thought these were good remarks JackTheSecond 1:42pm Mon 14 Dec 15 It's almost like we need a football club in the city, which is willing to be a benefit for the community, willing to maintain facilities for anyone to use, and create a sporting hub in the city. Surely this has to get the planning application for the perdiswell project on the agenda and get accepted! mrwrighty 1:48pm Mon 14 Dec 15 Just imagine if all the money wasted and pilfered by FIFA had been used to fund grass roots sports we would all have state of the art stadiums.
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Dec 14, 2015 14:10:56 GMT
Post by thesecondjack on Dec 14, 2015 14:10:56 GMT
I try.
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Dec 14, 2015 14:20:48 GMT
Post by greenman on Dec 14, 2015 14:20:48 GMT
Perhaps the Council are waiting to see if the Club agrees to change its constitution to the proposed Community based club as proposed by the Supporters Trust, and maybe at that time the stadium becomes a viable proposition. As it stands we have no future and therefore why give planning permission to WCFC Ltd when they could not proceed.
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Dec 14, 2015 21:14:19 GMT
Post by citytoon on Dec 14, 2015 21:14:19 GMT
Perhaps the Council are waiting to see if the Club agrees to change its constitution to the proposed Community based club as proposed by the Supporters Trust, and maybe at that time the stadium becomes a viable proposition. As it stands we have no future and therefore why give planning permission to WCFC Ltd when they could not proceed. Suspect you may be given the Council too much credit here...
Anyone from the ST able to confirm whether the ball is firmly in the Council's court to have the application heard or are discussions still taking place/issues still being resolved before that can take place?
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Dec 15, 2015 14:58:02 GMT
Post by greenman on Dec 15, 2015 14:58:02 GMT
I am sure the Council will be aware of the parlous financial situation of WCFC Ltd and know there would be no way they could proceed under the current status. Maybe at the AGM the Chairman will enlighten us as to his vision of the future of the club. I sincerely hope so as time is now running out.
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Dec 17, 2015 8:18:19 GMT
Post by citytoon on Dec 17, 2015 8:18:19 GMT
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Dec 17, 2015 17:25:45 GMT
Post by worcsbaggie on Dec 17, 2015 17:25:45 GMT
I know there are a lot of people working really hard and immense credit goes to them , but who thinks this is not going to happen.
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Dec 17, 2015 18:55:31 GMT
Post by thatloudbloke on Dec 17, 2015 18:55:31 GMT
so lets get the ball rolling all city supporters should be going with the idea that it is going to happen, if we start to put uncertainties on the city banter board then that will just help the mamby pamby people who do not want it to happen, we need to stand together in full support & have no negativity...
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Dec 18, 2015 19:00:40 GMT
Post by dragon on Dec 18, 2015 19:00:40 GMT
Good job Spurs don`t play in Worcester or they`d never get a new ground, would they ? 18 months council process gets them all they wanted WITH GOVERNMENT HELP ! This mob in the Faithful city will spin it out until there`s no money left to build.
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Jan 14, 2016 17:54:40 GMT
Post by citytoon on Jan 14, 2016 17:54:40 GMT
No mention on the January agenda: January AgendaIronically, a St Modwen application is being heard for the site at Nunnery Way...
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Jan 14, 2016 18:59:00 GMT
Post by Mark on Jan 14, 2016 18:59:00 GMT
I know there are a lot of people working really hard and immense credit goes to them , but who thinks this is not going to happen. I have serious doubts. Can you imagine putting in an application to build a house and still not having heard anything almost a year later?
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Jan 14, 2016 20:56:50 GMT
Post by dcx on Jan 14, 2016 20:56:50 GMT
There is silence from the Trust because there is nothing to say that hasn't already been said. The application is in with the council and we are waiting for it to be put onto the agenda of a planning committee meeting. So we have been waiting over 6 months for a crucial application for one of the City's sporting clubs to be heard by the council? Right... Something is afoot here, and it stinks. I cannot believe this is a normal timeframe for a planning application, I just can't. Are the ST saying there is no news, none whatsoever, about when this is likely to be heard? I cannot believe they have just sat back and waited for 6 months, you must have heard something?? Patience is a virtue and all that, but I can see the council stringing this along until it's no longer financially viable. I think it's fairly clear they don't want the Football Club back, and they will do everything they can to ensure that doesn't happen. What encouragement have they ever given?? How many more seasons can we survive in exile? Assuming we stay up this year, we could have one more season at Kiddy, then we would have to look elsewhere. At Bromsgrove/Evesham attendances would plummet to 300 or so, money starts to run out combined with uncertainty mean lower quality players and we struggle to stay in the league, and the downward spiral begins. We have potentially 2 more seasons in exile maximum. That's 2 seasons to get this stadium approved, funded and built. Make it happen.
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Jan 14, 2016 21:12:25 GMT
Post by thesecondjack on Jan 14, 2016 21:12:25 GMT
I'm talking from a view where I know no more then the typical fan here, and although I'm frustrated at the lack of progress that has happened over the past few months, I don't think it's because of an issue on the ST's side. I'd suggest we all sit tight until the club AGM and see what is said then. The council seem rather incompetent, the only reasoning for the application taking such a long time that I've heard from the council is that it will take a while to deal with the large number of comments... I'm sorry but I think I could sort through the comments on my own in a day or two - goodness knows I've read enough of them on the portal. It's annoying to hear nothing new to report, but I don't think in house fighting will help, so lets try and keep together!
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Jan 14, 2016 22:20:07 GMT
Post by thatloudbloke on Jan 14, 2016 22:20:07 GMT
i agre that we should wait until the AGM (yes i know its been a long time coming), then we should all know where we stand with Directors & ST, & where we are going with the planning consent.. just on a side issue wonder how long Wyre forest took to give their consent to close Glades in Kidderminster & give approval for the new swimming pool complex on the Stourport road...
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Jan 15, 2016 13:06:51 GMT
Post by althom on Jan 15, 2016 13:06:51 GMT
The new Leisure Centre in Kidderminster was validated by Wyre Forrest Council on January 19th 2015 and approved April 20th 2015! We are all wondering why Worcester City Council are taking so long to come to a decision, then the club would at least know where they stand!
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Jan 15, 2016 13:13:44 GMT
Post by Croc on Jan 15, 2016 13:13:44 GMT
I can see the council stringing this along until it's no longer financially viable. I think it's fairly clear they don't want the Football Club back, and they will do everything they can to ensure that doesn't happen. What encouragement have they ever given?? Sadly this is the crux of the matter with a Conservative run Council - sitting on it hoping it'll go away. We asked questions of Councillor Gareth Jones (who was elected in the ward where most of the Anti-Stadia cabal reside surprisingly) in the Worcester News about his u-turn on the Football Club and to get him to answer questions about his stance on the project and how there was a lot of scaremongering going on from his part. Still awaiting any response - and that was from May 2015. The cynical amongst us might hint they will delay hearing the Planning Application until they can get enough of their party on the Planning Hearing Committee to replace the sympathetic and supportive Labour members where they can flatly turn it down there and then...
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Jan 15, 2016 18:24:18 GMT
Post by stamoo on Jan 15, 2016 18:24:18 GMT
Sadly I have got to say that I too smell a rat here. I strongly suspect that, just like those liars and cheats in Westminster, they will load the dice and fix the game anyway they can to get what they want never mind due process and the will of the people. Some person or persons behind the scenes is preventing our application from getting on the agenda for political purposes to prevent it being discussed never mind being approved. We need to use every avenue open to us to bring pressure to bear. I suggest a campaign involving social media, the Worcester News if we can get them interested, and a demonstration in the City Centre one Saturday afternoon when the boys are playing away. Or what about a march from Perdiswell to the Guildhall? Or a demo outside the next Planning Committee meeting? I have a horrible feeling that if we do nothing it ain't going to get anywhere near that agenda!
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Jan 15, 2016 19:34:54 GMT
Post by Woodenose on Jan 15, 2016 19:34:54 GMT
I can see the council stringing this along until it's no longer financially viable. I think it's fairly clear they don't want the Football Club back, and they will do everything they can to ensure that doesn't happen. What encouragement have they ever given?? Sadly this is the crux of the matter with a Conservative run Council - sitting on it hoping it'll go away. We asked questions of Councillor Gareth Jones (who was elected in the ward where most of the Anti-Stadia cabal reside surprisingly) in the Worcester News about his u-turn on the Football Club and to get him to answer questions about his stance on the project and how there was a lot of scaremongering going on from his part. Still awaiting any response - and that was from May 2015. The cynical amongst us might hint they will delay hearing the Planning Application until they can get enough of their party on the Planning Hearing Committee to replace the sympathetic and supportive Labour members where they can flatly turn it down there and then... At least we have Joy Squires and her party on the side of City .We just need to get rid of the incompetent Tory Council
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Jan 16, 2016 9:36:45 GMT
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Post by Mark on Jan 16, 2016 9:36:45 GMT
I don't understand why, if the council don't want the stadium at Perdiswell, they don't just reject the application. They have the power to do this so why would they sit on it and hope it goes away?
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