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Post by tim on Sept 27, 2008 18:51:57 GMT
Losing today has blown the budget plans, no doubt.
Last one out remember to padlock the gate, eh?
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Post by ac on Sept 27, 2008 18:53:46 GMT
What was today's attendance?
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Post by tim on Sept 27, 2008 18:59:09 GMT
898
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Post by DazaB on Sept 27, 2008 18:59:26 GMT
898. I assume Tamworth brought 150 of them?
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Post by tim on Sept 27, 2008 19:00:28 GMT
About 120 or so I would have thought.
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Post by ac on Sept 27, 2008 19:06:47 GMT
Another poor attendance then, even if it's an increase on lately. And the Chairman still insists that there's nothing wrong.
I'm hoping to go next week- I want to see AFC Wimbledon and also see just how bad the "segregation" actually is, just for tragi-comedy value I think.
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Post by tim on Sept 27, 2008 19:25:54 GMT
We weren't the only Conf South team to bite the FA Cup dust today..... but I suspect we were the only one who budgeted to progress.
Maidenhead, Bromley, Chelmsford, Braintree, Fisher, Thurrock and Weston are all out too. Biggest shock of the day was probably Stafford Rangers losing at Coalville Town.
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Post by sh4un on Sept 27, 2008 19:28:41 GMT
Reeditch losing 4-1 to batetown (2 leagues below) . Im not too disheartened by losing because our prize money wouldnt of got far.
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Post by tim on Sept 27, 2008 19:30:09 GMT
Or even Belper Town. Wonder if Pat is still there?
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Post by sh4un on Sept 27, 2008 19:31:53 GMT
I wonder if Belper Town are richer than us?
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Post by tim on Sept 27, 2008 19:44:05 GMT
No, they aren't. They are a small well-run club with small gates but decent social facilities. We played there a few years ago in the Cup, the year we lost to Rushden down the Lane, they looked after us very well and had a spacious social club that is used for local functions. They live within their means and don't have delusions of grandeur.
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Post by sh4un on Sept 27, 2008 19:46:52 GMT
I dunno i been supporting city since i was 9 or 10. (im only 14) so i dont think i was around that year
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Post by Tony is not to despondent now. on Sept 28, 2008 8:56:52 GMT
No, they aren't. They are a small well-run club with small gates but decent social facilities. We played there a few years ago in the Cup, the year we lost to Rushden down the Lane, they looked after us very well and had a spacious social club that is used for local functions. They live within their means and don't have delusions of grandeur. Perhaps they don't have a Chairman that is power mad.
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Post by suv on Sept 28, 2008 9:54:49 GMT
Losing today has blown the budget plans, no doubt. Last one out remember to padlock the gate, eh? So do you think that the match we witnessed yesterday against Tamworth was the last ever FA Cup tie for WCFC ? or the last ever FA Cup tie at SGL? If so, what a miserable way to finish. A 1-0 home defeat, no shots on target and less than 1000 spectators to witness it. Season over ??
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Post by tim on Sept 28, 2008 11:13:14 GMT
The last ever FA Cup tie for WCFC as we know it. The Board needed to get through to survive.
There is of course an FA Cup tie at the Lane today, Evesham are playing aren't they?
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Post by suv on Sept 28, 2008 11:30:18 GMT
An attendance of 898. 20% (180 Spectators) Gate Receipts to the FA 40% (360 Spectators) Gate Receipts to Tamworth 40% (360 Spectators) Gate Receipts to Worcester City
Suggests more money was earned for the Monday night match against Braintree (580 Spectators) than the 2008 -2009 FA Cup "run"
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Post by tim on Sept 28, 2008 12:34:02 GMT
Sad but true.
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Post by BDS on Sept 28, 2008 18:05:16 GMT
The (reliable) £25,000 annual profits that could have been earned from a volunteer-run social club since Rich Widdowson offered a number of years ago (his application to become a Director was barred by the Board if you recall) are going to be missed more than take from a brief Cup run.
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Post by cg on Sept 29, 2008 7:54:09 GMT
Belper Town have built a new main stand (500 seats) and social club since the City played there a few years ago. The social club makes £30K a year which a director told me keeps the club afloat and funds the playing staff. Imagine if WCFC had made £30K profit for each of the last 10 years from a volunteer-run social club instead of paying a director £16K a year to run an "anti social club" which is an embarrassment to the club? That would have been half of the club's claimed debts quashed in one venture. It would be nice to know how directors past and present justify letting this income stream slip through their fingers.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2008 8:01:48 GMT
Then add the loss of catering income on top of that, and you start to see the crass incompetence of the board. Even if they were sure that the ground move would secure the future (idiotic though that was) why turn your back on other income sources? Lancaster, Prescott and the others need to answer some questions. For God sake go Boddy, take your cronies and GO! You are a laughing stock in this town.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2008 8:05:44 GMT
And the thing about a Social Club is that it is a ready made cashflow for 12 months of the year. Thats the real crime of this, the Directors plead poverty during the summer months, yet they've got a cash generator sitting under the stand!! Many years back when I was 16, I used to go to the rugby club from time to time, not to watch rugby, not to play rugby (although I did do that sometimes) but to go to friends parties in the old Social Club, it was nothing special, probably on a par with WCFC, but if I remember rightly a little smaller. We used to pack it, there'd be a disco, and soft drinks, and sometimes even catering laid on. We had some great parties up there, we didnt think about the revenue generated from it, we just had fun!! Even back then, no-one would even think about booking the football club, even though it would have saved loads of dads all the hassle of having to find the rugby club in the middle of nowhere late at night!!! Paying Prescott to run the Social Club (part-time at best) has probably cost the club somewhere in the region of half a million pounds - and Boddy thinks he's fit to be a Director!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2008 8:16:11 GMT
Then add the loss of catering income on top of that, and you start to see the crass incompetence of the board. Even if they were sure that the ground move would secure the future (idiotic though that was) why turn your back on other income sources? Lancaster, Prescott and the others need to answer some questions. For God sake go Boddy, take your cronies and GO! You are a laughing stock in this town. No - keep him in place, he's just so damn funny!! You read the Worcester News searching for the next episode in buffoonery from him. I loved the "Website back in 24 hours" episode, and the latest "the debt is £800,000, or is it £850,000, or is it......" episode is also very amusing. Add to that his sidekick Williams "I'll come back and be a Director later, okay??" and its funnier than Dads Army!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2008 8:17:13 GMT
If Boddy could understand how he's perceived he'd step down immediately. Nobody respects him any more - even the "only here for the football" supporters. It's over Dave. Get out now before the whole thing implodes. At least then you might leave some semblance of a club. You've painted yourself into a corner. It hasn't worked. Do the decent thing and step aside. That way you might at least regain some degree of respect.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2008 8:21:13 GMT
I couldn't get to the Whitehouse Hotel meeting, but I understand the Directors were there in force. If I'd got there I would have asked Jon Prescott "What have you done to promote the new Legends Bar??" So i'll ask him now "As the bar manager and Director in charge of the Legends Bar, what have you done to promote this venue?"
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Post by Tony is not to despondent now. on Sept 29, 2008 8:32:02 GMT
Why do the board of directors not set John Prescott a profits target to reach in his endeavours to run the 'Legends Bar? If he does not reach it then the proper action can be taken.
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Post by cg on Sept 29, 2008 8:32:10 GMT
I would like to know how they have justified borrowing money (whether it is loans, an overdraft extention or whatever), let alone how they would ever hope to persuade a body like the Football Foundation to part with public money to provide a grant for the supposed new ground, when such ineptitude at running what should be their most obvious cash generator has so obviously crucified the club. Is more of the same mismanagement part of their business plan for Nunnery Way? Do they even have a business plan for managing Nunnery Way? The simple answer is it doesn't matter anymore because the current regime won't make it there - if they do somehow manage to desparately hang on it will only be because they will have sold so many slices of club it will be completely and utterly worthless.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2008 8:40:38 GMT
How much are we locked into these various deals? Perhaps no one really knows, but if the papers for the sale of SGL have been signed then is there no going back? If not I assume we need to start looking at a future out of SGL and with no money either?
When, legally, do we have to have the AGM?
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Post by birdfeeder on Sept 29, 2008 8:40:53 GMT
IDIFF "I am jumping ship" would be the last person to have back on the board the mans all mouth,he knows the ship is sinking so he was the first rat to go.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2008 8:45:40 GMT
I actually don't think he even knew that, I don't think he had a clue what was going on. Mind you, anyone who says he has enjoyed working with Mr Boddy is clearly not fit to be a Director of the company!!! I don't think any new board will be beating a path to his door in the near future. However, the question is, what is going to happen with all of his new commercial initiatives? Ladies Day was the first of many wasn't it? Monthly business meetings were planned, a new club shop. All these exciting plans surely can't just go to waste. Would Simon Williams do the decnt thing and hand his business plans for commercial development over to the Supporters Trust??
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Post by BDS on Sept 29, 2008 13:40:03 GMT
Then add the loss of catering income on top of that, and you start to see the crass incompetence of the board. Even if they were sure that the ground move would secure the future (idiotic though that was) why turn your back on other income sources? Lancaster, Prescott and the others need to answer some questions. For God sake go Boddy, take your cronies and GO! You are a laughing stock in this town. A laughing stock in both Worcester and Ealing! Now thats impressive Its not just competence it is also a) the lack of democracy (where is the AGM and our right to vote for Directors?) b) the lack of transparency (What deal has been done on the ground? Is there really any sale at all? What deposit has been paid by Carey's?) c) the innacuracies (how much is the debt Mr Boddy? When will the AGM be held?) d) the failure to disclose fully and completely, and have approved by the shareholders the financial arrangements that the Directors have with the Club ( the recently filed accounts only mention Mr Brown but what about Mr Prescott and his reward for running the Social Club and do you expect me to believ that Mr Boddy obtains no precuniary advantage derived from his position as Chairman?) and e) the change of auditors (when and why did this happen? why is no relevant notice filed at Companies House?) The shareholders and supporters are not just questioning comptence they are questioning honesty and integrity. To all the world it appears that what we have is 4 people who represent about 10% of the ownership keeping themselves in positions from which they appear to derive financial benefit without a mandate, in charge of a major financial transaction outside their competence, and failing to account to the shareholders and fans in a timely and open fashion. The remaining Board can rest assured that their actions past and present will shortly be subjected to the closest independent scrutiny. If they have nothing to hide lets have the AGM. The Supporters Trust could apply to the Court for directions as to how the Club should be run to force the AGM to be held? If protest is not acceptable at SGL why not hold a vigil at the Chairmans's house? The Toon Army dont know how lucky they are. I tell you what I'd love it if we had Mike Ashley as Chairman love it!
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