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Post by richwidd on Jun 14, 2017 13:04:52 GMT
We will be holding a Trust Forum on Thursday 29th June starting at 7.30pm.
It will be held at:
The Warndon Community Hub
Shap Drive
Warndon
Worcester
WR4 9NX
Everyone is welcome & there will be an opportunity to join the Trust on the night if you are not already a member.
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Post by Croc on Jun 14, 2017 14:23:51 GMT
We will be holding a Trust Forum on Thursday 29th June starting at 7.30pm. It will be held at: The Warndon Community Hub Shap Drive Warndon Worcester WR4 9NX Everyone is welcome & there will be an opportunity to join the Trust on the night if you are not already a member. I trust downthelane will come along as they want the best for the club and make themselves known to us. |
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Post by downthelane on Jun 14, 2017 18:16:04 GMT
It is not about downthelane. If you and others believe the Trust and what they do to support the Club is the best for the Club then go for it.
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Post by Croc on Jun 14, 2017 23:23:41 GMT
It is not about downthelane. If you and others believe the Trust and what they do to support the Club is the best for the Club then go for it. Exactly the response I expected from you... |
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Post by downthelane on Jun 15, 2017 6:19:02 GMT
And what was wrong with my response Croc?
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Post by creaner on Jun 15, 2017 6:39:38 GMT
And what was wrong with my response Croc? I appreciate your contribution to the debate and hope you continue. |
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Jun 15, 2017 12:43:30 GMT
No no, this meeting isn't about those who support the views and actions of the Supporters Trust, if it was it would be a pretty dull talking shop. Personally I'd much prefer it if it was also a meeting of people who don't agree with the actions of the Trust, but believe that the club should take different routes. I'd prefer to see you there downthelane than Croc, because I already know Crocs view and we'd just be nodding donkeys.
The club is clearly in a state of turmoil, and that turmoil seems to be growing, with the auditors calling time on the club. But within this turmoil is the Perdiswell planning application. This will be decided one way or another by the time of the Forum. All views on how we move forward with Perdiswell will be appreciated, regardless of whether this is to move forward or not.
We in the Supporters Trust are struggling to find any evidence of a coherent plan being put forward by the club with regards to matters both on and off the pitch. The Business Plan put forward after the last AGM has clearly failed, with investment of £150 being brought in to the club, the share investment plan hasn't worked. The net result of the Business Plan 12 months on has been all the players made available with many leaving, no incoming investment leading to a voluntary resignation, 2 step demotion on top of a relegation.
Now, we can continue to accept failure, and doing the same thing will always bring the same results. Or we can look for change.
The Supporters Trust don't have all the answers, we are just a bunch of supporters who are trying to formulate a future for the club. We don't even want to take over the club, but believe that constitutional change is needed. Anthony Hampson shares this view, so there's no power struggle here.
I urge all supporters to come to this meeting, after all , the Supporters Trust should be representative of the views of as many supporters as possible. It's difficult to be representative if supporters don't share their views and opinions.
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 22, 2017 19:56:35 GMT
Perhaps the meeting should be deferred until after the planning application for Perdiswell is finally concluded?
If not then the meeting simply becomes a meeting based on "if". Formulating policy or views on this basis becomes difficult if not impossible.
Might it not be better to hear supporters views when there is certainty on the site for a potential new ground? The delay is infuriating and unwarranted but it exists.
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Post by thesecondjack on Jun 23, 2017 19:03:05 GMT
What is the purpose of the meeting? I've still not been told what it is about.
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Post by downthelane on Jun 23, 2017 21:49:47 GMT
Jack I thought you were on the Trust board?
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Post by thatloudbloke on Jun 24, 2017 14:29:49 GMT
trust members do not know either, thought after the guy from Exeter came a few meetings ago & said comunication was the most important thing to keep people informed of what was going on, as of yet the comunication is poor...
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Post by Bonzo Bitburg on Jun 24, 2017 21:45:42 GMT
What is the purpose of the meeting? I've still not been told what it is about. I suspect it's screamingly obvious but an official response would not be a bad thing. |
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Post by creaner on Jun 24, 2017 22:11:55 GMT
What is the purpose of the meeting? I've still not been told what it is about. I suspect it's screamingly obvious but an official response would not be a bad thing. Whichever way the planning application went an urgent meeting was always going to be required to discuss the situation right now and decide on next steps. This is it. Come along. Ask questions, demand answers but let's get our s*** together because time is running out. |
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Post by jimbo on Jun 24, 2017 23:34:44 GMT
I suspect it's screamingly obvious but an official response would not be a bad thing. Whichever way the planning application went an urgent meeting was always going to be required to discuss the situation right now and decide on next steps. This is it. Come along. Ask questions, demand answers but let's get our s*** together because time is running out. Ill be abroad Rob, but can you ask a question for me please? 'At what point will we as a trust & WCFC supporters consider breaking away & frming a new club. |
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Post by richwidd on Jun 25, 2017 6:59:41 GMT
trust members do not know either, thought after the guy from Exeter came a few meetings ago & said comunication was the most important thing to keep people informed of what was going on, as of yet the comunication is poor... I'm not being funny but are you really questioning communication over the past few weeks? We have been Front Pages Headlines in the Worcester News at least three times and that includes the headlines board outside every newsagent in the City and beyond. (You have made several comments on the subjects). I have lost count of how many times we have been on the Radio and that includes a one hour phone in where the vast majority was about WCFC. We have created as many opportunities as we can to get on the Radio and we have also been in both of the free papers. The message about this meeting was set when the Club Board cancelled the AGM on 14th June and it has been on Facebook and Twitter ever since. You can talk about whatever you want and you can ask whatever you want, I think Perdiswell and the Club are going to feature but if you want to talk about Goat Herders in outer Mongolia then ask it. This is not and there never has been a meeting where the Chairman will open with "we are not going to take any questions." |
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Post by thatloudbloke on Jun 25, 2017 7:35:43 GMT
trust members do not know either, thought after the guy from Exeter came a few meetings ago & said comunication was the most important thing to keep people informed of what was going on, as of yet the comunication is poor... I'm not being funny but are you really questioning communication over the past few weeks? We have been Front Pages Headlines in the Worcester News at least three times and that includes the headlines board outside every newsagent in the City and beyond. (You have made several comments on the subjects). I have lost count of how many times we have been on the Radio and that includes a one hour phone in where the vast majority was about WCFC. We have created as many opportunities as we can to get on the Radio and we have also been in both of the free papers. The message about this meeting was set when the Club Board cancelled the AGM on 14th June and it has been on Facebook and Twitter ever since. You can talk about whatever you want and you can ask whatever you want, I think Perdiswell and the Club are going to feature but if you want to talk about Goat Herders in outer Mongolia then ask it. This is not and there never has been a meeting where the Chairman will open with "we are not going to take any questions." Rich I work out of Worcester all week, I appreciate what is going on with Perdiswell is in the WN as for the free papers i have not seen either through my letterbox for over 12 months, i dont use twitter, & alot of other supporters are in the same predicament, as I said in the first post, the ST said they would do comunication better in the future, can we not have an agenda put on here wher lots use & FB, also why as it involves WCFC not put on their website... |
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Post by richwidd on Jun 25, 2017 8:02:24 GMT
I'm not being funny but are you really questioning communication over the past few weeks? We have been Front Pages Headlines in the Worcester News at least three times and that includes the headlines board outside every newsagent in the City and beyond. (You have made several comments on the subjects). I have lost count of how many times we have been on the Radio and that includes a one hour phone in where the vast majority was about WCFC. We have created as many opportunities as we can to get on the Radio and we have also been in both of the free papers. The message about this meeting was set when the Club Board cancelled the AGM on 14th June and it has been on Facebook and Twitter ever since. You can talk about whatever you want and you can ask whatever you want, I think Perdiswell and the Club are going to feature but if you want to talk about Goat Herders in outer Mongolia then ask it. This is not and there never has been a meeting where the Chairman will open with "we are not going to take any questions." Rich I work out of Worcester all week, I appreciate what is going on with Perdiswell is in the WN as for the free papers i have not seen either through my letterbox for over 12 months, i dont use twitter, & alot of other supporters are in the same predicament, as I said in the first post, the ST said they would do comunication better in the future, can we not have an agenda put on here wher lots use & FB, also why as it involves WCFC not put on their website... Perdiswell and the Future of our Club. Jimbo has mentioned something he wants to add on another post , what else do you want to talk about? What does anyone else want to add? |
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Jun 25, 2017 9:01:23 GMT
The meeting on the 29th is a forum, and an open forum at that. The Supporters Trust will update the audience as to where things are in the Perdiswell process (obviously no-one was aware of that until three days ago) , and the future of the football club will be discussed in open forum.
Jimbo asks a good question, and it is one of many subjects which will be discussed if the audience wish to discuss them.
The Supporters Trust is led by its members, so really its up to members , and supporters , to create the agenda on the night - thats how an open forum works.
The club is in such financial trouble that it had to reign from the league, the club also was unable to guarantee that players could be paid last season - which is why they were put up for sale. The club has lost its auditors, who are unable to continue in their role, and have cancelled the AGM on this premise - a flimsy one in my opinion.
Whilst we have been actively pursuing Perdiswell , in order to safeguard a future for the club, and supposedly with the clubs backing, they have been involved in secret meetings with the council to scupper Perdiswell even before the planning decision. Why?
Supporters don't need spoon feeding with this information - its in the public domain, its been discussed on here quite a lot recently, I live and work way away from Worcester too, and I don't use Twitter either.
The football club are well aware of the open forum, and as an open forum, I would assume that they would take this opportunity to discuss the future of the club with their supporters at such a critical time. The football club should put it on its website, but that is their decision to make, no-one else's.
So many supporters now must have so many unanswered questions - hence the decision to hold such an open forum.
The Supporters Trust don't have the answers, you, the supporters have the answers, so you, the supporters, should set the agenda.
As I said, there should be representatives from all parties at the forum, from the ST, the football club, the Supporters Club, and as many supporters as possible.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Jun 25, 2017 9:54:50 GMT
What amazes me is that there seems to be more concern over the Supporters Trust not issuing an agenda, than there is over the the football club losing £7 million quid, St Georges Lane, Nunnery Way, their place in the Football Conference, and having no plans for a future.I have friends who are active, or have formed action groups, at other clubs who have had problems, and they are quite surprised at the lack of concern most supporters show to WCFCs plight. The biggest concern seems to be where Ludlow Town play, when the real concern should be that we are even having to be playing against Ludlow Town!
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Post by Croc on Jun 25, 2017 9:55:35 GMT
Has an invitation been extended to anyone from the City Council to attend?
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Jun 25, 2017 9:56:32 GMT
Its an OPEN FORUM!!!!!! Its NOT by invitation.
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Post by dragon on Jun 25, 2017 10:42:37 GMT
Trouble is, Who, WCFC is a lost cause, run into obscurity by a bunch of shysters intent on seeing it wound up. Perdiswell is a aide show if seen as anything to do with that rabble. Let`s just hope news of a `New City` emerges from the Trust meeting !
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Jun 25, 2017 11:00:04 GMT
Agreed, the trouble is, would a New City go the same way? Or do we accept that, actually the people of Worcester, including the vast majority of fans just want to turn up on a Saturday and expect there to be football, and go home afterwards? If that is the case, then, a new City would go the same way. Its already been said on here that " A new club wouldn't be Worcester City" so the defeatists and doom mongers have already staked their position on this.
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Post by jimbo on Jun 25, 2017 13:15:48 GMT
Agreed, the trouble is, would a New City go the same way? Or do we accept that, actually the people of Worcester, including the vast majority of fans just want to turn up on a Saturday and expect there to be football, and go home afterwards? If that is the case, then, a new City would go the same way. Its already been said on here that " A new club wouldn't be Worcester City" so the defeatists and doom mongers have already staked their position on this. The trouble is Who? That is exactly all the majority of football fans want, from ground level right thro to The Premiership & Internationals !! However, without the likes of you dedicated people on The Trust Board they will have no chance of even being a spectator in the future. I have absolutely no idea how much more if anything you can do to get this message across, but the general public do need to understand this fact. |
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Jun 25, 2017 13:31:04 GMT
Unfortunately, a club has to die before most people really wants to do anything. Just look at Hereford as an example.
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Post by citytoon on Jun 26, 2017 12:29:25 GMT
I can't make the forum on Thursday, however, my question (which those attending may also be interested in) would be as follows:
Putting the planning application to one side, what work has been done to date on seeking the City Council's support for community asset transfer (just for members' information). What is planned/needs doing in the Trust's view to secure that support? I would have thought that there is far more (legitimate) discretion to the City Council in rejecting the proposal at that stage.
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Post by althom on Jun 26, 2017 15:46:36 GMT
A question i have is just how much effort has been put in by the Club Board of Directors in promoting the Perdiswell application? From what i can assume, that is almost nil! Has any lobbying or networking been done by them or have they just been sitting in the background waiting for it to fail?
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Post by rushwickdon on Jun 26, 2017 21:33:51 GMT
althom- you wasted a word by putting 'almost' in your post........
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Post by geoffworcester on Jun 29, 2017 17:28:53 GMT
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