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Post by zeke on Nov 24, 2018 15:36:10 GMT
34 mins 4-0 down. Depressing and embarrassing
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Post by zeke on Nov 24, 2018 15:47:56 GMT
5-0. When it gets to 10 p, I'm off.
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Post by zeke on Nov 24, 2018 15:49:18 GMT
Keeper's been subbed. Probably has a bad back from picking the ball out of the net?
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Post by ac on Nov 24, 2018 15:53:35 GMT
He's been sent off you mean.
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Post by zeke on Nov 24, 2018 15:55:14 GMT
Yeah. Meant to say off. Cold fingers and depression. š
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Post by zeke on Nov 24, 2018 16:08:03 GMT
6-0 the gates are open for people to leave.
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Post by Mark on Nov 24, 2018 16:39:19 GMT
Canāt see me going to another game for a good while Iām sorry to say
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Post by genghis on Nov 24, 2018 17:00:10 GMT
I nearly went today. I feel sorry anyone who stood in the cold for that.
The twitter updates were a depressing read.
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stamoo
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Post by stamoo on Nov 24, 2018 17:17:15 GMT
Truly the worst performance I have seen from ANY team never mind one wearing the blue and white stripes of Worcester City. To call it schoolboy defending would be an insult to schoolboy footballers everywhere. Passing was atrocious and again far too many overambitious long balls which give away possession. Why oh why take Baldwin off again? He was the only one, just like last week, who was able penetrate the opposition defence. Truly terrible performance. Shocking in the true sense of the word. From āThe Ricohā to this!
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steves
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Post by steves on Nov 24, 2018 17:30:04 GMT
Iām very proud to be a city fan today. To think Manchester City came to the Victoria and played lowly Worcester. Yes, they passed the ball with consummate ease, they rang rings around us through out match and put a few past us.
But the lads hung in there, and they got a consultation goal at the end, what a day to be City fan.
What would you expect when youāre playing a side nine levels higher?
I mean, if we were playing someone s*** like say, Westfields, that would have been the worst performance Iād ever seen by a Worcester side in 32 years. To quote my four year old, āMaybe we should change to the purple ones?ā. Yes, maybe we should.
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Post by jupu on Nov 24, 2018 18:15:30 GMT
Good news everybody, it's not our worst ever home defeat. On 7 November 1903 we were beaten 7-2 at home by Coventry City - this was their first team, in the days when they played in the Birmingham League.
We also lost 6-0 at home to Watford - again their first team - in the FA Cup in January 1906.
In 1985 we lost 8-0 at home in a friendly match against Arsenal.
But that would be avoiding the fact that today was appalling.
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Post by prestonwcfc on Nov 24, 2018 19:14:11 GMT
So only our worst home defeat in a competitive game for over 100 years then . Julian were we actually Worcester city in those first two or Berwick rangers ?
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Post by thatloudbloke on Nov 24, 2018 19:19:24 GMT
Truly the worst performance I have seen from ANY team never mind one wearing the blue and white stripes of Worcester City. To call it schoolboy defending would be an insult to schoolboy footballers everywhere. Passing was atrocious and again far too many overambitious long balls which give away possession. Why oh why take Baldwin off again? He was the only one, just like last week, who was able penetrate the opposition defence. Truly terrible performance. Shocking in the true sense of the word. From āThe Ricohā to this! totaly agree, cannot work out what Baldwin has to do, best player last week & subbed off, again playing well & subbed off. why did we not take off players who were not doing any good at all, the sending of was a joke, what a stupid thing for him to do... some positives were we drew second half, Renno is back & did O. , Balders was playing well, Birch did well when he came on & Kyon was in my oppinion the best on the pitch, we had two great assists for them. we had no defence & little midfield, so we hae a rest day next Saturday so the management & coaches need to do some work to get this time to sort out the team & work out how were going to get back to winning, & sort out corners because they were again crap, no idea on changing where the ball goes either near post or shor that goes nowhere, & some players need to think what they want to do for the rest of the season, play like they want to wear the badge or go & play somwhere else, we let players go like Bates & he scores again today, we did not give him a chance & he wanted to play for us...
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Post by worcesterfan2018 on Nov 24, 2018 19:54:43 GMT
1st things first Iām not going to start arguing with people on here
2. Baldwin was terrible today! None of his crosses found his man and nor do they 8 times out of 10! In majority of games! Dan in goal wow complete headloss and Stoddart had a complete mare! What was he doing in the game and his a captain!!!!
This group is simply not good enough and vastly too young to compete in this league.
If players like a James Baldwin who is lucky to even be at the club after completely disrespecting the club, players, fans and management by playing in the local beer league ie pub league on the Sunday morning before we had the important fa vase game, it just shows how far down the league when a I Sunday league player gets in the side. Kyonn, Bates are not good enough at the level and clearly the manager doesnāt rate them either.
I donāt know about the playing budgets in the league but Iāve heard off fans that we simply canāt match what players are paid by other clubs in this league.
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Post by wcfc1992 on Nov 24, 2018 20:04:41 GMT
Baldwin and Evans are both good players for this standard so I donāt know what else you expect! Bates fair enough he didnāt really do it when he had the opportunity. But Baldwin has been great this season and Evans hasnāt really had a fair crack yet.
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Post by worcesterfan2018 on Nov 24, 2018 20:13:27 GMT
O there actually not! Look at what they actually do with the ball on their final product, rarely does Baldwin ever do anything than give it away nor does he ever help the team in defending! As for Evans he just doesnāt give or offer the team anything
Tho a good goal today
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Post by wcfc1992 on Nov 24, 2018 20:15:06 GMT
Baldwin set up the equaliser Tuesday night and I havenāt seen you mention that! Weāll have to agree to disagree
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Post by worcesterfan2018 on Nov 24, 2018 20:20:55 GMT
Yeh because although he got past his man countless times only once did he find his man I rest my case!
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Post by wcfc1992 on Nov 24, 2018 20:23:13 GMT
You must be right and everyone else wrong then! Sorry
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Fred
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Post by Fred on Nov 24, 2018 20:23:34 GMT
Simple really...Not at races today.
Baldwin - does good stuff taking on his man but his end product is awful 90%, of time and lazy tracking back.
Missed Smith and English today.
Stoddart looked like he hitched a Westfields trailer on the back of him for the day.
Reynolds worked his usual hard work in chasing and apart from the goal, his shot tipped over was our best chance of scoring.
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Post by worcesterfan2018 on Nov 24, 2018 20:26:10 GMT
You must be right and everyone else wrong then! Sorry No just donāt jump on the band wagon He shouldnāt even be at the club for how he disrespected the club!
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Fred
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Post by Fred on Nov 24, 2018 20:27:53 GMT
Sorry, thought Birch was highlight when he came on, got on the ball, drove at Westfields, dropped off to receive ball and looked confident
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Post by bj on Nov 24, 2018 20:32:14 GMT
Iām surprised that nobody has criticised the management. Even when Westfields were 4 or 5 up their management were still shouting instructions. Ours were stood in silence the whole game. Other teams in this league who get gates 80% lower than us appear to attract players who are quicker, more determined, fitter and play with a passion. Our management donāt appear to have the ability to attract these players regardless of budget.
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Post by jupu on Nov 24, 2018 20:32:46 GMT
Baldwin is a decent player for this level but he showed both his teammates and the supporters massive disrespect by playing on the morning of the Desborough game.
It's unfair to single players out - it's stating the obviously that nobody in a Worcester City shirt came out of today's game with any credit.
These are basically Sunday league players who also play on a Saturday and can occasionally play some decent football. We shouldn't expect too much of them but surely they are better than 6-1 losers?
It's easy to dismiss today as a bad day at the office, but is it as simple as that? I made the comment here recently that if the focus is on regrouping, learning lessons and moving on after a defeat then there's not much evidence of this. Today's result only underlines my point.
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Post by worcesterfan2018 on Nov 24, 2018 20:33:20 GMT
I think everyone needs to take a long hard look at themselves both players and management
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Post by prestonwcfc on Nov 24, 2018 21:07:01 GMT
As I've said before we have some decent players at this level who unfortunately rarely play as a unit unlike many other teams with I would argue lesser players. This was the same last season when we had a bigger budget. For me this sits with the management team , who I am afraid have repeatedly failed to deliver over the past 3 seasons. Even in our unbeaten run we only really impressed at Dunkirk and home to ilkeston. We were lucky Tuesday, all it did was hide the flaws that were exposed today.
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Nov 24, 2018 21:25:02 GMT
Today was the first time in nearly 50 years watching the City, that I've left early. Shambolic is being generous. ( jupu - have we ever been 5-0 down at half time ? ). The first half was a disgrace. Misplaced passes, a total lack of cohesion, Keystone Cops defending, a keeper who takes it out on the ref, gift wrapped goals given away, and yet again a formation which just gifts the ball to the opposition.
Having commented for weeks how 4-2-3-1 just limits our forward play, with ponderous passing, we go and do it yet again. Birley starting at right back next to Stoddart ( who must have had his worst ever game for the City ) just cried out to be attacked, due to their total lack of pace. We get to 2-0 down and Birley swops with Caines. The midfield was all over the place, as was the formation going forward, with no one making any movement, and players receiving the ball standing still with their back to goal. Starting out from the back and rolling the ball to Stoddart and Forsyth just invites a tackle when the next 15 yard pass is made. It's a tactic going nowhere. The 4 forward players are miles away from each other, so even if they get it, there's no one to pass to. The tactics have invited trouble for weeks, and today it arrived.
Baldwin was our best player in the first half ( somehow taken off ), whilst Lockett was our best midfield player on the ball ( seeing as we keep wasting Forsyth at the back ), yet we just don't get the ball to them often enough.
Westfields must have thought Xmas had arrived early.
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Post by genghis on Nov 24, 2018 21:45:51 GMT
You must be right and everyone else wrong then! Sorry No just donāt jump on the band wagon He shouldnāt even be at the club for how he disrespected the club! Weāre not really in the position to be taking the moral high ground and cutting ties with one of the few quality players we have. Truth be told, weāre not really much better than a Sunday league team ourselves. How much dedication is it reasonable to expect from the players?
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Post by rushwickdon on Nov 25, 2018 8:51:21 GMT
Brilliant opening line from worcesterfan2018, ā1st things first Iām not going to start arguing with people on hereā, followed by arguing with people on here.....š
DTL returns?
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Post by jupu on Nov 25, 2018 9:02:48 GMT
A bit more digging and I've discovered that on 21 September 1946 City lost 1-6 at home to Gillingham. In February 1946 we lost 2-6 at home to Barry. These were both Southern League matches.
Meanwhile on 1 November 1941 we lost 8-1 at home to Aston Villa in a Birmingham League match. The status of wartime games is hard to gauge - many statisticians and historians regard them as "unofficial."
There were three occasions in the 80s when we let in a lot of goals in friendly games - 1-6 v Wolves for Kevin Tudor's benefit game in 1983, 4-6 for a similar game v Aston Villa for Malcolm Phelps's benefit in 1984, and 0-8 against a strong Arsenal reserve team in a friendly in 1985.
So, what we can say is that yesterday's result was our worst home defeat in a competitive match since 1946.
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