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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 15, 2007 12:22:24 GMT
..and all the goalies down the years when the colour of a gk's jersey was only Red, White, Yellow or Green
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 14, 2007 20:47:31 GMT
because they are knackered from all the pre season friendlies ;D Perhaps its a case of quantity v quality. How can these games be made meaningful? OK you need one or two gentle openers to remove the rust but I think 3 or 4 pre-season matches would be enough to tune up the squad. Seasons opened with the SL cup rather than the lge a few eons ago. Perhaps the Worcs Sen Cup should become a pre season comp?
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 14, 2007 12:49:42 GMT
On a slightly more serious note why, after so many friendlies pre season, do teams not start the new league season truly match fit?
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 14, 2007 12:42:30 GMT
I am still in withdrawal from the old tea bar. At least the patches to stop the craving forWagon Wheels work quite well as does the WAGarette gum and I was a 60 a season man in my youth. (on 2nd thoughts maybe the gum stops you being unfaithful I'm not sure now..)
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 14, 2007 9:05:45 GMT
Who are they going to play?
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 19, 2007 11:25:33 GMT
Blimey something footbally to talk about. Huzzah!
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 18, 2007 10:22:33 GMT
We are waiting patiently.
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 14, 2007 9:17:09 GMT
We will play the same way as last season and Gill will go straight in to the back line.
I think we should open the seaosn with Webby, Wildthing and Dansky all starting. That to me is a statement of positive intent.
In an earlier thead someone made the point that adding a bit of pace at the back should allow us to be more attack minded and WWD on the field gives us the firepower to outscore the opposition.
We need to strengthen everywhere!
We will finish... dunno yet because it will depend on any new signings and injuries. But if we get two in who are as good as some of our better players we could make the play offs. If we improve our disciplinary record significantly that will offset, to some extent, the negative effects of injuries and be an improvement over last season.
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 11, 2007 9:52:56 GMT
Preston - City resigned from the Birmingham League at the end of the 1937/38 season to join the Southern league for 1938/39.
The reserve team played in the Birmingham League after the war (and won the title in one of the immediate post-war seasons) until the very early 60's I believe. I am not sure if the reserves competed in the BL in 1938/39 season.
The Inter-Zone Cup was a competition arranged to plug the gap in the fixture list in the season when the Southern league was regionalised and the number of league games reduced as there weren't enough sides at that stage to replace in fukll the fixtures from the previous season. The additional competition was, I believe, a first team competition and like you on the face of it should be in the Centenary history. No doubt there is a good reason why it is not! The IZC was a different comp. from the Southern League Cup.
As for whether programmes were produced for all BL and SL games who knows! The search goes on!
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 11, 2007 9:53:57 GMT
Shouldn't it be call the Phil Setanta Shield?
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 20, 2007 15:45:23 GMT
I am prone to proposing extreme views that I don't hold personally as perhaps from the ensuing debate / argument / prison sentence something constructive and interesting might emerge.
Ken Bates could probably fill a message board on his own. His career and business dealings were exposed somewhere a few years back (possibly by Mihir Bose?). I shall not make any comment other than to say I am glad that he is not at City!
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 20, 2007 11:07:30 GMT
Yes there is a report on the BBC website showing why the local authority didnt feel they could lift the restrictive covenant stopping the sale of the ground. All very interesting.
I am sure the Seadogs will return just as Telford have. Not sure about Boston but they will probably have to go through some sort of mystical transformation to harness the support that they undoubtedly have
The whole process of football clubs and administration and preferential treatment of football creditors stinks to me as what really happens is that financial mismanagement is not scrutinised in the way it might be if a club goes bust. An extreme view is that it is a charter for fraud.
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 20, 2007 8:29:03 GMT
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 20, 2007 8:26:01 GMT
But why would City not exist?. The Club would simply be playing somewhere else.
Private enterprise is providing public toilets and the government has just recognised this by forcing shops to allow the public to use their facilities without charge!
All property is theft as you very well know.
Land in the UK should be returned to the indigenous people. Kick the Normans out!
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 16, 2007 15:27:27 GMT
Thats called philanthropy, private enterprise would be You are given £1 to spend on sweets Today that buys you 4 Mars Bars, you go out and buy 4 inferior Marrz Barzz costing 2p each, you get a PR company to market the a**e off Marzz Barzz, you sell them for 30p each, you go back to your supplier and srew the last penny out of them and use you 96p plus the profit from your first 4 sales of £1.12 making £2.08 to buy a further 208 Marzz Barzz which you now sell at 40p each, raking in £83.20 from your original £1 investment. No one really feels happy apart from your shareholders, and when people are taken ill from eating inferior Marzz Barzz containing contaminated chocolate, you don't really care too much as the fines won't even dent your bottom line so long as you make some people redundant. Thats Private Enterprise. Now, how does all this apply to something like providing public toilets? or street cleansing? those kinds of profitless activities which private enterprise has no interest in being involved in? Can't you see why City would no longer be around without government? Where would the sentiment be that allowed prime building land to lie wasted by a football pitch, when you could profit from 500 units crammed on the site - no planning permission needed of course. Andy is right, there to be a balance however uneasy at times, and there has to be regulatory bodies and rules such as planning rules meaning we are all governed, the alternative really doesnt bear thinking about. Ealing couldnt build his radiators because the latest Neil Grinnall would have got there first. By the way I like the idea of Marzz Barzz, I like private enterprise. I 'm no far left loony believe me. What public toilets? In an age of ever increasing demand for such services due to an ageing population Public Lavvies are almost non-existent. What street cleansing? When I were a lad there was a nice old boy who used to sweep every pavement in Malvern and used to get free tea from the locals. This service stopped in in the late 60's / early 70s? Now you might get a gutter cleaning lorry once a season but that aint a lot of use when the streets are full of parked cars?` Perhaps you mean City Centre cleansing to sweep up the detritus of the nights drunken revels? A lot people dont live in City centres or cause this mess and object to paying for it? In any event it is almost useless as the streets of Cities re still full of vermin eating discarded KFC and the like at 3.30am. Still dont see why City wouldn't exist. The LA is irrelevant.
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 16, 2007 15:18:05 GMT
Can I have one of those Mars bar BDS? Of course. One shall be supplied I would give you my last Rolo if you wanted it but keep yer mitts of me Waggon Wheels!
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 15, 2007 12:18:09 GMT
The less the state involvement in the world the better. Planning, sport, litter, refuse collection, housing, education etc. You only have to look around to see the impact of state involvement in dire living environments, chaotic roads, incomprehensible laws, filthy hospitals, unrluy schools, overcrowded prisons, a housing crisis, et boring cetera. The more bureauprats there are the worse it gets. The worse it gets the more bureauprats are employed to "improve" things! Would you miss your local authority if it ceased to be overnight? Nah. Private enterprise would fill the gaps and cost us all less. At least things would get done - some for the worse and a lot for the better. I think we would move on from our time warp and become an enjoyable and freer place to live. If someone wanted to invest and build a giant radiator in the middle of Pitchcroft let them! A nice thought, but however poor British Rail was, they never ended up with executives facing corporate manslaughter charges due to deaths on the rail due to cost cutting measures. Private enterprise in the form of contracted out cleaning services in hospitals at lowest cost has led directly to deaths from MRSA and other superbugs which were unheard of a few years ago. Roads are built and maintained by private contractors, normally at lowest cost tender, hence the lack of organised planning of repair time and the lack of anything other than surface dressing on roads, cheap and not very cheerful. Unfortunately private enterprise wouldn't fill the gaps, unless there was a profit to be made from it, and if driving down cost and standards leads to bigger profits, then so be it. Would you miss your local authority? Well without it there would be no Worcester City. In allthe examples you have quoted where the private sector is pilloried can we be clear on who does what? a) the hospitals are run by the state who sets the standard and cost for the cleaning. They also manage the sub contractors. b) roads are built and maintained to standards laid down by government under contracts issued by government and supervised by government. The exception is the M6(T) which seems to me to be absolutely what we need much much more of. c) who runs the railways? I dont think the infrastructure has ever left state ownership has it? Who sets the standards and the inspection regime? Let me give you an example of government value for money (based on real life but without naming names). You are given £1 to spend on sweets. Today that buys you say 4 Mars Bars (say) at 25 p each. You go out and buy 4 Mars bars. You give them away and make 4 people happy. That is private enterprise. You are give £1 to spend on sweets. You have to decide which sweets. For this you need to draw up a plan and have it approved by 20 departments. Consultants are paid 10p to develop the plan. The plan is amended and has to be reapproved. You find out it is impractical and has to be re-done. This costs a further 5p in fees and 5p in salaries of the staff in the departments who have to be kept employed longer. In the meantime there is an annual increase in the price of Mars Bar to 26p. You need to procure your sweets so you go out to tender. You need to ensure that it is competitive and within EU rules and that all takes another 6 months. Mar Bars rise in price again to 27p. Your contractor is ready to buy a Mars Bar. The contractor needs a profit so he gets 10% of your budget for acting as your agent. So where are we? We started with £1. 10p has gone to the contractor who is buying the sweets. 20p has gone in planning how to buy the sweets and ensuring that all rules are met. Remaining cash 70p. Mars Bars cost 27p each so you can buy 2 and have 16p left over. You have made two people happy. The 16p goes on PR, reports, leaflets to tell people how you have managed their £1 so well. That is the public sector. It is a fascinating debate! Cant see why there would be no Worcester City without the local authority though?
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 14, 2007 20:40:10 GMT
The less the state involvement in the world the better. Planning, sport, litter, refuse collection, housing, education etc. You only have to look around to see the impact of state involvement in dire living environments, chaotic roads, incomprehensible laws, filthy hospitals, unrluy schools, overcrowded prisons, a housing crisis, et boring cetera.
The more bureauprats there are the worse it gets. The worse it gets the more bureauprats are employed to "improve" things!
Would you miss your local authority if it ceased to be overnight? Nah. Private enterprise would fill the gaps and cost us all less. At least things would get done - some for the worse and a lot for the better. I think we would move on from our time warp and become an enjoyable and freer place to live.
If someone wanted to invest and build a giant radiator in the middle of Pitchcroft let them!
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 14, 2007 9:04:54 GMT
It is more noughts out than there are in 00gly B00gly! But, hey, who's going to quibble over about ten orders of magnitude. A point is that there is uneven treatment of Clubs by Councils across the land, on planning and on recurrent financing. Tameside have consistently put 60K a year into non-league football as a year-on-year grant, which this year will go to just one Club. That is an amount worth about one third of our gate receipts. It would be like Worcester City Council paying our interest payments for us. Spot on Andy. There is a point beyond which rules produce more inconsistency not less. As for OB's point that local professional sports clubs not being a community based activity I can't disagree more. What is their raison d'etre? If there was no Telford United the local community would form AFC Telford and they did. Football clubs and the like provide a focal point for local pride. Frankly Government pays lip service to sport. Where are the publicly provided playing fields? School sports fields? Closed or sold. You cant play cricket in a health and fitness club gym. After all this we hope to win a bagful of Olympic medals? What is all that about? Not sport. It is about a masive ego trip and junket for politicians and they are stealing our money to provide it when the economics should mean that it is self financing. How about £20 Billion as the final cost? Anyone want a £1 on it?
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 13, 2007 8:12:08 GMT
Its just that Tone confesses to being a real football nut and Gord is seen recently posing to try and convince everyone that he is just a normal bloke who loves sport. In reality the Government make absurd planning rules that measn that Cities like Worcester cant seem to get a decent soccer stadium and that Councils operate under a set of administrative burdens that make it difficult for them to reach a decision that might be obviously the right one.
Clearly we cannot expect public money to be thrown down the drain of mismanagement and it may be that the Club's proposal was simply unworkable. Sometimes there is a case for using public funds to support a community based actvity but I believe that the rules under which local authorities operate make it difficult to achieve this in practice. her ether eis a relocation proposal thwarted, on the face of it, by petty planning rules. Do people not know that only 5% of the country is built on? We are not short of land!
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 12, 2007 12:37:01 GMT
Good of the Council that. Really helps build a community that sort of short sighted initiative. Thanks Tone Thanks Gord!
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 11, 2007 9:44:34 GMT
Hurrah - a home game! (well its under 100 miles)
Been before. Typical result a 4-1 defeat!
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 8, 2007 9:32:07 GMT
yes Andy with only 5 or so weeks to the first pre season match "time is tight".
You rightly pointed out some time ago that we dont want the team to be in a state of flux (again) during the key Augsut / September period with its heavy loading of league fixtures.
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 7, 2007 10:12:20 GMT
I see that Gary walker has signed up on non contract terms.
I haven't really seen him so can't comment but reports say he has promise. Only Troy Wood and Shaun Findlay left to make up their minds.
Still no new signings.
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 7, 2007 10:04:51 GMT
public transport
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 5, 2007 13:20:48 GMT
prizes (tho I dont know where that comes from?)
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 5, 2007 13:09:33 GMT
wonderfullcity you make an interesting point about the ability to take more attacking risks with more pace at the back.
I really hope that this proves to be the case at home next season as despite a good home record since the turn of the year I feel we could have been more adventurous at home and it would have given us a few extra points.
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 4, 2007 14:29:53 GMT
Agree about the lack of numbers in midfield.
Dont really care if Colley and Khan sign as long as they are not regular starters next season. If they are in our best starting XI come August then we wont be going up in 2007/08.
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 4, 2007 12:17:43 GMT
Good news about George!
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Jun 22, 2007 11:26:21 GMT
Its not arguable Tim it is fact! An excellent ditty much loved and admired from near and far and widely copied. Witty, clean and insulting (in the nicest possible way) especially from the fans of a club with arguably one of the largest garden sheds in the world nestling comfortably in the corner of the Lane
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