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Post by Tim Munslow on Sept 23, 2017 15:55:28 GMT
Bugger: Boldmere have just equalised in the 88th minute, and - if memory serves me right - there are no replays in the Vase, just extra-time in the first game! However, if the Evening News is to be believed there's no penalties at the end of extra-time.
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Post by Tim Munslow on Sept 23, 2017 16:03:01 GMT
And, the Mikes, with their tails up after their late equaliser, take the lead 3-2 within a minute of the re-start!
This will now be a severe test of character for City.
Now Reynolds equalises: it's 3-3.
Checked the rules of the competition and it's only penalties at the end of the first game if both clubs agree: and why would the club drawn away do that?
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Post by Tim Munslow on Sept 23, 2017 16:21:27 GMT
And now this topsy-turvy game is turned on its head again: 4-3 to City via Lee Hughes on 109 minutes!
That's how it finished. Onwards to the next round.
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Post by The Verner on Sept 23, 2017 17:43:42 GMT
And, the Mikes, with their tails up after their late equaliser, take the lead 3-2 within a minute of the re-start! This will now be a severe test of character for City. Now Reynolds equalises: it's 3-3. Checked the rules of the competition and it's only penalties at the end of the first game if both clubs agree: and why would the club drawn away do that? We didnt agree that Tim. Replay would have been Tuesday night
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Post by thesecondjack on Sept 23, 2017 18:19:23 GMT
Good game for the neutral that!
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Post by bj on Sept 23, 2017 18:49:41 GMT
By the sounds of it we need some experience at the back. Where's Shab?
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Post by The sound and the fury on Sept 23, 2017 19:09:33 GMT
And that, ladies and gentlemen, was a masterclass in how to very nearly fcuk up what should have been a straightforward enough passage. Take a bow John Snape, got that spectacularly wrong. Unless Sarmento was injured, which he certainly didn't appear to be, right at the time when he is causing so much havoc and has pulled their midfield across to cover automatically, leaving a 30 yard gap in midfield for us to exploit. Instead of stretching it we bring Hughes on, whose legs have gone this season and who couldn't take anything off the top. All that substitution served to do was overwork Reyno and Danks and give Boldmere renewed hope. Completely buggered the dynamic of the game and surrendered all the momentum in one master stroke. Even if Sarmento was injured, Baldwin was the option. Yes Hughes scored the winner but it was like playing with ten men, he needs to hang 'em up now, this is a season too far.
Really lucky to even still be in the hat, let alone through. Needed some seriously big performances from Hayward, Alexandru and Mark Smith and never-ending running from Reyno to see us through. Wembley? Lucky to get to Weobley on this showing.
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Post by thesecondjack on Sept 23, 2017 19:24:48 GMT
Take a bow John Snape, got that spectacularly wrong. Unless Sarmento was injured, which he certainly didn't appear to be, right at the time when he is causing so much havoc and has pulled their midfield across to cover automatically, leaving a 30 yard gap in midfield for us to exploit. All that substitution served to do was overwork Reyno and Danks and give Boldmere renewed hope. Completely buggered the dynamic of the game and surrendered all the momentum in one master stroke. Even if Sarmento was injured, Baldwin was the option. Yes Hughes scored the winner but it was like playing with ten men, he needs to hang 'em up now, this is a season too far. Sarmento was injured. He said post match that he felt it before the game. I thought Hughes looked alright off the bench, but yes, we did have a gap when Sarmento went off - I guess that's the problem of subbing a winger off and replacing him with a Striker. Remember Hughes now has 2 in 2 since his injury, both off the bench.
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Post by The Verner on Sept 23, 2017 19:35:59 GMT
And that, ladies and gentlemen, was a masterclass in how to very nearly fcuk up what should have been a straightforward enough passage. Take a bow John Snape, got that spectacularly wrong. Unless Sarmento was injured, which he certainly didn't appear to be, right at the time when he is causing so much havoc and has pulled their midfield across to cover automatically, leaving a 30 yard gap in midfield for us to exploit. Instead of stretching it we bring Hughes on, whose legs have gone this season and who couldn't take anything off the top. All that substitution served to do was overwork Reyno and Danks and give Boldmere renewed hope. Completely buggered the dynamic of the game and surrendered all the momentum in one master stroke. Even if Sarmento was injured, Baldwin was the option. Yes Hughes scored the winner but it was like playing with ten men, he needs to hang 'em up now, this is a season too far. Really lucky to even still be in the hat, let alone through. Needed some seriously big performances from Hayward, Alexandru and Mark Smith and never-ending running from Reyno to see us through. Wembley? Lucky to get to Weobley on this showing. Cant blame Snapper for that...he wasnt at the game today ! And all 3 subs made were due to injury
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Post by The sound and the fury on Sept 23, 2017 19:57:53 GMT
Hughes brought himself on then turned that out?! He's worse than Snape in that case! Preecesque management. Andy not Kevin.
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Post by jupu on Sept 23, 2017 20:12:38 GMT
Why wasn't Snapper there? I do agree that bringing Hughes on pretty much changed the whole shape of the game - for the worse. We got out of jail and Boldmere will feel really unfortunate to have lost that one.
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Post by The Verner on Sept 23, 2017 21:02:19 GMT
Hughes brought himself on then turned that out?! He's worse than Snape in that case! Preecesque management. Andy not Kevin. Now theres a scary thought !
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Post by stgeorge on Sept 24, 2017 8:17:37 GMT
Our management really don't have a clue. And that is why we won't be getting anywhere near Wembley and won't win the league. The defence needs a complete overhaul
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Post by genghis on Sept 24, 2017 14:04:23 GMT
Our management really don't have a clue. And that is why we won't be getting anywhere near Wembley and won't win the league. The defence needs a complete overhaul Completely agree. In every game this season the defence has consistently been the weakest part of the team. Terrible marking and sloppy tackling galore. The quality difference between attack and defence are literally divisions apart.
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Post by Tim Munslow on Sept 24, 2017 15:02:25 GMT
John Snape was at a wedding.
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Post by Woodenose on Sept 24, 2017 16:11:31 GMT
Our management really don't have a clue. And that is why we won't be getting anywhere near Wembley and won't win the league. The defence needs a complete overhaul Completely agree. In every game this season the defence has consistently been the weakest part of the team. Terrible marking and sloppy tackling galore. The quality difference between attack and defence are literally divisions apart. What even the games where we didn't concede.Yes the team were not so good ,but we won playing badly on a plastic pitcth, that that was new to quite a few players.The team are in the next round, so let's be posative.
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Post by maybe1day on Sept 24, 2017 17:03:50 GMT
Why wasn't Snapper there? I do agree that bringing Hughes on pretty much changed the whole shape of the game - for the worse. We got out of jail and Boldmere will feel really unfortunate to have lost that one. He was having a cup of tea with Heeley!
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Post by maybe1day on Sept 24, 2017 17:06:36 GMT
Our management really don't have a clue. And that is why we won't be getting anywhere near Wembley and won't win the league. The defence needs a complete overhaul Never thought these 2 should have been in charge, a pair of inadequate team one of the reasons I will never follow City again with these clowns in charge....
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Post by genghis on Sept 24, 2017 18:43:52 GMT
Completely agree. In every game this season the defence has consistently been the weakest part of the team. Terrible marking and sloppy tackling galore. The quality difference between attack and defence are literally divisions apart. What even the games where we didn't concede.Yes the team were not so good ,but we won playing badly on a plastic pitcth, that that was new to quite a few players.The team are in the next round, so let's be posative. The only exception I can think of is the Quorn game. Would you disagree with the notion that defence is the weakest part of City's game? Not having a dig (I have missed a few games this season) but I don't know how anyone can not blame poor defending for the team's performance. Poor management, maybe, but on-pitch it's clearly the defence letting us down.
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Post by genghis on Sept 24, 2017 18:48:20 GMT
Our management really don't have a clue. And that is why we won't be getting anywhere near Wembley and won't win the league. The defence needs a complete overhaul Never thought these 2 should have been in charge, a pair of inadequate team one of the reasons I will never follow City again with these clowns in charge.... I've made jokes about John Snape in the past, but being 100% serious, neither him or Hughes are the ones who will turn City around. It's not negativity for the sake of it, but accepting anything less than complete domination is unacceptable at the level City are playing at now. No other fan base would accept it, so neither should we.
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Post by thesecondjack on Sept 24, 2017 18:59:19 GMT
Sounding like Halifax fans last season - wanting to "piss this tinpot league"
You have to beat what is put in front of you. We are third in the league for goodness sakes!
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Post by oxford on Sept 24, 2017 19:06:08 GMT
I take it,from the above comment,that you are aware of how our budget compares with other sides in the league?I have no idea but,if we are spending lots more than most/all of our competitors I accept your argument,to a degree. If we aren't then past history counts for nothing and we have no god given right to be up there.By the way don't hold your breath whilst waiting for some of the fan base to not accept something.
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Post by genghis on Sept 24, 2017 19:34:18 GMT
You're just coming at it from a different perspective to me. The point you're making is valid, but you're not going to represent the whole fan base anymore than I am. Many have given up on the club altogether, and I don't believe that coming in with any other mentality than 'we need to return to our previous stature' will convince them to return. My viewpoint may seem too demanding and even improbable, but I just can't bring myself to accept anything less. Sounding like Halifax fans last season - wanting to "piss this tinpot league" You have to beat what is put in front of you. We are third in the league for goodness sakes! When you get used to watching your club play st a certain level, then suddenly you are watching them play 3 divisions lower, I would believe that to an acceptable train of thought.
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Post by thesecondjack on Sept 24, 2017 20:02:53 GMT
I too was used to the level we were at - I've been a City fan since I was *this* high and been to countless games.
Surely we should be able to accept that the club isn't at the same level anymore, and the quality isn't going to be quite as good.
There are good points throughout the team for me.
In goal I rather enjoy Gwynne - he rushes out well and talks to his defence... I felt we missed that last season. In defence I really rate Albert - he's got a good header on him, and whenever he makes an error, tries his hardest to rectify. In Midfield Birch and Hayward look far better than this level. Up front we have got genuine goal threats in Danks, Reynolds and Sarmento. When was the last time we had 3 players all looking capable of grabbing 20 goals a season?
I think yesterday was just the third time we conceded more than 1 goal in a game (Cov United, Long Eaton and Chasetown replay being the other three)... one game we had a threadbare squad due to injury/suspension, another was against higher level opposition. I thought the City defence was decent against Daventry, Lye, Quorn, Heanor and Wulfrunians.
It's refreshing that speaking to Albert after the game, he was annoyed to concede 3, rather than happy to have won the game.
Anyway, onto Shepshed, they've got two players on 7 goals each so far this season, so expect the defence to be tested.
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Post by jupu on Sept 24, 2017 20:14:48 GMT
I haven't watched every game this season, but Daventry, Heanor, Lye, Quorn all had decent goalscoring opportunities, but were let down by poor finishing. It seems to me that the management are looking to bulk up on offensive players so that even if we do concede goals, we're likely to score more - shades of Newcastle under Keegan!
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Post by oxford on Sept 24, 2017 20:37:04 GMT
I can't accept the fact that we are at the level we are because of the way it came about. If we had been relegated purely through results you can bet your bottom dollar that I would have been there for more or less every game,work notwithstanding,the same as for more years than I care to remember. I would not come back now,whilst the current regime and constitution remain,if we were top of the Premiership.
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Post by cloud on Sept 25, 2017 8:47:58 GMT
I take it,from the above comment,that you are aware of how our budget compares with other sides in the league?I have no idea but,if we are spending lots more than most/all of our competitors I accept your argument,to a degree. If we aren't then past history counts for nothing and we have no god given right to be up there.By the way don't hold your breath whilst waiting for some of the fan base to not accept something. All I know is that Haughmond don't pay their players anything. They were interviewed on the BBC last week. Us being so attack minded means the opposition will get chances. Even the 8-0 Quorn game should have probably finished 12-4. Time to give Shab a run, if he's fit.
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Post by wcfcnb82 on Sept 25, 2017 12:16:02 GMT
City drawn at home to Sherwood Colliery in the FA base 1st round
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Post by Woodenose on Sept 25, 2017 13:12:27 GMT
It seems that you can't please everyone all the time on this banter board
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Post by Noboddy aka Lord Ealing on Sept 25, 2017 14:24:15 GMT
Oxford is right. Results; league positions; squad members - that's all irrelevant. The bottom line is that our club has been Shanghai'd by a corrupt gang who don't care a **** about anything except drawing what's left of the SGL sale into their pockets. There won't be a real WCFC until this one dies. A few wins - in fact a whole season of wins - won't solve the situation.
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