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Post by timeistight1 on Sept 21, 2017 4:41:12 GMT
Greetings, Spending time on this forum leads me to believe that you all have some interest in the good of Worcester City FC – as do I (albeit from afar). Anyway, just wanted to share a few things; I recently contacted a stadium construction company and was quoted a price for a 500 seat stand, it was £125,000 + VAT. Definitely cheaper than I imagined. A total spend for a modest stadium (including clubhouse, changing rooms & toilets as portable buildings, floodlights, hard standing area around the pitch, football goals etc) runs to just under £400,000. Secondly I have created an artist’s impression of what such a stand might look like if City were to make it home. Wishful thinking!? I hope not. Up the City Attachments:
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Post by bj on Sept 21, 2017 8:48:28 GMT
A very fertile imagination I must say! On the subject of stands, I remember at both The Moors and Nuneaton (I think) that they had 'temporary' stands erected which were similar to those you see at big golf tournaments (basically scaffolding). Do 'the rules' state that the stand has to be permanent?
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Sept 21, 2017 9:18:34 GMT
Wishful thinking I fear. As I suspect that the most the football club has left in the bank is about 250k at the end of last season, and an outdated constitution that encourages minimal investment up to a maximum of 3k, we'll be needing a far cheaper version.
Perhaps Anthony Hampson will reveal all at the next AGM ?
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Post by The Verner on Sept 21, 2017 10:13:55 GMT
Greetings, Spending time on this forum leads me to believe that you all have some interest in the good of Worcester City FC – as do I (albeit from afar). Anyway, just wanted to share a few things; I recently contacted a stadium construction company and was quoted a price for a 500 seat stand, it was £125,000 + VAT. Definitely cheaper than I imagined. A total spend for a modest stadium (including clubhouse, changing rooms & toilets as portable buildings, floodlights, hard standing area around the pitch, football goals etc) runs to just under £400,000. Secondly I have created an artist’s impression of what such a stand might look like if City were to make it home. Wishful thinking!? I hope not. Up the City Sounds like the prices of Stadium Solutions who have carried out a huge number of works for football clubs in the UK, including recent works at Salford |
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Sept 21, 2017 10:51:19 GMT
Greetings, Spending time on this forum leads me to believe that you all have some interest in the good of Worcester City FC – as do I (albeit from afar). Anyway, just wanted to share a few things; I recently contacted a stadium construction company and was quoted a price for a 500 seat stand, it was £125,000 + VAT. Definitely cheaper than I imagined. A total spend for a modest stadium (including clubhouse, changing rooms & toilets as portable buildings, floodlights, hard standing area around the pitch, football goals etc) runs to just under £400,000. Secondly I have created an artist’s impression of what such a stand might look like if City were to make it home. Wishful thinking!? I hope not. Up the City Slight problem being that your artists impression shows a stand with less than 200 seats. |
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Post by genghis on Sept 21, 2017 13:43:50 GMT
Greetings, Spending time on this forum leads me to believe that you all have some interest in the good of Worcester City FC – as do I (albeit from afar). Anyway, just wanted to share a few things; I recently contacted a stadium construction company and was quoted a price for a 500 seat stand, it was £125,000 + VAT. Definitely cheaper than I imagined. A total spend for a modest stadium (including clubhouse, changing rooms & toilets as portable buildings, floodlights, hard standing area around the pitch, football goals etc) runs to just under £400,000. Secondly I have created an artist’s impression of what such a stand might look like if City were to make it home. Wishful thinking!? I hope not. Up the City Ignore any naysayers, that's excellent work. The price seems much more reasonable than I would expect too. |
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Sept 21, 2017 14:45:55 GMT
But where are the other 300 seats?
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Post by Noboddy aka Lord Ealing on Sept 21, 2017 14:50:14 GMT
They are in the Boddy Stand next to it. It's built from bullshit and delusions and can actually seat several million fans.
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Post by downthelane on Sept 21, 2017 17:42:46 GMT
That's same BS that the Trust Stadium at Perdiswell will be built with.
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Post by Down The Pan on Sept 21, 2017 18:44:33 GMT
No, the "Trust" stadium came with a full planning application, you must have seen the plans?
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Post by timeistight1 on Sept 22, 2017 7:13:30 GMT
But where are the other 300 seats? You seem to have missed the entire point of the post. The crux of the matter is that a modest football stand can be built and purchased relatively cheaply (in football terms). Regarding my image; it’s an impression of what such a stand might look like. I am not a professional designer, so perhaps scale and perspective are a little off. And by the way, if you count again you will find the image has 4 blocks of 96 seats so there are actually 384 seats in the picture. It has both blue and black seats, I think perhaps you have got yourself a little confused! |
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Post by timeistight1 on Sept 22, 2017 7:15:07 GMT
Greetings, Spending time on this forum leads me to believe that you all have some interest in the good of Worcester City FC – as do I (albeit from afar). Anyway, just wanted to share a few things; I recently contacted a stadium construction company and was quoted a price for a 500 seat stand, it was £125,000 + VAT. Definitely cheaper than I imagined. A total spend for a modest stadium (including clubhouse, changing rooms & toilets as portable buildings, floodlights, hard standing area around the pitch, football goals etc) runs to just under £400,000. Secondly I have created an artist’s impression of what such a stand might look like if City were to make it home. Wishful thinking!? I hope not. Up the City Sounds like the prices of Stadium Solutions who have carried out a huge number of works for football clubs in the UK, including recent works at Salford Stadium Solutions refused to give me a quote, they wanted to know all sorts of details. The company I got the quote from seemed altogether more professional and pragmatic, within 2 days I had example pictures and prices. |
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Post by timeistight1 on Sept 22, 2017 7:20:47 GMT
Just in case anyone is interested; Here’s another ‘Pie in the Sky’ stand I created. I couldn’t obtain a quote for a 500 seat stand that included changing rooms and toilets beneath, some companies just wouldn’t reply. Attachments:
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Sept 22, 2017 8:37:16 GMT
Thanks for making the effort Timeistight. A far more sensible and interesting post than a lot of recent garbage on this mb.
I like the first image in the sense that the location appears to be Perdiswell 😊
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Post by The Verner on Sept 22, 2017 8:38:24 GMT
Just in case anyone is interested; Here’s another ‘Pie in the Sky’ stand I created. I couldn’t obtain a quote for a 500 seat stand that included changing rooms and toilets beneath, some companies just wouldn’t reply. Missing a vital piece.....the tunnel ! |
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Post by The Verner on Sept 22, 2017 8:46:03 GMT
Sounds like the prices of Stadium Solutions who have carried out a huge number of works for football clubs in the UK, including recent works at Salford Stadium Solutions refused to give me a quote, they wanted to know all sorts of details. The company I got the quote from seemed altogether more professional and pragmatic, within 2 days I had example pictures and prices. I have a large number of quotations from Stadium Solution for 2 sites that were / are being looked at. Stadium Solutions are £98,780+VAT for a 500 seated stand. £12,000 for a covered 150 capacity terrace stand They can add a bay to this terrace stand, every bay increases by 30 people for £2,500. £52,000 for 250 seated stand £115 per metre for pitch side fencing and gates £120 per metre for ground fencing Dugouts - £1,500 |
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Post by Noboddy aka Lord Ealing on Sept 22, 2017 8:54:25 GMT
Interesting to see the mock up, but haven't we already got the proposed stadium images produced by the Trust, as well as budgets etc?
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Post by timeistight1 on Sept 22, 2017 12:27:09 GMT
Thanks for making the effort Timeistight. A far more sensible and interesting post than a lot of recent garbage on this mb. I like the first image in the sense that the location appears to be Perdiswell 😊 Haha, I'm afraid the image is based on a photo I took on a train between Shrub Hill and Foregate Street! Perdiswell is becoming a distant dream. Warndon is the future!!?? |
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Post by timeistight1 on Sept 22, 2017 12:33:50 GMT
Stadium Solutions refused to give me a quote, they wanted to know all sorts of details. The company I got the quote from seemed altogether more professional and pragmatic, within 2 days I had example pictures and prices. I have a large number of quotations from Stadium Solution for 2 sites that were / are being looked at. Stadium Solutions are £98,780+VAT for a 500 seated stand. £12,000 for a covered 150 capacity terrace stand They can add a bay to this terrace stand, every bay increases by 30 people for £2,500. £52,000 for 250 seated stand £115 per metre for pitch side fencing and gates £120 per metre for ground fencing Dugouts - £1,500 Thanks, I appreciate this knowing these figures. Even cheaper than my quote from Arena Group. It's interesting to see that creating a non league football ground really doesn't need to cost the earth. Surely with sensible leadership (!!) a return to Worcester is easily achievable! |
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Post by Bonzo Bitburg on Sept 22, 2017 12:47:24 GMT
Surely that just means the hardware is almost irrelevant to the final cost of building a stadium.
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Sept 22, 2017 15:22:47 GMT
Absolutely. Apart any costs of and imposed by planning consent the cost would probably double for a green field site with floodlighting, services, site clearance, groundworks, car parking, social club / bar, access roads etc etc.
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Sept 22, 2017 15:28:50 GMT
Oh and if City are playing at their own ground in Worcester by the start of the 2019/20 season then I will spend the early season at sea scooping up valuable red herring shoals.
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Post by jupu on Sept 22, 2017 17:29:11 GMT
Absolutely. Apart any costs of and imposed by planning consent the cost would probably double for a green field site with floodlighting, services, site clearance, groundworks, car parking, social club / bar, access roads etc etc. Fully agree, issues such as highways and access, groundwork, utilities would all be quite significant cost factors. |
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Sept 22, 2017 18:30:25 GMT
The WCFC contribution to the infrastructure costs for the St Modwen Nunnery Way site were £ 1.2 m, although our chairman managed to negotiate it down to 500k + VAT for a picture of fresh air !
If nothing costs 500 k, and St Modwen wanted 1.2 m which I'm sure must be correct as why would the WCFC Board sign up to it ( answers on a postcard to D Boddy, Coventry City FC ) , I suspect the true costs are somewhere in between. However with 250k at most left in the bank, it's all pretty irrelevant really.
Perhaps Mr Hampson will explain all to shareholders at the AGM Colin Layland is sorting out ?
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