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Post by thesecondjack on Jan 21, 2016 21:51:32 GMT
I suspect unlike most who would be willing to give to the club, should they become a shock millionaire, I have age on my side being 22... That said, my idea of half time oranges is a Jaffa cake or two!! Who in their right mind wouldn't insist that they get to play a game though? Even if its in a friendly!
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Jan 22, 2016 18:45:11 GMT
Post by Dodger on Jan 22, 2016 18:45:11 GMT
Knowing my luck, Camelot's cheque would bounce!!! Dodger.
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Jan 25, 2016 15:39:35 GMT
Post by chrisj on Jan 25, 2016 15:39:35 GMT
who can go to the AGM?
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Jan 25, 2016 15:55:24 GMT
Post by kentenigmawcfc on Jan 25, 2016 15:55:24 GMT
Hi Chris, Well normally it would only be open to the Board members, Club (not Trust) shareholders unless you hold shares in both and invited parties relevant to what may be on the agenda for discussion. There was a suggestion in one of the other earlier posts, under this subject header, that this meeting was open to all which would be unusual but hopefully someone from the Board who reads these posts will clarify that for you later.
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Jan 25, 2016 15:59:20 GMT
Post by chrisj on Jan 25, 2016 15:59:20 GMT
cheers kentenigmawcfc I've got fed up with whats gone on now Too many lies for years like this, so if it is for everyone then I'm going.
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Jan 25, 2016 16:08:53 GMT
Post by kentenigmawcfc on Jan 25, 2016 16:08:53 GMT
Hi Chris, I suggest you wait till someone from the Board replies one way or the other to confirm if the AGM is an open meeting or not. I suspect most of them will still be at work at the moment but Rob Crean and Jem Pitt usually keep an eye on comments on here and will I'm sure reply. If they don't know I am sure they will be on the blower to someone to get an answer and will then post on here.
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Jan 25, 2016 17:04:58 GMT
Post by jimbo on Jan 25, 2016 17:04:58 GMT
I haven't got my invitation letter with me, but the AGM will be exclusively for shareholders. However, I believe there is an open meeting after the AGM. I am sure that someone will clarify that for you.
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Jan 25, 2016 17:13:53 GMT
Post by kentenigmawcfc on Jan 25, 2016 17:13:53 GMT
That would make more sense Jimbo and hopefully ChrisJ will read your post and attend the open meeting.
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Jan 25, 2016 22:53:13 GMT
Post by jimbo on Jan 25, 2016 22:53:13 GMT
Paragraph 3 of the AGM letter reads:
At the conclusion of the AGM a presentation will be made to enable the discussion of any issues which have not been covered as part of the formal business. This will be open to both Shareholders and non-Shareholders.
So Chrisj, you can attend at that time. Hope this helps.
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Jan 26, 2016 11:20:42 GMT
Post by chrisj on Jan 26, 2016 11:20:42 GMT
cheers jimbo, but what time will that be? what am I supposed to do just hang about for how long, an hour? So whose had an invite to this open meeting cos it dont sound that open.
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Jan 26, 2016 11:23:59 GMT
Post by chrisj on Jan 26, 2016 11:23:59 GMT
it dont mention anything on the website
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Jan 26, 2016 11:45:52 GMT
Post by kentenigmawcfc on Jan 26, 2016 11:45:52 GMT
Hi Chris, You will not require an invite to enter once the main meeting is concluded but I don't think anyone could give you a time as to when the doors will be open to people such as yourself. Please remember that apart from accepting or not the accounts, voting for the election of board members, there has not been an AGM for more than five years so shareholders may have a lot of questions especially with all that has and is going on and it's possible implications for shareholders and the Club, so the ability to pin down a time would be virtually impossible.
The meeting starts at 7.30 p.m. and I expect there will be the usual apologies for absence for anyone who cannot attend, a general apology/statement as to why the AGM has been delayed so long and I expect a few questions or statements from shareholders and the Board about that. The financials will be discussed and I suspect that will generate a debate as the previous missing years are not being provided, unless the powers that be change their minds before the meeting and I suspect a lot of questions about the true state of the Clubs finances will be asked. Then the board candidates have to be declared and voted for, maybe some may be questioned prior to that vote? Unless things get very heated my best guess would be you would be allowed in between 9 and 9.30 but it is only a guess Chris and depends on how many shareholders turn up and the questions they wish to raise during the AGM. These sort of meetings are not an exact science.
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Jan 26, 2016 16:38:33 GMT
Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Jan 26, 2016 16:38:33 GMT
Chris I think that Simon has answered your questions very clearly. AGM's are not an exact science. However, the AGM is a meeting of shareholders only, so if you are a shareholder, please do come along. I'd encourage every shareholder to come to AGM's particularly if you are also a City supporter, and therefore have more than just a vested financial interest in the company and the way that it is run.
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Jan 27, 2016 22:18:03 GMT
Post by jimbo on Jan 27, 2016 22:18:03 GMT
Jem I've sent you a PM, hopefully you'll see this if you haven't seen it
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2016 9:14:44 GMT
It's important now that our firepower is focussed on one target - not just at an agm but generally. That target is the council and their lack of movement. We suffered at the time of the NW debacle because of schisms and squabbling. The message to the councillors has to be clear - the city needs more sports and leisure facilities and WCFC can help supply these. Then get the WN on message with this.
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Jan 28, 2016 10:19:13 GMT
Post by stamoo on Jan 28, 2016 10:19:13 GMT
It's important now that our firepower is focussed on one target - not just at an agm but generally. That target is the council and their lack of movement. We suffered at the time of the NW debacle because of schisms and squabbling. The message to the councillors has to be clear - the city needs more sports and leisure facilities and WCFC can help supply these. Then get the WN on message with this. Archie, you are SO right! Everyone needs to pull together so the Club can show a united front and focus on the BIG picture which is securing our future by a return to the City and a new home at Perdiswell.
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Jan 28, 2016 10:58:42 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2016 10:58:42 GMT
I wish I could be involved more, but I'm hundreds of miles away and have had health issues lately. My local councillor has never heard of Worcester, let alone St Stephen's ward.
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Jan 28, 2016 12:03:58 GMT
Post by The Verner on Jan 28, 2016 12:03:58 GMT
I hope tonight's AGM goes well and without any problems. Maybe it will spark more movement and people doing more !
I still believe, like some, that all those standing for election / re-election have their own little say as to why they are on the board, what do they bring ?
I can understand what many do, and support many, but there will be people out there who dont know what everyone brings to the table and some who need some convincing also !
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Jan 28, 2016 13:39:51 GMT
Post by citytoon on Jan 28, 2016 13:39:51 GMT
Are there any online updates planned for tonight?
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Jan 28, 2016 16:06:38 GMT
Post by geoffworcester on Jan 28, 2016 16:06:38 GMT
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Jan 28, 2016 17:20:30 GMT
Post by citytoon on Jan 28, 2016 17:20:30 GMT
Good man Geoff. Thanks!
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Jan 28, 2016 18:08:58 GMT
Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Jan 28, 2016 18:08:58 GMT
Can shareholders attending the meeting please NOT make comments or blog or Tweet during the AGM. An AGM is a confidential meeting of shareholders with information being provided which is NOT for the public domain.
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Jan 28, 2016 22:16:28 GMT
Post by thesecondjack on Jan 28, 2016 22:16:28 GMT
As a non-shareholder who wasn't at the meeting, but following Geoff's live feed, I feel like what has been said is largely positive. I like the idea of working closely with West Brom, if we get a steady flow of 2-3 young players on loan for a small amount/free then that sounds good. Having the Gold Bond online is also a good idea to raise more funds, but think we still need to do more, especially if we're losing 60k a year as was apparently said. All in all, well done for having the meeting, glad it seemed to have a good turnout, well done to Geoff for keeping those unable to attend for whatever reason in the loop with what went on in the non-members meeting... it did make me laugh to think people thought they had to sign in with you!!
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Jan 28, 2016 22:31:59 GMT
Post by jimbo on Jan 28, 2016 22:31:59 GMT
I only found out last night that I was unable to get back for tonight's AGM, so am completely in 'the dark'. However, I gave my proxy votes to a newly elected director who I have 100% confidence in doing what is best for our club & im hoping that if my votes were needed, they made a difference. From the limited information available I am really impressed with the statement by Jem Pitt (one of the new directors), that he thought the Perdiswell project is as good as dead & that one of the other new directors has his 'head in the sand'. This is just what we need..... Open & honest opinions that can be debated in order to find viable solutions ASAP. I hope there will be a report of the meeting available to shareholders like myself that couldn't attend.
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Jan 28, 2016 22:52:52 GMT
Post by citytoon on Jan 28, 2016 22:52:52 GMT
Was following Geoff's live feed this evening (for which thank you Geoff). Must say it's refreshing to finally have a dialogue and some of the issues out in the open.
Is the newly elected director able to elaborate on his comment tonight that his understanding is that the Council think the site at Perdiswell is a no go. On what grounds was it made?
Very concerning if true.
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Jan 28, 2016 22:53:17 GMT
Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Jan 28, 2016 22:53:17 GMT
To be fair, Rob Crean provided an accurate account of the situation with regards to both the Planning Application and the City Councils position, and I did not say that Rob was sitting on the fence, just being a bit more (too) diplomatic, it is very important that everyone is aware that gaining planning permission does not mean that Perdiswell will happen. It needs the desire of the City Council to want it to happen! We've all seen just how quickly the swimming pool happened because there was political will. Unfortunately this is simply not the case with the football ground. I just wanted shareholders, supporters, and the people of Worcester to be fully aware of the gravity of the situation. This is the single most serious hurdle that the football club has ever faced. The CEO of the City Council has sat in a meeting with me, Rob, Anthony Hampson and John Jordan and told us categorically that her Councillors, the chair and vice-chair of the City Council do NOT want WCFC at Perdiswell, it is not a suitable site. She said this whilst also stating that Perdiswell is considered a major sporting hub in the city. so in essence, a major sporting hub, but without a football club! She promised at that meeting that she would come back to us by the end of 2015 and provide us with information about the other sites that they have been considering as suitable. Its now the 28th January, and she has not done this. We gave some leeway as it was the New Years holiday, but to be sat here a month on with nothing is quite frankly unacceptable. And it was made very clear at our meeting that we would be going public about the lack of support from the city council, in fact lets be clear, the opposition of the city council, so here we go! I think its been long enough, over 3 years volunteers like Mark Newell, Rob Crean, Rich Widdowson, Dave Wood, have worked tirelessly to provide a future for WCFC in Worcester, and believe me, if Perdiswell was not considered a suitable site, there is no way we'd have put our time, energy and money into continuing along this line. To say I am disappointed in the total lack of appetite from our City Council is an understatement. The bottom line. Worcester City Council do not want a community sports facility, built around a our premier local football club - Worcester City FC, but providing community sports and leisure, including other pitches (with junior football pitches - try finding them in Worcester for your kids?) , managed by a Community body, the Supporters Trust, bringing in revenue to the city council, and providing multi sports at a site which already includes golf, a swimming pool, sports centre, skate park and youth centre in Worcester. So what DO they want to do with Perdiswell?
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Jan 28, 2016 22:54:59 GMT
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Post by dcx on Jan 28, 2016 22:54:59 GMT
I only found out last night that I was unable to get back for tonight's AGM, so am completely in 'the dark'. However, I gave my proxy votes to a newly elected director who I have 100% confidence in doing what is best for our club & im hoping that if my votes were needed, they made a difference. From the limited information available I am really impressed with the statement by Jem Pitt (one of the new directors), that he thought the Perdiswell project is as good as dead & that one of the other new directors has his 'head in the sand'. This is just what we need..... Open & honest opinions that can be debated in order to find viable solutions ASAP. I hope there will be a report of the meeting available to shareholders like myself that couldn't attend. Refreshingly honest? Perhaps. Deeply concerning? Most definitely. I am afraid whilst this meeting had some positives, I think I now have more concerns over the future of the football club than I did before. I am grateful for Jem's honesty but it was the news I did not want to hear...Perdiswell is a no go. Perdiswell was our future. The amount of time, effort and money that has gone into that over the last three years only for it to not even make it past the planning stage is heartbreaking. I literally have no idea where we go from here? Realistically where else is there? And do we have the resources (human and monetary) to formulate another plan, with the likelihood that the bastard City Council will conspire against us anyway? I also note that Hampson mentioned a ground share as Plan B. And by ground share I assume he means being essentially a permanent lodger at either Bromsgrove, Evesham or Redditch. Last time I checked none of those places were the City of Worcester! Make no mistake, this is not something I ever want to see happen. £60k loss is also far from sustainable - is that the net figure for the last two seasons? Cause that will include money from the cup runs, so take that out as an exceptional item and the shortfall runs much deeper than that. I don't have access to a balance sheet right now but I can tell you our cash reserves cannot support a £60k deficit for more than I would guess two or three seasons, which I have mentioned before. Make no mistake guys, I am not a pessimist with regards to Worcester City. I have always felt, ever since my first match in the late 90s this club could be great. But I am taking a realist approach here and highlighting things which are really quite concerning. I don't want to see the club fail, but with each passing day, I am preparing myself more and more for that conclusion to this sorry tale. (Just to clarify, I am not taking a pop at the current board or Supporter's Trust in the above comment. We all know who put us in this mess, and who is not prepared to help us out of it.)
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Jan 28, 2016 23:15:50 GMT
Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Jan 28, 2016 23:15:50 GMT
Unfortunately the truth hurts, it bloody hurts me massively having put so much energy into helping create a plan for the future. I feel like the club has been dumped at the altar! No-one, least of all myself, wanted to hear what I had to say, but this is very much the reality. Time to be pragmatic, its time for the citizens of Worcester to start demanding our club back. More information will be published in the following days and weeks.Don't be pessimistic, we have a Board in place who are up for the challenge, both on and off the pitch. But, we can't do it alone, we need the help of every stakeholder in Worcester City FC, and this means shareholders, sponsors, supporters, and as many citizens of this great City, to let our council leaders know, football matters to any thriving city, and Worcester City matters massively to Worcester.
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Jan 28, 2016 23:47:56 GMT
Post by Croc on Jan 28, 2016 23:47:56 GMT
The bottom line. Worcester City Council do not want a community sports facility, built around a our premier local football club - Worcester City FC. So what DO they want to do with Perdiswell?
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Jan 28, 2016 23:49:54 GMT
Post by Croc on Jan 28, 2016 23:49:54 GMT
Unfortunately the truth hurts, it bloody hurts me massively having put so much energy into helping create a plan for the future. I feel like the club has been dumped at the altar! No-one, least of all myself, wanted to hear what I had to say, but this is very much the reality. Time to be pragmatic, its time for the citizens of Worcester to start demanding our club back. More information will be published in the following days and weeks.Don't be pessimistic, we have a Board in place who are up for the challenge, both on and off the pitch. But, we can't do it alone, we need the help of every stakeholder in Worcester City FC, and this means shareholders, sponsors, supporters, and as many citizens of this great City, to let our council leaders know, football matters to any thriving city, and Worcester City matters massively to Worcester. Jem, having worked together to try to do something last year - you know I'm fully committed to helping expose this sorry situation to all concerned. Let me know what you want doing and I'm in...
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