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Corby
Jan 16, 2016 15:17:25 GMT
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Post by zeke on Jan 16, 2016 15:17:25 GMT
Corby wearing all purple. Very similar to City's blue. Female ref.
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Corby
Jan 16, 2016 16:05:08 GMT
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Post by zeke on Jan 16, 2016 16:05:08 GMT
Thanks for Motorhead, Niels
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Corby
Jan 16, 2016 18:06:13 GMT
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Post by thesecondjack on Jan 16, 2016 18:06:13 GMT
Lost 2-1, we didn't deserve a point.
Donnellan had a great goal, Ethan Ross fluffed the ball into his own goal.
Our number 9 from Walsall didn't have a very good debut, and Deeney was terrible, ended up being replaced by Gater who did well off the bench, as did Jamie Smith.
Dunkley started but not once before him going off injured did he receive the ball from the keeper, several times he would have his hand in the air calling and have 10 yards space easily... But never got the ball.
Most entertaining part of the match: Watching Little Hughes running about the pitch at half time (scored one in both ends)!
We really do look easy to beat, relegation is starting to look like a real worry to me.
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Post by bobafettywap on Jan 16, 2016 18:10:56 GMT
What a fiasco. From both teams. Hardly a good performance on the pitch. Why Ellis played for as long as he did is a mystery to me. And I hate to say I told you so (see 'Next 3 games....') but Gater and Smith were our (sort of) saving grace today.
Also, didn't think we were playing the right kind of football for the team we put out (or the right quality). Jordan Murphy didn't see anywhere near enough of the ball for me, and we looked confused up front with so much attacking impetus but little structure or strategy. We needed to play more centrally and overlap to the wings later than we were. Full backs weren't even making enough attacking runs (or in Tyler's case they were but weren't getting service).
The second goal was unfortunate, and Jamie Smith and Connor Gater have to be starting games. Other than that, there is little to take from this that is positive for me.
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Corby
Jan 16, 2016 18:21:59 GMT
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Post by thesecondjack on Jan 16, 2016 18:21:59 GMT
I honestly think Deeneys place in the team should be under consideration. Of about 15-16 games I've seen this season, I think he's played well in perhaps 4. He just doesn't look interested in playing... Perhaps he is annoyed that a larger club hasn't come in for him. Towards the end of last season my dad had a go at Ellis during a match and fans shot him down saying my dad had a short memory... The same fans were shouting at Deeney today at how poor he was when he came off.
At the end of the game a man stood next to me calling at Matt Gardiner that it was terrible, he's a bad manager etc... Thing I'm wondering, why not shout it to Carl too? Equal managers, right?
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Corby
Jan 16, 2016 18:42:46 GMT
Post by thatloudbloke on Jan 16, 2016 18:42:46 GMT
well I just wonder if it can get worse than today, we were not even poor, we were an absolute disgrace. Ellis should think about his future as again an awful display, yes it was me who shouted at him & I stand by those comments from then, he has done not allot this year & I think minimum he should lose the captains arm band as he does not do that job very well either. the person who was saying negative things about Matt should think he is only part of the management & should go find Matt & Carl at the end of the game & ask why not shout at just one, IMO Matt does great work with the team & he has the contacts with other clubs to get these loan players. Substitutes made a difference to how we played they showed commitment. why when we have a great winger does the goalkeeper or anyone in midfield does not supply him with the ball so he can attack down the wing he is in such an open space it amazes me why we cannot see this as a team or management. and as for little Hughes he showed more about what to do than some of our paid players, just not score in both nets, oh we do that as a team so its OK
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Corby
Jan 16, 2016 18:46:46 GMT
Post by greenman on Jan 16, 2016 18:46:46 GMT
I could not agree more, it is about time this management considered their position. When I see what the Redditch manager is doing on a far less budget I suspect, because that is where we will playing next season with many more performances like this one.
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Corby
Jan 16, 2016 18:47:07 GMT
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Post by wcfcnb82 on Jan 16, 2016 18:47:07 GMT
I honestly think Deeneys place in the team should be under consideration. Of about 15-16 games I've seen this season, I think he's played well in perhaps 4. He just doesn't look interested in playing... Perhaps he is annoyed that a larger club hasn't come in for him. Towards the end of last season my dad had a go at Ellis during a match and fans shot him down saying my dad had a short memory... The same fans were shouting at Deeney today at how poor he was when he came off. At the end of the game a man stood next to me calling at Matt Gardiner that it was terrible, he's a bad manager etc... Thing I'm wondering, why not shout it to Carl too? Equal managers, right? Absolutely equal managers! They both need to take a long hard look at this performance. Ellis was borderline disgrace today. Performance on the pitch was awful and didn't look interested then wanders off when being subbed when we're 1-0 down and heads straight down the tunnel, and that's from out captain! Poor doesn't come close. First half we had we had no shape at all, until Ellis came off them we played well for 10 minutes. I'm seriously worried about our position now, the new number 9 was shocking and hopefully won't play next game! Positives, Murphy was MOM, smith was brill when he came on, not gunna blame the keeper to much, think he had done well for us and he's a young lad, but Carl and Matt now look like the chuckle brothers at the monrnt with no clue.
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Corby
Jan 16, 2016 18:50:21 GMT
Post by bobafettywap on Jan 16, 2016 18:50:21 GMT
I honestly think Deeneys place in the team should be under consideration. Of about 15-16 games I've seen this season, I think he's played well in perhaps 4. He just doesn't look interested in playing... Perhaps he is annoyed that a larger club hasn't come in for him. Towards the end of last season my dad had a go at Ellis during a match and fans shot him down saying my dad had a short memory... The same fans were shouting at Deeney today at how poor he was when he came off. At the end of the game a man stood next to me calling at Matt Gardiner that it was terrible, he's a bad manager etc... Thing I'm wondering, why not shout it to Carl too? Equal managers, right? Absolutely equal managers! They both need to take a long hard look at this performance. Ellis was borderline disgrace today. Performance on the pitch was awful and didn't look interested then wanders off when being subbed when we're 1-0 down and heads straight down the tunnel, and that's from out captain! Poor doesn't come close. First half we had we had no shape at all, until Ellis came off them we played well for 10 minutes. I'm seriously worried about our position now, the new number 9 was shocking and hopefully won't play next game! Positives, Murphy was MOM, smith was brill when he came on, not gunna blame the keeper to much, think he had done well for us and he's a young lad, but Carl and Matt now look like the chuckle brothers at the monrnt with no clue. Pretty much bang on, except for the bit about Murphy. He looked greedy at times and a bit scrappy, but I think he did OK with the little time on the ball that he got. It's hard to pick a man of the match, but for me it is Jacko. Has been solid for a while now.
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Corby
Jan 16, 2016 19:00:05 GMT
Post by thesecondjack on Jan 16, 2016 19:00:05 GMT
I'd say Jordan was greedy, perhaps too eager to impress, but was still one of the better performers.
Man of the match? Donnellan for me. He's surely a professional first team player for a decent club in the near future.
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Corby
Jan 16, 2016 19:10:35 GMT
Post by stamoo on Jan 16, 2016 19:10:35 GMT
As against Gloucester we lost this match in the first half. Slow tempo, no urgency, no penetration. Corby didn't look much better to be fair. But there were some positives second half, I thought Gater and Smith moved the whole team up a gear or two, suddenly we had two players with pace and urgency who were running on and off the ball. I couldn't fault the defence, Sam and Tyler were particularly industrious and impressive. It's the old story of nothing up front and lack of penetration in the final third of the pitch.
Very disappointing for all, but don't some people panic?? True we need to start winning some games but there's a way to go yet and a number of people with short memories have come unstuck in recent times on this Banter Board prophesying doom and underestimating our Mangement Team. They have turned things around many times before and I for one have no doubt they will do so again.
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Post by Tim Munslow on Jan 16, 2016 19:14:16 GMT
I'd agree with the last post; but, as I've said before, football can be a very cruel game, and Ethan Ross's fumble into his own goal just seems to sum up the way things are going at the mo.
Fylde away next Saturday now looks a daunting prospect.
In Ellis's defence he's played every match this season I think and looks tired and dispirited. With his brother playing in the Premiership (or is it the championship?) you can almost see him thinking he should be playing at a higher level.
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Corby
Jan 16, 2016 19:41:37 GMT
Post by simples on Jan 16, 2016 19:41:37 GMT
Agree with previous 2 posts above. It was only the last 10 minutes that we seemed to step it up and when we threatened there would be a defender getting a block in or if the goaly was called upon he was up to the task. Remember, Weir also had a shot against the post in those final minutes - small margins as they say but why couldn't we have started playing sooner? Too often we kept possesion, knocking the ball back - giving Corby time to regroup. In recent matches Ebby N-A has been able to bring the ball up the middle with pace and keep the opposition defence on their toes. Still it cannot be easy with new faces coming in for it all to gel. Hopefully we can still turn it around but worryingly we have failed to beat 3 of the teams around us at home. On another point I found the colours of the teams difficult to pick out I wonder if the players had similar issues?
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Corby
Jan 16, 2016 20:05:19 GMT
Post by stamoo on Jan 16, 2016 20:05:19 GMT
Perhaps a historic series of posts above as no one has yet had a go at the ref! She made one or two mistakes (fewer than anyone else on the pitch!) she could perhaps have given out an extra card or two and been a bit stricter with Corby's time wasting antics, but overall I thought she did just fine and she was very very far from the worst we have seen at Aggborough.
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Corby
Jan 16, 2016 20:23:02 GMT
Post by thesecondjack on Jan 16, 2016 20:23:02 GMT
In comparrison to the ref we had for the Gloucester game, she was like Howard Webb.
She was fine, could have been more strict, but that's it. At least she wasn't too one sided.
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Corby
Jan 16, 2016 20:50:23 GMT
Post by cityforever on Jan 16, 2016 20:50:23 GMT
Ref was okay, although fell for the Corby squeals. We've seen far worse this season so hope to see her again.
Yet again we gifted the opposition 2 soft goals yet we struggle to create/score. Spoke to Lee Hughes who said his muscle injury isn't right yet - in his striking leg so needs to be 100%
It's all about opinions and Deeney was poor today, but I think he's been solid this season. I like Gater and he needs to start. When the 9 went off we looked really positive and if it were not for the post and a couple of decent saves we'd have a different message board tonight.
On another thread the management are getting stick, which is pathetic. Keep the faith!!!!
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Corby
Jan 16, 2016 21:38:02 GMT
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Post by zeke on Jan 16, 2016 21:38:02 GMT
Ethan looked devastated with the fumble, but I thought he was great today. We could have been 5 down in the first half, but for some amazing saves. His distribution though was a bit poor. For 80 minutes we were a shambles. I can see the crowds dwindling, especially as said above, when the 10 ticket punters run out of vouchers
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Corby
Jan 17, 2016 8:45:35 GMT
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Post by Mark on Jan 17, 2016 8:45:35 GMT
Yes the performance was poor and yes Ellis among others had a shocker but mostly I think he does just fine. Now is not the time to shout abuse and point fingers (although we all have an opinion). Now is the time to show support and become the twelfth man.
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Corby
Jan 17, 2016 10:02:34 GMT
Post by thatloudbloke on Jan 17, 2016 10:02:34 GMT
Yes the performance was poor and yes Ellis among others had a shocker but mostly I think he does just fine. Now is not the time to shout abuse and point fingers (although we all have an opinion). Now is the time to show support and become the twelfth man. we are making noise & being the twelfth man every game, but it becomes hard work when the players or certain ones do not show commitment, Ellis has shown little the end of last year & most of this one, yes he does have good touches but lacklustre approach & some shocking decisions & awful free kicks/corners, thought when Geddes went he would stop the silliness that was going on with the two of them with dead ball kicks but no its still the same, let someone who is going to do better take them both Danny's are good with distribution. Ellis looks tired & lots of the time not interested, seems to turn it on for cup games, is this hoping someone at higher level might offer him something... he needs to show the same week in & week out to get recognised as scouts don't watch one performance... as for Ellis walking off the pitch down the tunnel when substituted was not what we should see & especially from the captain... if we keep having games like this those who turn up & pay on the gate will go else where, & those with the ten ticket books wont repeat buy so support will go down so the twelfth man gets smaller & budget will get smaller.
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Corby
Jan 17, 2016 10:31:05 GMT
Post by worcsfan on Jan 17, 2016 10:31:05 GMT
We get rid of players with creativity when they are not in form,instead of working to try and get that form back we do the easy thing and sell.now it is coming back to bite us on the a**e. There are two many players coming and going,how do we expect the team to gel and get results?
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Corby
Jan 17, 2016 11:28:44 GMT
Post by stamoo on Jan 17, 2016 11:28:44 GMT
We get rid of players with creativity when they are not in form,instead of working to try and get that form back we do the easy thing and sell.now it is coming back to bite us on the a**e. There are two many players coming and going,how do we expect the team to gel and get results? It's a two way thing though isn't? Working with players and encouraging them to find their form is one thing (and something that I think Matt and Carl do) but in the end the player has got to put in consistent efforts over time, bide his time, and want to play for the club. In the end some of our ex-players, Sean included, didn't want to wait and play themselves back into form. At our level and at this stage of the season the main tool available to freshen things up and bolster the team is to bring in loan players. That can cause disruption but it can also give us skills and performance to,drive us up the table. Look at Jordan Murphy yesterday who worked his socks off and look how Eddy NA performed in recent weeks. One bright spot is that we also have youngsters such as Jamie Smith, Dean Waldron, Keiron Morris, and George Nash on the books. Jamie Smith looked excellent when he came on yesterday. In fact if you look at the experience and youth in the team there's not a lot wrong with the squad it's just finding the right combination. And we need to stop knocking Ellis Deeney, he is and has been excellent in recent times - everyone's entitled to a bad game, it happens to even the best players.
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Corby
Jan 17, 2016 15:22:16 GMT
Post by thatloudbloke on Jan 17, 2016 15:22:16 GMT
Worcester News: Geoff Berkeley player ratings... have added my thoughts where appropriate...
4 Ross – a day to forget for the teenager, who was at fault for both goals, including a last-gasp howler to gift Corby victory. a little harsh as defence let him down lots of the time...
7 Minihan – runs from deep helped drag his side back into the match and forced a great save from Sam Donkin late on. getting better every game
6 Sharpe – yet to find his best form since coming back from injury and noticeably tired towards the end. yes struggled at times but is an asset in the team
7 DONNELLAN – growing in stature with every game and scored a stunning goal to put City back on level terms. My man of the match. totaly agree with this
6 Weir –worked hard to get forward and hit the post with an acrobatic effort but made too many mistakes in defence. Tyler has not been his best the last couple of games but always gives 100%
6 Dunkley –the in-form winger’s afternoon was cut short when he crashed into Minihan, resulting in a dislocated shoulder. was not supplied from goalkeeper
7 Jackman – after a successful stint at left-back, he returned to midfield and looked equally assured. played well
5 Deeney – another disappointing display from the captain, who gave the ball away numerous times and was eventually taken off. rest my case
6 Murphy – showed signs of what City saw from him last season but the on-loan forward lacked an end product. needs a little time to adjust but could see signs of becoming better..
6 Burton – appears to have shaken of his knee problem as he lasted the full 90 minutes but did little during that time. a little harsh had some great ball control
5 Bakayoko – produced some neat touches early on but missed a great chance in the second half and was replaced by Jamie Smith. was disapointed in what i saw hope he improves...
Share article Subs: Nti 7 made impact when he came on (Dunkley 40), Smith 6 team showed great improvement when he came on(Bakayoko 65), Gater made a difference to what we had(Deeney 78). Not used: Gudger, Cleet.
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Corby
Jan 17, 2016 15:40:19 GMT
Post by glevumblues on Jan 17, 2016 15:40:19 GMT
It's amazing how one moment changes everything. It wasn't a good performance overall and we do have problems, particularly in putting the ball in the net. However, if the last goal hadn't gone in, would we now be talking about how we should have had three points but for some first rate saves by their keeper and praising the managers for changing things round which led to us dominating the game for the last 20 minutes or so?
Having so many loan players coming and going does disrupt the team, but to be fair, we have had some pretty decent ones, including Ethan Ross, who was desperately unlucky to do what he did at the end of a pretty solid performance. Like most of the people on this thread I felt pretty down at the end of the game, but in the cold light of day, are we overreacting?
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Corby
Jan 17, 2016 16:13:32 GMT
Post by zeke on Jan 17, 2016 16:13:32 GMT
Was he at the game? 4 for Ross? He had 4 or 5 great saves in the first half. If it wasn't the the fumble at the end he should have got an 8 in my opinion.
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Corby
Jan 17, 2016 16:45:34 GMT
Post by thesecondjack on Jan 17, 2016 16:45:34 GMT
I think a 4 for Ross wasn't fair, a 6 perhaps as his distribution wasn't great... but largely the rest of the ratings are about right.
The people around me were saying ''We didn't deserve a point'' so to say that if the own goal didn't happen, then we'd be saying how we should have won is questionable. We were on the back foot for probably 60 minutes of the game.
As for one moment changing everything - you're right. Many have agreed during the match and on here, that this was a must win game, and we had to get a couple of goals in. Neither happened. With the BPA game being postponed, we're now in for another tough few games. These are our next 5 games:
Fylde away (4th), North Ferriby home (2nd), Alfreton home (13th), Chorely away (9th) then Nuneaton away (5th) That's arguably 4 teams chasing play-offs or better, as Chorley have games in hand to those above them.
How many points do you think we'll get? I can see a result against Alfreton if we're lucky, and maybe a point or three against Chorely, again if we're lucky. It's a tough bunch of games to have, especially when the team isn't firing on all cylinders.
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Corby
Jan 17, 2016 17:41:48 GMT
Post by glevumblues on Jan 17, 2016 17:41:48 GMT
I agree we weren't at the races for the first hour, but my point was that after the changes were made, we dominated the game and should have been in front, irrespective of what happened earlier. Had we got a point (or better still, three) would anyone be saying the managers were not up to scratch? Incidentally, I fully agree that a 4 for Ethan was ridiculous. If they knocked off points for each mistake, a couple of our players would have had a negative score!
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Corby
Jan 17, 2016 18:23:21 GMT
Post by thesecondjack on Jan 17, 2016 18:23:21 GMT
I'm not saying the managers should go, the captaincy however, I think should be under review.
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Post by geoffworcester on Jan 17, 2016 18:44:47 GMT
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Corby
Jan 17, 2016 18:49:29 GMT
Post by thatloudbloke on Jan 17, 2016 18:49:29 GMT
the Captain needs to either take a more active roll on the pitch & play a decent game especially with ball delivery allot more than present or give up the arm band & let someone who wants to lead do the roll positively, & or if this happens take orders from the Captain... we need a leader on the pitch, & that is what the managers should have as their hands are a little tied whilst the game is in play, i can not remember Ellis coming over to the bench having words with management or vocally encourage or rocketing players on the pitch. the managers in my opinion do a cracking job, and I think make changes where needed through the game, my only criticism is why they have not done anything with Ellis, yes i know he has been carrying an injury but why keep playing him, leave him out & get him match fit if this will help, but as from the last few games he does not seem to want to be out there. I would give Jacko the arm band unless they can think of anyone else, or Tyler as he gives his all, Tommo would be another if he was fit & playing every game...
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Corby
Jan 17, 2016 18:56:37 GMT
Post by thatloudbloke on Jan 17, 2016 18:56:37 GMT
Geoff think your reports are great & like the interviews, but we all have an opinion on the players & yes Ethan had a bad day at the office yesterday but some of this must go down to defending at set pieces, this is a team game & IMO we are not playing as a team & there is little support for our youngsters when they are having a bad time, seems little encouragement from team members. IMO the Captain let the whole team down yesterday & has not done allot for a few weeks...
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