Lye Town away

[heathsider]

How do we move on from this poor start? New manager, change of formation...

[wcfcnb82]

Simply not good enough. We should be competing at the top end of the league, and with a bottom half finish last season and the start we have had this season then it shows he’s not doing the job he’s been asked to do. Both Vincent and Walters needs to go, get some fresh ideas in and someone who can motivate them. Im not sure of the reasoning of leaving Lockett brain and English on the bench when they are, in my opinion, 3 of the dangerous and better player we have.

[heathsider]

Oct 3, 2020 16:47:44 GMT wcfcnb82 said:

Simply not good enough. We should be competing at the top end of the league, and with a bottom half finish last season and the start we have had this season then it shows he’s not doing the job he’s been asked to do. Both Vincent and Walters needs to go, get some fresh ideas in and someone who can motivate them. Im not sure of the reasoning of leaving Lockett brain and English on the bench when they are, in my opinion, 3 of the dangerous and better player we have.

I think Brain has been left out due to not scoring, he has had chances and hasn't taken them, maybe English was dropped due to Wednesday in terms of fitness. Lockett I have no idea why he isn't starting every game, he's our most creative player. My opinion is we need wingers, we have nobody quick such as Sarmento and Tomkinson or even Baldwin who we had a couple of years ago

[leehughes]

Oct 3, 2020 16:54:16 GMT heathsider said:

Oct 3, 2020 16:47:44 GMT wcfcnb82 said:

Simply not good enough. We should be competing at the top end of the league, and with a bottom half finish last season and the start we have had this season then it shows he’s not doing the job he’s been asked to do. Both Vincent and Walters needs to go, get some fresh ideas in and someone who can motivate them. Im not sure of the reasoning of leaving Lockett brain and English on the bench when they are, in my opinion, 3 of the dangerous and better player we have.

I think Brain has been left out due to not scoring, he has had chances and hasn't taken them, maybe English was dropped due to Wednesday in terms of fitness. Lockett I have no idea why he isn't starting every game, he's our most creative player. My opinion is we need wingers, we have nobody quick such as Sarmento and Tomkinson or even Baldwin who we had a couple of years ago

[leehughes]

Oct 3, 2020 17:13:05 GMT leehughes said:

Oct 3, 2020 16:54:16 GMT heathsider said:

I think Brain has been left out due to not scoring, he has had chances and hasn't taken them, maybe English was dropped due to Wednesday in terms of fitness. Lockett I have no idea why he isn't starting every game, he's our most creative player. My opinion is we need wingers, we have nobody quick such as Sarmento and Tomkinson or even Baldwin who we had a couple of years ago

I think if we don’t get rid of this management we are f*ckedddd

[alwaysnextyear]

Last season was poor, and this has started even worse. Vincent's tactics didn't work and were ineffective last season, but he still tries to do the same. Slow, ponderous, possession all in our own half, and on the half way line. We never get the ball forward quickly after regaining possession, and never hit sides on the break. We just go sideways and backwards, letting the opposition get back behind the ball. If players could repeatedly pass their way through opponents playing this way, they wouldn't be playing at Step 9 ! It's drab, boring stuff to watch, with the results just not justifying the continued use of these tactics.

3rd bottom, 2 points out of 18, and 4 goals scored in 6 matches with 11 conceded, in a mediocre league is awful. Whilst I'm sure that he's trying his best, it simply isn't good enough, and it looks to me as though he has no appetite to change the way we play despite the awful results. Time for a change I'm afraid.

[simples]

Oct 3, 2020 20:05:25 GMT alwaysnextyear said:

Last season was poor, and this has started even worse. Vincent's tactics didn't work and were ineffective last season, but he still tries to do the same. Slow, ponderous, possession all in our own half, and on the half way line. We never get the ball forward quickly after regaining possession, and never hit sides on the break. We just go sideways and backwards, letting the opposition get back behind the ball. If players could repeatedly pass their way through opponents playing this way, they wouldn't be playing at Step 9 ! It's drab, boring stuff to watch, with the results just not justifying the continued use of these tactics.

3rd bottom, 2 points out of 18, and 4 goals scored in 6 matches with 11 conceded, in a mediocre league is awful. Whilst I'm sure that he's trying his best, it simply isn't good enough, and it looks to me as though he has no appetite to change the way we play despite the awful results. Time for a change I'm afraid.

I haven't followed City live since they dropped out of the National League North. While pleasantly surprised by the skill at this level I have to agree with others on this subject. It is never nice to criticise but the facts speak for themselves and for those who have attended the games the evidence is there. By the time we get the ball under control, taking half a dozen passes to get nowhere up the field the opposition have more than ample time to get their defense organised. We play the ball about in areas that do not hurt the opposition. By overplaying at the back there is always the risk that we will gift them a goal. I feel the players are more than capable of playing at this level, I do however feel they are lacking direction. One senses that the forwards are being criticised for not being brave enough but I cannot say we have missed many, if any, guilt edged chances. Is there another Nobby Clarke on the horizon?

[harley]

If a team only plays one way then the opposition only have to defend one way. The season will only get harder if there isn't a mix to the way we play.

[leon]

Think it is worrying that according to the WN reporter that 8 players had a rating of less than 5.
I would expect a minimum mark of 5 for effort as a given so expect a number of changes for the next game?

[mightymutley]

Living over 150 miles away and having weekend work commitments I barely get to any games these days. But something is seriously wrong within the management structure. After living in exile, this should now be a "honeymoon" period being back in the city, with a tidy brand new ground and a swell of good feeling. The team should on paper ( yes, I know footballs not played on paper) be in the top third of the league. The board need to act decisively. With the inevitable economic downturn, which should act as a leveller in terms of other teams budget, this was likely to be a great season to have a real crack at promotion. It's turning into a car crash. With raiders looking as though they are on the up, the next generation of Worcester kids may be lost to city. Time for the board to act and act decisively.

[niels]

I have said this before, at meetings, but will go on about it on here until it happens.

Worcester City needs to be managed by someone from the local area with the majority of the players from, or living in, the city, or immediate area. We need players who are proud to represent their city, not just journeymen from Birmingham, and around, who have no real affinity with the club. Four local players in the squad of a team at our level is a disgrace. We also need the players in the youth set-up to see that there is a way into the senior team, if they´re good enough, and that they may get to represent their city in the future, rather than seeing the team full of players who just happen to come from the area that the manager lives in. I have, throughout the years, been told that there are no local players good enough but I have frequently read about Worcester players playing for other teams, many who have said that they would have killed to play for their hometown club but have never been approached.

Now is the time to start implementing these changes and give us a team to be proud off. A team to call our own.

[Down The Pan]

Now we are just a local pub league side, this would make sense, local players not good enough to play a decent standard of football could play for City just as they do for Raiders, particularly if they have little to no ambition to be footballers.
Most of our youth team players won't end up playing for the first team as they have life ambitions, like going to Uni, or working elsewhere in the country. Kids have more ambition than to work where they grow up these days. So you might get a few 17/18 year olds for a year or two, but thats it.

[polishfrankp]

Sadly, I agree with the above comment that the play from the defence to the midfield and attack is so ponderous that the attack never gets past the opposition defence and this is clearly shown by the lack of goal attempts, let alone goals themselves. Vincent obviously, had no idea how to win games in this sort of league. Trying to pass the ball into the net via a slow build up from the back is catastrophic. He sooner he goes the better.

[The sound and the fury]

The fundamental problem is that we aren't savvy enough in game situations. Not streetwise enough. Too many similar players being shoehorned into positions and formations rather than dictatihg the terms to the opposition. Why not make them have to deal with us rather than trying to cope with what the oppo are doing? Midfield is all over the place, doesn't seem that anyone really knows what they are doing at any one stage, and all of a sudden the defence all seem to think it's someone else's responsibility to get the lines cleared. Poor Ewan Mountjoy must wonder what he's let himself in for, he's spending almost as much time picking the ball out the net as De Gea is! And then the other problem is that we create very few chances, shots on target is hardly any this season, goals per shot isn't bad but we're just not creating opportunities. Final thing - why did a step 3 midfield become available and want to become step 5 players? They certainly ain't looking like step 3 players at the moment! Ash needs to be brave and admit that it's not working as it stands and start picking a team to win games at this level, even if that means leaving out some of the more vaunted names.

[realtalkingfan]

We are currently a laughing stock, and this isn’t helped by the idiots who try and have digs at Worcester raiders. We currently have a poor manager and a poor team, seeing comments or ‘unlucky today it will come’ the truth of the matter is we are nowhere near good enough and I’d be more worried about Worcester raiders going up and us going down if I’m honest. What id give to get snappers band back together when a lot of you said they weren’t good enough?

[leejackson345]

Not looking good, is it.

[heathsider]

Oct 5, 2020 14:35:05 GMT realtalkingfan said:

We are currently a laughing stock, and this isn’t helped by the idiots who try and have digs at Worcester raiders. We currently have a poor manager and a poor team, seeing comments or ‘unlucky today it will come’ the truth of the matter is we are nowhere near good enough and I’d be more worried about Worcester raiders going up and us going down if I’m honest. What id give to get snappers band back together when a lot of you said they weren’t good enough?

Correct about Raiders, but we won't go down, no way. We're only 6 games in. The problem with this team is they don't work well together, individually we have a strong squad, but that's not good enough. Snapper had a good set of players which worked well together in the first season but we didn't get promoted so the majority of the squad moved on, if we'd have bounced back that first season we would probably still have Birch, Haywood, Tomkinson and maybe even Hughes.