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Post by richwidd on Mar 26, 2017 9:23:32 GMT
I regularly browse the comments on the Council Planning page, 2 things of note 1. A large number of the objections that are hand written and appear to be by the same person. 2. I do not know names and addresses of any of the current Board and the Playing Staff and any other Support Staff but I have not noticed any of there names. Should we not approach them and get them on board? Yes Camper you are 100% right, the current Board and anyone associated with the club who supports the Perdiswell Planning Application should be writing in either by letter or via the Council website.
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Post by medici on Mar 26, 2017 11:55:11 GMT
Well said Camper so why are there no comments made by the Board? This is the football clubs planning scheme and they havent even backed it so far.
Wilcox - you are the clubs community man, and this is a community scheme, so you must want/need this scheme to give you the pitches for multiple junior teams, so wheres your comments? Pinches - you are the clubs only sponsor, you want to see your sponsorship being used to develop the club , and you are a worcester man to the heart so wheres your comments? Murphy - you are the clubs football secretary and you're paid employee of the club, so where are your comments in support of your employers future? Layland - Why not just do it? You know as a former councillor how important these comments are, a former councillor and director of this club, yet you havent made a comment. You don't have to wait until someone else does it for once. Hampson - You went on radio giving your 100% support to Perdiswell, you said that with Perdiswell and community ownership you could not bring in the money to keep the club going. You are the chairman, this is your plan, so wheres your comments in support? I think its disgusting that the chairman of the club hasnt even bothered to show his support for his own scheme. A chairman worth the name would be the first to get his comments of support in.
And also, why doesnt the club website promote the Perdiswell scheme? Every other club in the country or even in the world, who are planning a new ground will have the plans splashed all over their website and they even build seperate areas or separate sites to promote the new ground. But Worcester City are saying nothing to their fans and the people of Worcester about Perdiswell. Anyone visiting the website would never know that the club is planning a new ground at Perdiswell and that the planning application could be within a couple of months.
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Post by medici on Mar 26, 2017 12:18:48 GMT
Just to remind Anthony Hampson these are his words in the Worcester News on Febraury 24th of this year
“We wholeheartedly support the Perdiswell planning application and understand this will be heard either in April or May,” Hampson said.
“Most football clubs live on pipe dreams and that is why we are ring-fencing as much money as we can so there will be a reasonable amount of funding available.
“It is easier to raise funds to build new stadiums if you are a community-owned club that would effectively allow an asset transfer from the council.
So get on with it, wholeheartedly support it by supporting the planning application at the planning portal. You're the chairman, so act like a chairman
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Post by Noboddy aka Lord Ealing on Mar 26, 2017 21:11:58 GMT
I've tried to "like" Medici's posts without success. You're spot on.
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Post by jimbo on Mar 26, 2017 22:10:03 GMT
Are these comments founded ? You will not see any comment from me (yet) on line, but I have written (snail mail & email). Perhaps these people have as well
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Mar 27, 2017 12:45:53 GMT
The portal is updated every 2/3 days, so all comments will be on there eventually. It hadn't struck me that the directors hadnt made comment, but they may well have done in the last few days. It would be bizarre if they didn't.
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Post by Woodenose on Mar 27, 2017 13:31:39 GMT
The portal is updated every 2/3 days, so all comments will be on there eventually. It hadn't struck me that the directors hadnt made comment, but they may well have done in the last few days. It would be bizarre if they didn't. Yes very true ,there is still time to comment (30th is the cut off point at the moment) there seems to be a lot of objectors that have suddenly appeared on the portal that did not comment 2 years ago. Makes you wonder
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Post by Mark on Mar 27, 2017 20:31:53 GMT
I am fully supportive of the proposals for a stadium at Perdiswell and I have put my comments on the Portal a such. What bothers me about the whole application is this:-
Although I accept that the application is worthwhile and valid and will get passed, the Club have no money to build a stdium, no money to buy the land on which to build it even if the Council were willing to sell some land (which they aren't). The Council appear to be unwilling to give, lease or rent land to the Club for a Stadium so we will end up with permission to build something that we are simply unable to build. Basically, we are F@@**d.
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Post by Woodenose on Mar 28, 2017 8:47:25 GMT
I am fully supportive of the proposals for a stadium at Perdiswell and I have put my comments on the Portal a such. What bothers me about the whole application is this:- Although I accept that the application is worthwhile and valid and will get passed, the Club have no money to build a stdium, no money to buy the land on which to build it even if the Council were willing to sell some land (which they aren't). The Council appear to be unwilling to give, lease or rent land to the Club for a Stadium so we will end up with permission to build something that we are simply unable to build. Basically, we are F@@**d. I understand what you are saying Mark, but, the council have just sold off some of their land to the golf club on a 30 year lease, so it is possible the same could apply to the Football Club. If the application is successful then hopefully investors and advertising could become available to support the club. I also think that volunteers would play an important role in helping the club keep afloat
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Post by simon on Mar 28, 2017 12:15:10 GMT
Does anyone know how much land the golf club has leased/bought and at what cost? Has this been a one off payment or is it an annual subscription? How much land would we need?
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Post by Woodenose on Mar 28, 2017 12:33:51 GMT
Does anyone know how much land the golf club has leased/bought and at what cost? Has this been a one off payment or is it an annual subscription? How much land would we need? I don't know the cost or if it was a one off payment, the land is I think the last 9 holes ,which is past the new football pitches. I am sure someone will have more information than I can give you
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Post by jupu on Mar 28, 2017 13:02:35 GMT
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Post by Woodenose on Mar 28, 2017 14:58:47 GMT
Yes, this will get passed tonight, freeing up more space to walk the dog
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Mar 28, 2017 15:07:22 GMT
I'm assuming Gareth Jones will be objecting to this disposal of land, he has said publicly that he objects to disposal of land at Perdiswell, so how come he hasnt written any formal objection regarding this scheme to date? Or is it just the football ground he objects to? Any other disposal by the City Council at Perdiswell is fair game?
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Post by Woodenose on Mar 28, 2017 15:25:56 GMT
I'm assuming Gareth Jones will be objecting to this disposal of land, he has said publicly that he objects to disposal of land at Perdiswell, so how come he hasnt written any formal objection regarding this scheme to date? Or is it just the football ground he objects to? Any other disposal by the City Council at Perdiswell is fair game? Yes Jem .very quiet from Cllr Jones ,will have to see if he votes against this proposal tonight, but he would go against the wishes of his party if he does
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Mar 28, 2017 15:49:37 GMT
Party or principles hey? Gareth?? If this does go through, its sets a precedence. The City Council is prepared to dispose of land at Perdiswell, the Tories back it. Interesting developments
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Post by Croc on Mar 28, 2017 16:01:57 GMT
I'm assuming Gareth Jones will be objecting to this disposal of land, he has said publicly that he objects to disposal of land at Perdiswell, so how come he hasnt written any formal objection regarding this scheme to date? Or is it just the football ground he objects to? Any other disposal by the City Council at Perdiswell is fair game? Yes Jem .very quiet from Cllr Jones ,will have to see if he votes against this proposal tonight, but he would go against the wishes of his party if he does Councillor Alan Feeney is in the same box as well: I feel another letter to the Press coming on if this is passed tonight... Bear in mind this is the elected representative who lied about Labour wanting to give away the whole of Perdiswell to the football club to scaremonger local residents in the area.
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Mar 30, 2017 0:29:59 GMT
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Post by richwidd on Mar 30, 2017 8:03:56 GMT
"The public consultation asked whether the public were in favour of the temporary arrangements for golf provision continuing on a permanent basis. There were 350 responses to the public consultation, the majority of which were from golfers. However, there were over 130 responses from local residents, dog walkers, runners and nature lovers. 82.5% of all responses were in favour of the current arrangements continuing"
Let's hope the Council will be taking into consideration that the vast majority of people in this City, who have made their views known, support the Perdiswell application. Or will as one protester put it, "We can't just give into the what the majority want from a well cleverly planned campaign." This should go down to the Public will once planning permission is granted.
Interesting that a lot of protesters are mentioning putting a ground on the outskirts of the City. They must be forgetting that planning was approved twice for NW. The first time is was kicked out by the Planning Inspector (or whatever its called) due to the 'Amount' of opposition to enabling development which included Spetchley Estate who are now trying to build on as much land as possible in that area . The second time, the County Council Highways insisted on a Footbridge to nowhere being built across the dual carriageway of Nunnery Way, which correct me if I am wrong came from the department that Gareth Jones works for. There was no way a ground was ever going to happen on the outskirts of Town and that was when the Club had the money to pay for it. For some reason it always had to be assisted by enabling development, I can't think for a second why we needed that, perhaps David Hallmark could answer that, he's the f**k**g genius who arranged it all.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Mar 30, 2017 9:32:02 GMT
And they think that the plans are to keep it as a golf course!!! No, the plan is to develop Adventure Golf, like in London, Bristol and a few other places, described as
"Adventure Golf courses have been big successes in many parts of the country, including Bristol, Liverpool, London and Brighton. Bigger and better than old fashioned crazy golf, the courses boast thrilling fun themes like jungles, dinosaurs or pirates."
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Post by Croc on Mar 30, 2017 9:56:38 GMT
Time to fire up the laptop and open Microsoft Word...
Have to say - Tim Munslow's letters to the WN have been excellent - hats off to you
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Post by Woodenose on Mar 30, 2017 11:55:52 GMT
"The public consultation asked whether the public were in favour of the temporary arrangements for golf provision continuing on a permanent basis. There were 350 responses to the public consultation, the majority of which were from golfers. However, there were over 130 responses from local residents, dog walkers, runners and nature lovers. 82.5% of all responses were in favour of the current arrangements continuing" Let's hope the Council will be taking into consideration that the vast majority of people in this City, who have made their views known, support the Perdiswell application. Or will as one protester put it, "We can't just give into the what the majority want from a well cleverly planned campaign." This should go down to the Public will once planning permission is granted. Interesting that a lot of protesters are mentioning putting a ground on the outskirts of the City. They must be forgetting that planning was approved twice for NW. The first time is was kicked out by the Planning Inspector (or whatever its called) due to the 'Amount' of opposition to enabling development which included Spetchley Estate who are now trying to build on as much land as possible in that area . The second time, the County Council Highways insisted on a Footbridge to nowhere being built across the dual carriageway of Nunnery Way, which correct me if I am wrong came from the department that Gareth Jones works for. There was no way a ground was ever going to happen on the outskirts of Town and that was when the Club had the money to pay for it. For some reason it always had to be assisted by enabling development, I can't think for a second why we needed that, perhaps David Hallmark could answer that, he's the f**k**g genius who arranged it all. The vast majority of protesters haven't a clue about of what's been said or published, they rely heavily on a "one man crusade " to inform or misinform them of things that he thinks they would like to hear(all against the application) he seem to be prejudice against WCFC and it's supporters.
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Post by greenman on Mar 30, 2017 14:09:11 GMT
And they think that the plans are to keep it as a golf course!!! No, the plan is to develop Adventure Golf, like in London, Bristol and a few other places, described as "Adventure Golf courses have been big successes in many parts of the country, including Bristol, Liverpool, London and Brighton. Bigger and better than old fashioned crazy golf, the courses boast thrilling fun themes like jungles, dinosaurs or pirates." Oh no Jem you will be suggesting football being played on a golf course next, absolute sacrilege. Hang on a moment though I see 'Footgolf' is already being established on some courses.
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Post by Croc on Mar 30, 2017 14:52:40 GMT
Just did a Google Image Search for "Adventure Golf" Nice and understated blending in with the surroundings completely.
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Post by richwidd on Mar 30, 2017 15:34:44 GMT
This is what takes place at the other places around the Country. Maybe that's what we need to add to the planning application, a few dinosaurs and a Volcano.
Over to you Lord Ealing.
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Post by Noboddy aka Lord Ealing on Mar 30, 2017 17:24:06 GMT
This is one time when reality beats fantasy hands down. Appalling. You can already see it derelict in five years time.
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Post by Croc on Apr 6, 2017 10:43:00 GMT
ICYMI: From yesterday's Worcester News Letters
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Post by The Verner on Apr 6, 2017 16:43:16 GMT
I dont think they have a leg to stand on...look at the recent consultee comments....majority are positive.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Apr 6, 2017 17:44:26 GMT
Its really disappointing when a Councillor, who really should keep himself in the know regarding planning applications, can still get the size of the stadium completely wrong (no Jones, its NOT a 4,400 seat stadium) and also has advised his ward constituents to write to make comments at the planning portal AFTER the end of the consultation period! He never said a word during the consultation period, but now its over??
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Post by kendin835 on Apr 6, 2017 20:32:10 GMT
Its really disappointing when a Councillor, who really should keep himself in the know regarding planning applications, can still get the size of the stadium completely wrong (no Jones, its NOT a 4,400 seat stadium) and also has advised his ward constituents to write to make comments at the planning portal AFTER the end of the consultation period! He never said a word during the consultation period, but now its over?? Jem, this is the 'arrogance of the man' and has never highlighted or been interested in Perdiswell all the time he has been our St.Stephens Ward Councillor, until the application for the WCFC ST application was proposed and submitted.He is just a 'chancer' (I have just checked the portal and comments are still being allowed to be posted as of the 6th April 2017)
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