Megalomania.

[Tony is not to despondent now.]

I have just looked up the word 'megalomania,' and in my eyes it fits the description of Dave Boddy.

"Megalomania" - A psychopathological condition involving fantasies of wealth or power."

Perhaps he should consult his doctor for treatment of the condition!!

[tim]

The doctor resigned, remember?

[Deleted]

"A stadium like Burton's"; "Athletico will be bigger than WCFC"; "The situation isn't as bad as you're led to believe". Are these the words of a megalomaniac?

[Deleted]

In which case DB is no megalomaniac. If you had fantasies of wealth and power, you wouldn't get involved with a non-league football club, where you'll get neither!!!

[cg]

I don't think DB is a megalomaniac or anything of the kind - just misguided and inept. ..but you can't lay all the problems at WCFC solely at his door - remember he has three other co-directors (two drawing a salary from the club it should be noted) and a long list of ex-directors who must also accept some share of the blame for WCFC being where they are now. They appointed him as chairman, as their spokesman and surely they knew about his past - Athletico and co. But this is no longer about the past - it is about the future and the sensible thing would be for the existing board to listen to their customers calls or call an AGM to offer shareholders their right to vote on who they want to run the club before creditors call time on the club. One of three will happen - question is, then what?

[tim]

No, DB is no megalomaniac. It's a bit like a liar really, you lie about something and then the lie catches you, so you lie again and again to try and get out of it, only the hole becomes deeper and deeper.

What DB and his board have done is make wrong decisions, and in trying to rectify those they have made more wrong decisions, and more, and more. They've dug themselves into a rather deep hole and can't see a way out besides throwing all their eggs in the "new ground" basket, and they've rather been victims of a combination of a market downturn and their own incompetence and prevarication. In a nutshell, they are way out of their depth and struggling, and it is sadly almost certainly past the point of no return.

[Deleted]

No-one minds mistakes as long as a) you recognise a mistake and b) you do something about it.

The WCFC board have recognised mistakes but then buried their heads in the sand. Take the Prescott situation. Talk to the likes of Mr Boddy, and he'll admit that the social club is a disaster, so what has he done about it? Absolutely nothing, buried his head, and the problem has just grown into a half million pound mountain! That is plain incompetence.
Its the same with the commercial side of things, I spoke with a Director who admitted that they've been useless on PR and marketing and that even the employed commercial manager was a disaster - he's now the Chairman!!! So what have the Board done about the PR and marketing problems? nothing!!
Isn't it amazing how none of these Directors, who have been there for over 10 years seen to have NEVER made a mistake. In that time I've made loads of errors in business, it happens, bad judgement calls, bad negotiation. Its cost me, its cost my company, its cost my bosses, but you learn from them and move on and hope not to make that mistake again.
Ten years and not a single mistake made or learned from - it means they havent learnt a thing!!!

[Mark]

Someone once said to me that someone who never does anything wrong, never does anything.

Very true I think.

[Deleted]

Correct - you don't have to look much further than the end of the bar in the anti-social club for a perfect example!!!

[cg]

Sept 29, 2008 11:45:17 GMT Down The Pan said:

No-one minds mistakes as long as a) you recognise a mistake and b) you do something about it.
Isn't it amazing how none of these Directors, who have been there for over 10 years seen to have NEVER made a mistake. In that time I've made loads of errors in business, it happens, bad judgement calls, bad negotiation. Its cost me, its cost my company, its cost my bosses, but you learn from them and move on and hope not to make that mistake again.
Ten years and not a single mistake made or learned from - it means they havent learnt a thing!!!

But there's a difference Jem - if you made enough mistakes and if you lost enough of your company's money you would lose your job.

These guys are directors - a director is supposed to lead and have judgement, but above all, is supposed to manage the business in the best interests of the shareholders.

Ever since they have been rumbled - on this messageboard and elsewhere - and their failings have become more and more obvious (and now seemingly reaching a critical mass) it is clear to see how poor the management of the club by the directors has been in so many ways - which is one reason those that remain have fought shy of publishing accounts and arranging an AGM - they daren't as they would risk being kicked out. In other words, they wouldn't keep their jobs.

The big problem is, in the process they have all but ground a much-loved local institution - Worcester City FC - into the dust.

[Deleted]

You have to realise it's not their fault! It's ours, well people like that trouble maker Brooksider and cg etc. If they just shut up and kept quiet all would be well.

[Tony is not to despondent now.]

cg said:

I don't think DB is a megalomaniac or anything of the kind - just misguided and inept. ..but you can't lay all the problems at WCFC solely at his door - remember he has three other co-directors (two drawing a salary from the club it should be noted) and a long list of ex-directors who must also accept some share of the blame for WCFC being where they are now. They appointed him as chairman, as their spokesman and surely they knew about his past - Athletico and co. But this is no longer about the past - it is about the future and the sensible thing would be for the existing board to listen to their customers calls or call an AGM to offer shareholders their right to vote on who they want to run the club before creditors call time on the club. One of three will happen - question is, then what?

cg. He is the chairman and should lead the board, which it appears he does. And in business if the chairman is not up to the job, as Boddy isn't, he takes the can, and generally gets dismissed.

[cg]

Oct 2, 2008 8:21:36 GMT Tony is not to despondent now. said:

cg. He is the chairman and should lead the board, which it appears he does. And in business if the chairman is not up to the job, as Boddy isn't, he takes the can, and generally gets dismissed.

But Tony are you suggesting that if DB resigned all else would be well at WCFC? Clearly not. What I am saying is that the other directors (past and present) elected Dave Boddy as chairman of the club, so if he isn't and hasn't been up to the job they too must shoulder some of the responsibility. He is not a Simon Jordan or Roman Abramovich, he does not own masses more shares than anyone else, (the constitution doesn't allow it) so he doesn't hold masses more sway.

I am not defending or excusing DB, (he chose to take on the role so has to accept the blame for any flak), what I am saying is that others supported him in leading the board and they must accept their share of the blame for what has happened. This should not be a one man witchhunt, and to accuse him of being a megalomaniac when clearly he isn't in the common sense of the term, does no one's argument any good whatsoever.

[georgethebassett]

Oct 2, 2008 9:00:54 GMT cg said:

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I am not defending or excusing DB, (he chose to take on the role so has to accept the blame for any flak), what I am saying is that others supported him in leading the board and they must accept their share of the blame for what has happened. This should not be a one man witchhunt, and to accuse him of being a megalomaniac when clearly he isn't in the common sense of the term, does no one's argument any good whatsoever.

Yes, it suited the 'powers behind the throne' to have DB take on the chairman's mantle, in the same way that John Major was elevated to a position he was patently unsuited to by more powerful figures within the Tory Party.

DB is no megalomaniac; he's a much sadder figure than that.

[tim]

If anything, he's Lancaster's fall guy...

[Deleted]

Dave Boddy is..................................Colt Seavers!!!

Well, I'm not the kind to kiss and tell,
But I've been seen with Farrah.
I'm never seen with anything less than a nine, so fine.

I've been on fire with Sally Field,
Gone fast with a girl named Bo,
But somehow they just don't end up as mine.

It's a death defyin' life I lead,
I take my chances.
I die for a livin' in the movies and TV.
But the hardest thing I ever do
Is watch my leadin' ladies
Kiss some other guy while I'm bandagin' my knee.

I might fall from a tall building,
I might roll a brand new car.
'Cause I'm the unknown stuntman that made Redford such a star.

I never spend much time in school
But I taught ladies plenty.
It's true I hire my body out for pay, Hey Hey.

I've gotten burned over Cheryl Tiegs,
Blown up for Raquel Welch.
But when I end up in the hay it's only hay, Hey Hey.

I might jump an open drawbridge,
Or Tarzan from a vine.
'Cause I'm the unknown stuntman that makes Eastwood look so fine.

[BDS]

It is possible that DB is being used but if he is a puppet two vital questions remain

a) whose hand is operating him? and
b) where is it inserted?

Yuk!

[Deleted]

Contrary to popular belief most puppets aren't controlled by a hand up the a**e - more in the middle of the back, just where the stabbing takes place.

They smile in your face.....................

[Tony is not to despondent now.]

cg. What I am trying to suggest is that if Booby, sorry Boddy resigned then his followers would perhaps do the decent thing also, as they would have no one to be a yes man to.

[Deleted]

But Mr Boddy isn't the one everyone is being a "yes man" to! He is also no more than a "yes man" on the board, but becuase he is the Chairman, and the public voice of the company, he is Colt Seavers, but he can't see it.
He couldn't see what shareholders could all see at the shareholder meeting. Whilst the puppet floundered on tangled strings, the puppetmaster was sleeping in the background, making no effort to assist his fall guy.

[Deleted]

Sometimes I get frustrated that no one tells the situation like it is - probably because they're scared of getting sued? Is Lancaster really in charge here? Or are others also involved - people from outside the club. Surely it's time to name names now.

[birdfeeder]

Oct 3, 2008 8:14:15 GMT @ealing said:

Sometimes I get frustrated that no one tells the situation like it is - probably because they're scared of getting sued? Is Lancaster really in charge here? Or are others also involved - people from outside the club. Surely it's time to name names now.

The man with the power outside the club as had his name mentioned on here a few times and the rugby club as named one of there hospitality suites after him?

[Deleted]

Of course Lancaster is still in charge - being a Director doesn't mean diddly squat, its a piece of paper and a few limited liabilities thats all!
And yes, Mr David Hallmark is very involved with the ground move, which is the only activity being pursued by the club, so it would be fair to say he has a great interest in the present club situation. I think it suits them for Mr Boddy to be portrayed as a figure of fun (forget the other three, they have absolutely no idea whats going on, and could do nothing about it if they did!) It keeps any heat well away from them. They'll hang Mr Boddy out to dry, he just doesn't see it.

[BDS]

Oct 3, 2008 8:14:15 GMT @ealing said:

Sometimes I get frustrated that no one tells the situation like it is - probably because they're scared of getting sued? Is Lancaster really in charge here? Or are others also involved - people from outside the club. Surely it's time to name names now.

Getting sued by who? If there is nothing to hide it can be proven but has not been - if not let them come.

[BDS]

Oct 2, 2008 13:46:42 GMT Down The Pan said:

Contrary to popular belief most puppets aren't controlled by a hand up the a**e - more in the middle of the back, just where the stabbing takes place.

They smile in your face.....................

My Lenny the Lion was a glove puppet

[Deleted]

So is Hallmark running the club? If so on whose authority? I wish those who know would speak - can any ex-directors shed light on the power structure at SGL?

[Tony is not to despondent now.]

Oct 2, 2008 9:00:54 GMT cg said:

Oct 2, 2008 8:21:36 GMT Tony is not to despondent now. said:

cg. He is the chairman and should lead the board, which it appears he does. And in business if the chairman is not up to the job, as Boddy isn't, he takes the can, and generally gets dismissed.

But Tony are you suggesting that if DB resigned all else would be well at WCFC? Clearly not. What I am saying is that the other directors (past and present) elected Dave Boddy as chairman of the club, so if he isn't and hasn't been up to the job they too must shoulder some of the responsibility. He is not a Simon Jordan or Roman Abramovich, he does not own masses more shares than anyone else, (the constitution doesn't allow it) so he doesn't hold masses more sway.

I am not defending or excusing DB, (he chose to take on the role so has to accept the blame for any flak), what I am saying is that others supported him in leading the board and they must accept their share of the blame for what has happened. This should not be a one man witchhunt, and to accuse him of being a megalomaniac when clearly he isn't in the common sense of the term, does no one's argument any good whatsoever.

No cg all is not well at the Lane and the resignation of Boddy would not put the situation right. But perhaps the rest would then see the light over the exit door.