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Post by jp on Apr 14, 2007 9:25:45 GMT
I think the most feasible way for City to reach the play offs is if everyone wears their lucky pants every day until mathematically it is impossible.
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Post by Tony is not to despondent now. on Apr 14, 2007 9:27:26 GMT
Hi Leed!! You must be a super optimist!!!!
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Post by Tony is not to despondent now. on Apr 14, 2007 9:27:42 GMT
Hi Leed!! You must be a super optimist!!!!
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Post by smog on Apr 14, 2007 9:27:49 GMT
A word so perfectly apt you could have invented it for this situation  (I also seem to have misread Smog's comment about possibilities above - I thought he was being positive!) at the end of the storm is a golden sky and the sweet silver song of the lark i m nearly always positive ttk. from the predictions i think i ve forecast city to win every game. which means i ve been wrong more often than right. i believe in positive progressive football which i think we are very capable of playing. i also believe that even with a fragmented team we are capable of winning our last 3 games. i just cant see the teams above us capitulating on such a scale but andy, yourself and kieran are right there is still hope however slim. i have very high hopes for next season too. so even if the storm continues the dream lives on! |
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Post by si1268 on Apr 14, 2007 10:14:54 GMT
I stopped going after the Morrison incident and I've found other things to do on Saturdays. I haven't missed the crushing mediocrety at all. If city get themslves a side worth the entrance fee I'll go back.
Until then..."See Ya"
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Post by tim on Apr 14, 2007 10:18:50 GMT
Thanks for sharing that with us  |
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Post by andy on Apr 14, 2007 10:58:10 GMT
Here are todays fixtures ...
Blyth Spartans v Vauxhall Motors, 15:00
Droylsden v Moor Green, 15:00
Harrogate Town v Barrow, 15:00
Hinckley Utd v Kettering, 15:00
Hucknall v Redditch, 15:00
Hyde v Alfreton Town, 15:00
Lancaster City v Farsley Celtic, 15:00
Leigh RMI v Nuneaton, 15:00
Scarborough v Stalybridge, 15:00
Worcester v Worksop, 15:00
Workington v Gainsborough, 15:00
Kieran asks if City will still be able to reach the play-offs after today's fixtures. In answer to that, only two are critical. Harrogate must not beat Barrow, and City must beat Worksop. If Harrogate win, or if City draw or lose, then the door is finally shut.
Points dropped by Farsley, Blyth, Hyde, Hinckley, Workington, Nuneaton etc would be very useful indeed (especially if its all of them!!), but three points taken by all of them today would not close the door, provided the results in the two critical games go our way.
Its more reassuring to hope that just two results go our way than it is to have to rely on seven all working out for us! So, lets just get through today.
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Post by LeedsWCFC on Apr 15, 2007 0:07:27 GMT
Hi Leed!! You must be a super optimist!!!! We all start each season that way but it's normally all gone at a very much earlier stage of the season than it has this time. It's good to have something to cling on to with just two games (plus the play-offs ) to go. |
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Post by LeedsWCFC on Apr 15, 2007 1:34:39 GMT
The latest situation is that if City manage to win the two remaining matches then we need four of the following scenarios to occur to let us into the play-offs:
Workington need to lose all their games against Farsley Celtic (A), Droylsden (H) and Lancaster City (H).
Harrogate Town need to drop 5 points and have their goal difference significantly reduced in games against Droylsden (A) and Worcester City (H).
Hinckley United need to drop 10 points in games against Barrow (A), Hyde United (H), Lancaster City (H) and Blyth Spartans (A).
Hyde United need to drop 3 points and have their goal difference significantly reduced in games against Hinckley United (A) and Droylsden (H).
Farsley Celtic need to drop 6 points in games against Worksop Town (H), Workington (H) and Redditch United (A).
Blyth Spartans need to drop 1 point in games against Gainsborough Trinity (A), Lancaster City (A) and Hinckley United (H).
It’s still looking unlikely for City to reach the top five but it is still possible. Three of Tuesday's four matches have a bearing on City's fortunes.
Tuesday’s fixtures are:
Barrow v Hinckley United
Farsley Celtic v Worksop Town
Gainsborough Trinity v Blyth Spartans
Vauxhall Motors v Redditch United
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Post by villager on Apr 15, 2007 7:22:20 GMT
We've been pretty consistent over the last couple of years reaching 60 (7th) and 62 (8th) points.
Today we are on 59 points (8th place). In reality, the best we can hope for is to better previous points hauls for the season. I'd be happy with 63 points and 8th (again).
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Post by andy on Apr 15, 2007 9:13:49 GMT
Given the Lancaster factor, Kieran, I dont think we can expect anything to happen realistically regarding Workington and Hinckley, and it would be in our interests therefore if they both took maximum points in their games against Farsley, Hyde and Blyth.
In my view its all to play for between Harrogate, Hyde, Farsley, Blyth and ourselves for the fifth spot, and we are not in the box seat (although I dont know about ground gradings for any of those, but have heard various rumours over the course of the season relating to three of them).
I do seriously think we will win our last two games, but even so think we will end up getting pipped by Farsley.
Therefore a bit frustrating that yesterday, Lancaster had drawn level against Farsley, but the winning goal for Celtic came when the Lancaster 'keeper punched the ball into his own net!. Still, when you're clutching at straws ...
In a way I'm glad that Farsley have games against Worksop who will be even more deperate to get out of the relegation zone after yesterday, as may Redditch be last game of the season, and Workington still chasing the play-offs. But, I think they will end up getting in our way.
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Post by LeedsWCFC on Apr 15, 2007 23:17:23 GMT
Given the Lancaster factor, Kieran, I dont think we can expect anything to happen realistically regarding Workington and Hinckley, and it would be in our interests therefore if they both took maximum points in their games against Farsley, Hyde and Blyth. In my view its all to play for between Harrogate, Hyde, Farsley, Blyth and ourselves for the fifth spot, and we are not in the box seat (although I dont know about ground gradings for any of those, but have heard various rumours over the course of the season relating to three of them). I do seriously think we will win our last two games, but even so think we will end up getting pipped by Farsley. Therefore a bit frustrating that yesterday, Lancaster had drawn level against Farsley, but the winning goal for Celtic came when the Lancaster 'keeper punched the ball into his own net!. Still, when you're clutching at straws ... In a way I'm glad that Farsley have games against Worksop who will be even more deperate to get out of the relegation zone after yesterday, as may Redditch be last game of the season, and Workington still chasing the play-offs. But, I think they will end up getting in our way. I agree totally, Andy. The Dolly Blues have come close in games against sides towards the top of the table and may well have a victory or two before the season ends but we can rely on that no more than we can rely on any other result. Hinckley United appear to have a greater chance of finishing the season with a good run rather than a bad one and if that happens they can help us with victories over Hyde United and Blyth Spartans. That would leave us needing Harrogate Town and Farsley Celtic needing to drop enough points. You never know! |
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Post by darrellbutler on Apr 15, 2007 23:47:06 GMT
Regarding Harrogate, we'd need to beat them, so that's 3 dropped points, and the play Droylsden away, potentially the title decider I can't see them winning that. We only then have to worry about goal difference. A problem we should have eradicated yesterday.
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Post by darrellbutler on Apr 16, 2007 1:12:12 GMT
Droylsden 78 +28 --------------------- Kettering 78 +20 Hinckley 73 +13 Workington 72 +16 Farsley 67 +5 --------------------- Worcester 65 +15 Harrogate 64 +15 Hyde 63 +17 Blyth 62 +3 Using Iain Benson's Stalybridge website's predictions. I hope he'se's got it all correct with the exception of the Farsley win at Worksop. ;D |
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Post by villager on Apr 16, 2007 7:50:47 GMT
Stranger things have happened, but I still can't see it.
65 points yes (perhaps) and that would be our best in the CN.
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Post by prestonwcfc on Apr 17, 2007 20:54:45 GMT
Not sure if I've missed this somewhere, but what is the situation with teams around us, grounds being up to conference standard ? Does this open doors for us finishing 6th
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Post by LeedsWCFC on Apr 17, 2007 21:07:29 GMT
Not sure if I've missed this somewhere, but what is the situation with teams around us, grounds being up to conference standard ? Does this open doors for us finishing 6th Rumours abound about the suitability, or lack of it, of the grounds of Blyth Spartans, Farsley Celtic, Harrogate Town and Workington but I've yet to see anything "official" that could confirm that 6th place would be good enough for a play-off place. |
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Post by prestonwcfc on Apr 17, 2007 21:12:45 GMT
mmmmmmmmm Some more straws still to clutch at then !!!
Looks like it could be an interesting day at Harrogate, thank god I can now go !!!!
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Post by LeedsWCFC on Apr 17, 2007 22:56:18 GMT
After tonight’s games the latest situation is that if City manage to win the two remaining matches then we need four of the following scenarios to occur to let us into the play-offs:
Workington need to lose all their games against Farsley Celtic (A), Droylsden (H) and Lancaster City (H).
Farsley Celtic need to lose both their games against Workington (H) and Redditch United (A).
Harrogate Town need to drop 5 points and have their goal difference significantly reduced in games against Droylsden (A) and Worcester City (H).
Hinckley United need to drop 7 points in games against Hyde United (H), Lancaster City (H) and Blyth Spartans (A).
Hyde United need to drop 3 points and have their goal difference significantly reduced in games against Hinckley United (A) and Droylsden (H).
Blyth Spartans need to not win one or the other of their games against Lancaster City (A) and Hinckley United (H).
With Workington and Farsley Celtic having to play each other at least one of them will gain enough points to be out of City’s reach. Given that Workington have Lancaster City to play, and that anyone must realistically expect them to win that one, we need them to beat Farsley Celtic on Saturday and hope that Redditch United help us out on the last day.
The situation with Harrogate Town hasn’t changed. Come on you Bloods!
The Lancaster City factor also affects Hinckley United and Blyth Spartans so we need the Knitters to pull out of our reach but in so doing take points off Hyde United (but if they don’t we’ll need the Tigers to be stuffed by Droylsden) and Blyth Spartans.
If City beat Hucknall Town on Saturday then the only results that would remove the mathematical possibility of City reaching fifth place would be if Workington draw with Farsley Celtic and either Harrogate Town beat Droylsden or Hinckley United beat Hyde United, or if both Harrogate Town and Hinckley United win.
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Post by voiceofreason on Apr 21, 2007 18:54:06 GMT
Even if Hinckley & Workington do us a favour, there's no chance Blyth won't beat hapless Lancaster. Still, suppose mathematically it went to the last day.  |
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Apr 21, 2007 20:47:18 GMT
The thread somehow remains intact after today's fantastic set of results for the City !! Next week all we need is
City to beat Harrogate
Blyth not to win
Farsley and Hyde both lose
and City make the play offs in 5th on goal difference ! After today's results, can lightning strike twice ?
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Post by andy on Apr 21, 2007 21:07:18 GMT
Very interesting how other results are going.
Hyde can draw next week. They could even win, but we would have to win by a margin of 3 goals more than they win by. (Could have put that Hyde to bed today, if it hadnt been for their 'keeper). Seddon was sent off with a straight red today.
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Post by smog on Apr 21, 2007 21:13:54 GMT
well well well.... none of them have got easy games!! how hungry are droylsden?? we re due some luck at horrogate too!! i wish i could be there!
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Post by andy on Apr 21, 2007 21:22:06 GMT
To clarify, key games and results are
Harrogate v City (City MUST win - it will only matter by how many if Hyde win, in which case we have to win at least 4-0)
Redditch v Farsley (Farlsey MUST lose)
Hyde v Droylsden (Hyde could win, but their goal difference and goals scored means we must win by 3 goals more than they do, were they to win. But a draw or defeat means they definitely cant get 65 points)
Blyth v Hinckley (Blyth MUST NOT win)
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Post by smog on Apr 21, 2007 21:26:34 GMT
if hyde win dont we need to win by 4 more goals as they have scored more?
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Post by smog on Apr 21, 2007 21:28:00 GMT
i see 3 more!
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Post by blackpole on Apr 21, 2007 23:30:00 GMT
Including our game, 4 results have to go our way, which although we'd all love them to, can you really see it happening? Still, threads are always worth hanging on to .......
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Post by darrellbutler on Apr 22, 2007 10:00:01 GMT
We only need 3 other results to go our way. It happened yesterday. It can happen next week.
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Post by blackpole on Apr 22, 2007 15:41:06 GMT
4 INCLUDING ours ............ dippo
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Post by darrellbutler on Apr 22, 2007 15:43:16 GMT
All right then. All four results went our way yesterday. INCLUDING ours.
We can affect our results so they don't count.
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