Shareholder Democracy

[dave]

So we (the shareholders) now know what we are voting on at the AGM (and the subsequent EGM).

A long list of names as proposed Directors, and shareholders can democratically elect the people they want to move the Club forwards (old, new or a mixture of the two).

Dave Boddy and Jon Prescott have put themselves up for re-election at the AGM, and the EGM gives shareholder the chance to remove all 4 of the "old" directors, so shareholders will have had the chance to decide exactly who runs the Club in the future on 28th November.

Once the shareholders have voted and a new Board is in place, surely it must be time for everyone to either get behind the new board and try and help take the Club forward, or to walk away. A mandate is going to be given to whoever gets elected at the AGM/EGM and the power struggle will have to come to an end if this club is going to avoid imploding.

I am hoping the AGM and EGM will provide me with sufficient information about all the proposed Directors and what they would bring to the role, so that I am able to vote for those I think are best placed to take the Club forward at this time.

Despite what certain self-important "Walter Mitty" style fantasists may have you believe, I have yet to decide which specific invididuals I am going to vote for as Directors and which I am going to vote against.

There is a need for change and new blood on the Board undoubtably, and now we shareholders have a long list of candidates to choose from, and I am confident that after 28th November, whatever the result, we will have new faces on the Board who can help take the Club forwards.

[jimbo]

I think you may have to make your mind up as to which way you will vote beforehand.
Also, I am still waiting for someone to help me with the legalities of using proxy votes on behalf of my sons. Can anyone on here advise me if an e mail authorization from them will be ok or not

[Deleted]

JImbo, surely a signed statement to that effect is perfectly valid - it doesn't have to be a specific form? If it does then I'll scan mine in and email you that. Would this help?

[jimbo]

I'm sure you're right Ealing & thanks for the offer but I have recieved their proxy forms this morning. However my one lad is in Australia & works away quite a lot , getting a signed statement in time will be difficult. That's why I'm trying to find out if an authorization by e mail will be ok.

[wh]

Nov 8, 2008 12:46:36 GMT jimbo said:

I'm sure you're right Ealing & thanks for the offer but I have recieved their proxy forms this morning. However my one lad is in Australia & works away quite a lot , getting a signed statement in time will be difficult. That's why I'm trying to find out if an authorization by e mail will be ok.

Jimbo I have PM'd you a link to the an online copy of the forms. pass it on to your sons and get them to print off a copy, make their choice and sign it then they can get it scanned locally and email it back to you to print off and submit.

[jimbo]

Thankyou wh

[Deleted]

Nov 8, 2008 11:13:52 GMT @dave said:

So we (the shareholders) now know what we are voting on at the AGM (and the subsequent EGM).

A long list of names as proposed Directors, and shareholders can democratically elect the people they want to move the Club forwards (old, new or a mixture of the two).

Dave Boddy and Jon Prescott have put themselves up for re-election at the AGM, and the EGM gives shareholder the chance to remove all 4 of the "old" directors, so shareholders will have had the chance to decide exactly who runs the Club in the future on 28th November.

Once the shareholders have voted and a new Board is in place, surely it must be time for everyone to either get behind the new board and try and help take the Club forward, or to walk away. A mandate is going to be given to whoever gets elected at the AGM/EGM and the power struggle will have to come to an end if this club is going to avoid imploding.

I am hoping the AGM and EGM will provide me with sufficient information about all the proposed Directors and what they would bring to the role, so that I am able to vote for those I think are best placed to take the Club forward at this time.

Despite what certain self-important "Walter Mitty" style fantasists may have you believe, I have yet to decide which specific invididuals I am going to vote for as Directors and which I am going to vote against.

There is a need for change and new blood on the Board undoubtably, and now we shareholders have a long list of candidates to choose from, and I am confident that after 28th November, whatever the result, we will have new faces on the Board who can help take the Club forwards.

Correct, after the vote, dependant upon the outcome, we will either get behind the board or walk away.

I think however, you are wrong that the AGM and EGM will provide you with sufficient information about the proposed Directors, it would be nice if it was carried out in the manner of a debating society, but there's no requirement for that, so it won't happen.

As Jimbo says, you will have to make up your mind well in advance of that. I have already made up my mind based upon discussions I've had with all parties, some of them having taken place over the last 2/3 years. There is no way on earth that I could ever support Mr Boddy after something that happened just over a year ago, there's no way on earth I could support Mr Prescott after the way he has single handedly failed in every duty as a Director and as a Bar Manager. There is no way I could support any other present Director through their association. I simply do not believe that Mr Prescott is suddenly going to change the way he manages his club affairs, and considering that both he and Mr Partridge will step down at the end of January, why bother re-electing a couple of lame-ducks?

[Deleted]

I doubt if there will be any discussion allowed at the AGM. That's never been contemplated in the past - so why will they do that now? The usual tactic is to steamroll their ideas through with enough proxy votes to make democracy redundant. Don't expect anything different next week.

[creaner]

Nov 8, 2008 20:18:46 GMT @ealing said:

I doubt if there will be any discussion allowed at the AGM. That's never been contemplated in the past - so why will they do that now? The usual tactic is to steamroll their ideas through with enough proxy votes to make democracy redundant. Don't expect anything different next week.

Who is responsible for counting the proxy votes? I presume the proxy papers will be verified by an independent body to ensure they are all in order as it would not seem proper if those counting the votes were the same people who were being voted on.

[georgethebassett]

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Mr Partridge will step down at the end of January, why bother re-electing a couple of lame-ducks?
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Is he lame because he fell out of a (black) pear tree?

[richwidd]

Nov 8, 2008 11:13:52 GMT @dave said:

So we (the shareholders) now know what we are voting on at the AGM (and the subsequent EGM).

A long list of names as proposed Directors, and shareholders can democratically elect the people they want to move the Club forwards (old, new or a mixture of the two).

Dave Boddy and Jon Prescott have put themselves up for re-election at the AGM, and the EGM gives shareholder the chance to remove all 4 of the "old" directors, so shareholders will have had the chance to decide exactly who runs the Club in the future on 28th November.

Once the shareholders have voted and a new Board is in place, surely it must be time for everyone to either get behind the new board and try and help take the Club forward, or to walk away. A mandate is going to be given to whoever gets elected at the AGM/EGM and the power struggle will have to come to an end if this club is going to avoid imploding.

I am hoping the AGM and EGM will provide me with sufficient information about all the proposed Directors and what they would bring to the role, so that I am able to vote for those I think are best placed to take the Club forward at this time.

Despite what certain self-important "Walter Mitty" style fantasists may have you believe, I have yet to decide which specific invididuals I am going to vote for as Directors and which I am going to vote against.

There is a need for change and new blood on the Board undoubtably, and now we shareholders have a long list of candidates to choose from, and I am confident that after 28th November, whatever the result, we will have new faces on the Board who can help take the Club forwards.

Dave, I presume you have never been to a WCFC AGM before?

You will finally see how the Club works.

[salmon]

Can someone explain to me why Brown, Partridge and Prescott are putting themselves forward for relection if they are standing down at the end of jan 09, or is this another one of Boddy's ''The website will be back in 24hrs'' statements that is to try and think we'll forget about them when voting. I smell a rat somewhere.

[wh]

Nov 10, 2008 17:38:01 GMT salmon said:

Can someone explain to me why Brown, Partridge and Prescott are putting themselves forward for relection if they are standing down at the end of jan 09, or is this another one of Boddy's ''The website will be back in 24hrs'' statements that is to try and think we'll forget about them when voting. I smell a rat somewhere.

A large rat indeed have a look below at the red section.

[salmon]

Thanks WH, it's not rocket science to see what their up to, very sneeky!

[georgethebassett]

Paragraph 2 above: 'The Directors and it's advisors' - where shall I start with the grammatical errors?!

[dragon]

Do I take it that Colin Layland has been nominated by the Trust or by the existing Board.He can hardly represent the Trust if the latter is the case!

[Deleted]

The board would hardly nominate Colin!

[Deleted]

I believe Colin, like every other shareholder, has nominated himself. I am concerned about the total shabbiness shown by the Board - in particular the former chairman and secretary of the club regarding this General Meeting.
Firstly, is the meeting at 6.30pm? or 7.00pm?
Secondly, Whose general meeting is this? I have three different company numbers on my forms! The accounts show the number as 232010, the notice of AGM is for company number 231020, and my proxy form is for company number 231010!!
Considering that the board sought "legal representation" to dismiss the first tw ocalls for an EGM on the basis of errors on the forms, and as someone pointed out on here "quite rightly" refused the call, it is quite surprising that they should send out documents to shareholders littered with errors. I wonder whether these documents, and therefore the AGM has any validity?

[gobby cow]

That is a very good point Jem. I am sure they have a good reason for it, such as calling the vote etc null and void due to the errors and we have to go through the whole carry on again.

I trust the SHAG group are having these discrepencies looked into by legal council.

I dont trust the board further than I can throw them

[dragon]

It all sounds like Fred Karno`s Army to me but I guess it`s been like that for the past 50 years or so!

[Deleted]

Nov 11, 2008 12:12:07 GMT gobby cow said:

That is a very good point Jem. I am sure they have a good reason for it, such as calling the vote etc null and void due to the errors and we have to go through the whole carry on again.

I trust the SHAG group are having these discrepencies looked into by legal council.

I dont trust the board further than I can throw them

SHAG are simply making sure all their documentation is present and correct. I understand from some shareholders that the condescending way in which the present incumbents have even shown them how to put a tick in the "right" box has gone down like a lead balloon - typical of the disdain shown to shareholders, who they treat as being thick and incapable of ticking a box!!

[almasno9]

it's probably been done so the board have got a crib sheet to remind themselves who they should vote for when the time comes