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Post by Bonzo Bitburg on Dec 26, 2018 18:47:08 GMT
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Post by zeke on Dec 26, 2018 18:55:36 GMT
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Post by prestonwcfc on Dec 26, 2018 19:08:47 GMT
Snapes time must surely be up soon. Even on the unbeaten run we didn't play particularly well. We have some decent players but repeatedly we fail to play as a team. Even by his comments tonight we are underachieving so surely time for a change
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Post by oxford on Dec 26, 2018 19:13:46 GMT
As there are no trains today Sutton v Bromley was out.
Very nearly went to Stourport.Glad I didn't!
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Post by leejackson345 on Dec 26, 2018 20:16:49 GMT
Dreadful performance today.
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Dec 26, 2018 20:38:39 GMT
Can't disagree with any of the above. We are now 10th in a pub league of Sunday morning players - how low can we go ?
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Post by jupu on Dec 26, 2018 21:10:15 GMT
A few stats arising from today's game:
The first time we've ever been beaten by Swifts in a competitive match.
Our first defeat on Boxing Day since leaving the Lane.
Fourth game in a row that we've conceded in the last ten minutes.
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Post by stamoo on Dec 26, 2018 22:15:37 GMT
A dismal day, a poor performance by an average team beaten by average opposition in an average league. Why would you bring off Baldwin & Lennon, our only goal threats, when you are trying to win a game? The Heeley/Gardiner ethos of keeping the ball on the floor and playing a passing game of football is a distant memory. This group of players don’t seem to have the ability to do it, it’s long ball, hit and hope. No atmosphere at all in the ground, little excitement on the pitch. Was it really just three or four years ago we were playing exciting Boxing Day derbys against Gloucester and Kiddy Harriers in front of big crowds? Where are those who mismanaged the clubs over many years and brought us to this low? It’s the few fans who are left who are suffering due to their incompetence. They have left the club with a mountain to climb to survive and get anywhere near to a decent standard.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Dec 26, 2018 23:13:55 GMT
A dismal day, a poor performance by an average team beaten by average opposition in an average league. Why would you bring off Baldwin & Lennon, our only goal threats, when you are trying to win a game? The Heeley/Gardiner ethos of keeping the ball on the floor and playing a passing game of football is a distant memory. This group of players don’t seem to have the ability to do it, it’s long ball, hit and hope. No atmosphere at all in the ground, little excitement on the pitch. Was it really just three or four years ago we were playing exciting Boxing Day derbys against Gloucester and Kiddy Harriers in front of big crowds? Where are those who mismanaged the clubs over many years and brought us to this low? It’s the few fans who are left who are suffering due to their incompetence. They have left the club with a mountain to climb to survive and get anywhere near to a decent standard. No, they can't do it, if they could play the kind of passing game that Carl and Gards developed at the club......they wouldn't be at the club! Sad but true but players with that kind of ability just won't be playing for Worcester City at this lowly level any time soon. Those days are long gone. A conversation I had with my family earlier in the week summed it up, my Dad and brother were talking about City and Jordan Stoddarts name came up. I asked Dan if he remembered him at Perrywood, he did, but he was really surprised that he actually played for Worcester City !! He was at Sixth Form the same time Dan was in the football academy there, but apparently never made it further than playing for the second team! Now he might be a late developer of course, but the reality is, City play at a seriously low standard now, where anyone with decent footballing skills will be snapped up and be playing two or three levels higher. They're not even playing in the same league as the best team in Loughborough!! |
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Post by dragon on Dec 27, 2018 9:23:23 GMT
How low can this club get ? Never believed the day would come when we got stuffed by the likes of Stourport bloody Swifts. For Gawd`s sake, pull the curtain down on the increasing farce that is WCFC !
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Post by worcesterfan2018 on Dec 27, 2018 13:27:09 GMT
Unfortunately if you have pub players in your team ( and we have a few of them ) then you will get pub team mistakes!
What on earth was the defence doing on that 2nd goal?
I am now starting to question the management team on what they see in these players because apart from 2 maybe 3 they shouldn’t be at this club or even level.
Baldwin, Stoddart, Evans, caines, Harrison, Smith and Whittington should not be at this club, simply not good enough or bright enough to play at this level!
The management should take a good hard look at themselves and ask themselves “ can we make this team play any better and do we even know how to recruit players at this level? “
We have a scout so I hear, well what the fxxk is he doing? Who is he even watching to get better players in? Does he actually watch any players? I’d love to ask that to the management team as well!
Something needs to drastically change on the playing side of the club otherwise our season is done!
I say make that change now!!!!!
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Post by stgeorge on Dec 27, 2018 16:54:44 GMT
A dismal day, a poor performance by an average team beaten by average opposition in an average league. Why would you bring off Baldwin & Lennon, our only goal threats, when you are trying to win a game? The Heeley/Gardiner ethos of keeping the ball on the floor and playing a passing game of football is a distant memory. This group of players don’t seem to have the ability to do it, it’s long ball, hit and hope. No atmosphere at all in the ground, little excitement on the pitch. Was it really just three or four years ago we were playing exciting Boxing Day derbys against Gloucester and Kiddy Harriers in front of big crowds? Where are those who mismanaged the clubs over many years and brought us to this low? It’s the few fans who are left who are suffering due to their incompetence. They have left the club with a mountain to climb to survive and get anywhere near to a decent standard. No, they can't do it, if they could play the kind of passing game that Carl and Gards developed at the club......they wouldn't be at the club! Sad but true but players with that kind of ability just won't be playing for Worcester City at this lowly level any time soon. Those days are long gone. A conversation I had with my family earlier in the week summed it up, my Dad and brother were talking about City and Jordan Stoddarts name came up. I asked Dan if he remembered him at Perrywood, he did, but he was really surprised that he actually played for Worcester City !! He was at Sixth Form the same time Dan was in the football academy there, but apparently never made it further than playing for the second team! Now he might be a late developer of course, but the reality is, City play at a seriously low standard now, where anyone with decent footballing skills will be snapped up and be playing two or three levels higher. They're not even playing in the same league as the best team in Loughborough!! But it’s all relative. We’re not expecting to put out a side that could go toe to toe with Solihull Moors or Kiddy anymore. What we’re expecting is be able to beat Stourport, Desborough and Loughborough etc who aren’t very good, can’t defend and get by on crowds of 50 fans. You don’t need National North quality players to do that, but you need a lot more than a lot of the current squad are offering. Ultimately the buck stops with Snape because he signed them and asks them how to play. Could things really get any worse if he was sacked? |
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Post by jimbo on Dec 27, 2018 17:58:36 GMT
It was great to be at Edgar Street to watch Kidderminster lose on Boxing Day !!
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Dec 27, 2018 21:41:57 GMT
No, they can't do it, if they could play the kind of passing game that Carl and Gards developed at the club......they wouldn't be at the club! Sad but true but players with that kind of ability just won't be playing for Worcester City at this lowly level any time soon. Those days are long gone. A conversation I had with my family earlier in the week summed it up, my Dad and brother were talking about City and Jordan Stoddarts name came up. I asked Dan if he remembered him at Perrywood, he did, but he was really surprised that he actually played for Worcester City !! He was at Sixth Form the same time Dan was in the football academy there, but apparently never made it further than playing for the second team! Now he might be a late developer of course, but the reality is, City play at a seriously low standard now, where anyone with decent footballing skills will be snapped up and be playing two or three levels higher. They're not even playing in the same league as the best team in Loughborough!! But it’s all relative. We’re not expecting to put out a side that could go toe to toe with Solihull Moors or Kiddy anymore. What we’re expecting is be able to beat Stourport, Desborough and Loughborough etc who aren’t very good, can’t defend and get by on crowds of 50 fans. You don’t need National North quality players to do that, but you need a lot more than a lot of the current squad are offering. Ultimately the buck stops with Snape because he signed them and asks them how to play. Could things really get any worse if he was sacked? What gives us the right to beat any of those teams? We are in the same league, or the same level, and picking from the same pool of available players. City are, this season, just another team in the Midland Football League. Hopefully, if we can stay in this league for a couple of years, we can rebuild again, possibly in Worcester, which would make playing for City more of an appeal. But it's going to be a long slog. |
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Post by stgeorge on Dec 27, 2018 22:53:28 GMT
You would think City would be able to attract players to beat most teams in this league. The management have failed to do this. I don’t believe we should ever accept losing to 10 man Stourport Swifts and if we do, we may as well pack it all in
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Dec 27, 2018 22:58:02 GMT
You would think City would be able to attract players to beat most teams in this league. The management have failed to do this. I don’t believe we should ever accept losing to 10 man Stourport Swifts and if we do, we may as well pack it all in Why? Where's the attraction? |
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Post by worcesterfan2018 on Dec 27, 2018 23:22:23 GMT
THE BADGE ON THEIR CHEST!!!!!!
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Dec 27, 2018 23:39:22 GMT
THE BADGE ON THEIR CHEST!!!!!! Why would the Worcester City badge attract players? |
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Post by Fred on Dec 28, 2018 1:28:11 GMT
When you have teams in this league, probably 8 that have better budgets or similar then money talks not a badge.
The days of players doing it for that have gone.
Jeremy is correct, until the Club returns to the City then the best we can hope for is getting the best we can on the budgets set and pushing as much as possible.
The Board could throw money at it, sign the very best players at this level and we could go up.....then what ?
Another Chunk of money gone and even less to put towards a new ground.
On Stourport, another bad day at office, goal chalked off for no reason And two poorly defended goals at other end.
But people should really have expected a hard game yesterday, just because we are Worcester City does not give us a divine right to beat teams...they've beaten Khalsa twice this season so they are not mugs
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Post by Bonzo Bitburg on Dec 28, 2018 5:03:59 GMT
So that's it, no ones fault, it's just the way it is. Suck it up, shut up and pay your £8.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Dec 28, 2018 8:09:25 GMT
Oh we know whose fault it is, but even if we hauled them all up against a wall and stoned them, we'd still be a mid table Midland Football League team.
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Post by worcesterfan2018 on Dec 28, 2018 14:06:56 GMT
THE BADGE ON THEIR CHEST!!!!!! Why would the Worcester City badge attract players? I was being ironic! |
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Post by zeke on Dec 28, 2018 14:28:57 GMT
More worried about the rest of the season, possibly losing 100 attendance each game.
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Post by worcesterfan2018 on Dec 28, 2018 14:37:20 GMT
I’m not gonna attend as many games now tbh
Not unless the management team changes
Just can’t see any way back for this group
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Dec 28, 2018 15:42:27 GMT
Why would the Worcester City badge attract players? I was being ironic! There was a time when that badge (and a decent wage) brought players out of league football to Worcester City. |
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Post by Bonzo Bitburg on Dec 28, 2018 15:59:55 GMT
The away games can take a hike now. I'm not burning petrol money to watch that rubbish. I can't believe we haven't got a competitive player budget and I do expect more than this. I didn't expect us to win the league but I did expect us to beat Stourport Swifts when they had 10 men for 40 minutes. It was the nature of the defeat as well. Soul destroying. I don't think my expectations are particularly unrealistic
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Post by Woodenose on Dec 28, 2018 16:54:46 GMT
I haven't given up yet, I am one of positive supporters
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Post by highbury on Dec 28, 2018 17:54:24 GMT
From last season, we've lost quality players such as Birch, Hayward, Tomkinson, Hughes, Weir - a team that probably should have got promoted. The replacements this year have been much weaker but hopefully on a lesser budget. Even during the unbeaten run (apart from the Ilkeston home match) we looked distinctly average and I predicted top 8 at best. Since that run ended the performances have fallen off a cliff. I agree we can't expect to win the league but we should expect more than we are getting. I just couldn't see what we were trying to do against the 10 men at Stourport. There was no width and no pressure. How the hell can going down to 10 men be in the favour of Stourport as the manager claims - it defies maths?!
I shall continue to attend as there are a lot of good people putting in a lot of effort at the club and deserve our support but by God the team is testing that resolve - If I can survive the freezing miserable game against Wolverhampton SC I think I can survive anything!
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Post by dragon on Dec 28, 2018 19:03:14 GMT
As a minor shareholder, I fail to see the purpose of trying to maintain a Worcester City FC fielding a team of alehouse level players miles beyond our City limits.
It seems from afar that increasingly, the childishly titled Worcester Raiders are vying for publicity rights locally and have certainly got their albeit modest ground plans very well advanced without all the drama that surrounds everything their City counterparts attempt.
Indeed, I`m surprised that the Raiders (sounds like a Western movie ) haven`t, by now, adopted a more serious sounding title and challenged the sorry Bromsgrove version of WCFC for outright Worcester football bragging rights !
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Dec 28, 2018 19:34:18 GMT
From last season, we've lost quality players such as Birch, Hayward, Tomkinson, Hughes, Weir - a team that probably should have got promoted. The replacements this year have been much weaker but hopefully on a lesser budget. Even during the unbeaten run (apart from the Ilkeston home match) we looked distinctly average and I predicted top 8 at best. Since that run ended the performances have fallen off a cliff. I agree we can't expect to win the league but we should expect more than we are getting. I just couldn't see what we were trying to do against the 10 men at Stourport. There was no width and no pressure. How the hell can going down to 10 men be in the favour of Stourport as the manager claims - it defies maths?! I shall continue to attend as there are a lot of good people putting in a lot of effort at the club and deserve our support but by God the team is testing that resolve - If I can survive the freezing miserable game against Wolverhampton SC I think I can survive anything! I'm sorry but its just bonkers for any manager to say that going down to 10 men ever favours a side. If you can't figure out how and where to utilize a one man advantage on a football pitch, or any other sporting arena for that matter, you're struggling in your job as a manager. As Highbury says..do the maths! There's always a spare man somewhere! |
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