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Post by richwidd on Aug 3, 2017 15:58:04 GMT
Its the way it is, nothing happened at Hereford until the fans said "no more" Same at Enfield, same at pretty much every club where there has been reformation. Football clubs are no different to any other business, would you keep buying goods from a company who you knew were being run into the ground by its Directors? Those troublemakers over at Hereford didn't give up and they battled on regardless. Even at the point when it was 100% clear that the "owner(s)" were in it for one thing and one thing only, stating they loved the club was more than enough for some people. No matter how crooked it got, there were people who refused to accept it and there were people a bit like Downthelane, in fact a lot like downthelane muttering "You lot never kiss the badge" "You're causing trouble by not believing in fairies". Our Chairman doesn't even say he "loves the club" and all that, "Your Stuck with me' is his mantra. This was three years ago, not long after the game we arranged over at Malvern Town. Whatever happened to them? I bet they all regret it now!
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Post by stgeorge on Aug 3, 2017 18:28:54 GMT
I'm all up for boycotting home games and protesting against the board but I doubt many others will. What we need is a strong opposition to the current regime but unfortunately I don't think we have that. Should it be the supporters trust who protest? The issue with that is I don't really see the trust has an identity. How many members are there, i don't even know if I'm a member? If I was what does that achieve? The whole Perdiswell application is commendable but why not reach out fo for extra help. It seems like there are 4 or 5 people trying to do everything when there is a whole load of help out there if they want it
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Post by oxford on Aug 3, 2017 18:44:11 GMT
The proof will be in the pudding when the first few home attendance's are known. I think there may be quite a few people, myself included,who will not be attending home games. It is all up to the individual at the end of the day.
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Post by cloud on Aug 4, 2017 8:49:09 GMT
The Trust, in the Barry Ward Shareholder's Action Group era a long time ago, first proposed the Cinderella Ground as being a venue to play at. Was this on the list of sites visited this year by the trust/club/council (& turned down as not being suitable)?
It's due to be revamped & opened in the next few years for football & cricket.
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Post by bj on Aug 4, 2017 10:54:40 GMT
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Post by jupu on Aug 4, 2017 11:37:37 GMT
The Trust, in the Barry Ward Shareholder's Action Group era a long time ago, first proposed the Cinderella Ground as being a venue to play at. Was this on the list of sites visited this year by the trust/club/council (& turned down as not being suitable)? It's due to be revamped & opened in the next few years for football & cricket. The site is being developed as a community sports facility in partnership with Heart of Worcestershire College. This includes a new changing facility, football pitches and cricket square, so on the basis that there was already a scheme to revamp the site I don't think it could have been a possible venue for a stadium.
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Post by Woodenose on Aug 4, 2017 13:27:43 GMT
Yes an interesting read.Thanks
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Post by Mark on Aug 4, 2017 14:23:20 GMT
The proof will be in the pudding when the first few home attendance's are known. I think there may be quite a few people, myself included,who will not be attending home games. It is all up to the individual at the end of the day. I don't intend to go to home games either
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Post by Tim Munslow on Aug 5, 2017 8:48:21 GMT
You won't keep me away from them!
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Post by oxford on Aug 5, 2017 16:57:28 GMT
I have no desire to Tim.Your choice.
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Post by jimbo on Aug 5, 2017 21:12:45 GMT
I have full respect for your decision Tim, along with anyone else 'dedicated' to 'City' who wants to see ur team play. But, in my opinion EVERYONE like myself should be boycotting home games & show their support away !!
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Aug 6, 2017 12:39:38 GMT
There will always be people who go no matter what, which is fair enough, if they are comfortable having their club used for nefarious purposes behind the scenes, whilst being screwed into the ground by shifty and criminal individuals, then that's their choice. Its one of the reasons that criminals target football clubs as a front, they can get away with murder and the fans won't stop them, as long as a team plays on a Saturday, who cares about the property development scams, and the money laundering. Look how easy it was for George Reynolds at Darlington, and the Oystons are still at it at Blackpool. If fans hadnt forced the issue, Tommy Agombar would still be screwing over Hereford United. The list of clubs who have disappeared due to the activities of their Directors and owners is long and scary, and sometimes after the club had gone the scoundrels moved to another club, would anyone really want Eren or Sami Muduroglu involved in their football club? But its so easy for these shysters, because fans let them get away with it, so long as 11 players show up on the pitch (paid or unpaid) everyone gets their football fix.
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Post by Noboddy aka Lord Ealing on Aug 6, 2017 17:26:06 GMT
What good will doing nothing; waiting and seeing; and attending matches achieve? The sun might come out tomorrow but a team called Worcester City won't. If there's one characteristic I attribute to Worcestershire it's apathy. The population puts its head in the sand and gets terrible urban development; awful traffic systems and no football club.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Aug 6, 2017 20:04:09 GMT
And lets face it, away games aren't much of a travel distance this year, its basically the West Midlands and Shropshire. So you could see plenty of games, cheer on the lads, and not put money into the pockets of the four shysters, Hampson, Layland, Wilcox and Pinches. Those four deserve nothing for what they are doing to kill our club.
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Post by wr4wolf on Aug 6, 2017 20:31:22 GMT
Who, you are making some serious allegations against the current board. If these are correct why is nothing being done about it? You are moaning about people continuing to put money into club but what are we supposed to do. Many of you seem to think by boycotting games the club will fold and then you can start again. I've said before many will continue to go regardless as aren't aware of the full picture. Tell us what is going on or go to the authorities if there is criminal activity. At the recent trust meeting Dave Woods told us he was willing to try one last time with the board. Is this happening? Let's put some pressure on these clowns and show them up for what you say they are. We need an action plan!!
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Aug 6, 2017 21:27:02 GMT
Nothing is being done about it because being crap at running a business is not an offence. Trying to prove any criminal activity within the running of a small business, especially a business based predominantly on cash transfer such as football is virtually impossible. What is going on? Thats a question we'd all like an answer to, what exactly is going on. Where has the money gone? Why will Hampson, Layland, Wilcox and Pinches not present any information to shareholders, particularly at a time when the club has dropped 3 leagues, had to put all the players up for sale, and the auditor has refused to audit the accounts? Why won't the club give shareholders any information regarding Parsonage Way? They have been in discussion with the city council, certainly for the last 7 months, possibly longer. What has happened in that time? What feasibility studies have been done? What do the plans look like? When are they likely to go for planning consent? How much is the Parsonage Way planning process going to cost the club? During this time, why did Hampson. Layland Wilcox and Pinches act so duplicitously by pretending to be backing the Perdiswell proposal? Why has Hampson Layland Wilcox and Pinches been telling the media that they believe that the only way forward for the club is community ownership, yet they have done nothing at all to work out how community ownership even works. These 4 are killing the club, and in the opinion of some of us, it is now past the point of saving in its present guise. Without a change of constitution (even to allow a benefactor in!) the club cannot raise money. Last year it raised £150 in share capital! However the four directors continue to do nothing, but lose whatever is left over from the sale of SGL. And when that is gone? Whats the plan? Mark Wilcox, tell us, whats the plan when the SGL money has all gone? We have a choice of a long lingering death, or a faster death. Either way the end result is the same. One interesting question which is going to be asked quite shortly is, how much exactly did the Board sell St Georges Lane for?
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Post by Croc on Aug 6, 2017 22:38:14 GMT
If you do not take in that last posting and understand what is being said - then all is lost...
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Post by rushwickdon on Aug 7, 2017 7:41:00 GMT
Sorry to be pedantic, yet the last ST meeting was at the end of June, at which Dave Woods said that he would go back to the Board in the next four weeks, try to make them see the advantages of community ownership, and then we could reassess the next move. I may be incorrect, but it appears that nothing is happening in this regard, and we are six weeks further on.
As we all know (well, most of us), time is not a plentiful commodity.......
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Post by voiceoftreason on Aug 7, 2017 7:51:06 GMT
Since the last Trust forum the planning refusal has been confirmed and the BoD of the FC has publicly distanced itself from any proposed appeal and thrown its weight behind some a proposal to locate a stadium at Parsonage Way.
I think a Trust forum is needed ASAP to discuss next steps. Do those with shares now look to force the EGM? What resolutions would be put at the EGM? How much would the appeal cost? Is there any point in appealing?
All questions the Trust memebership need to consider and debate
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Post by Noboddy aka Lord Ealing on Aug 7, 2017 8:05:15 GMT
Who asks what the plan is once the money from SGL has been siphoned off. Perhaps the board will send us a postcard from the Bahamas saying "Having a lovely time, thanks for everything.". But then again I doubt they'll bother.
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Post by Woodenose on Aug 8, 2017 7:35:13 GMT
VICE-chairman Colin Layland remains upbeat about Worcester City’s future, insisting he is “very positive” the cash-strapped club will not fold. He also revealed City’s chiefs were planning to hold an annual general meeting after getting new accountants on board......Taken from todays Woorcester News on Line
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Post by voiceoftreason on Aug 8, 2017 17:37:41 GMT
The article in full... www.worcesternews.co.uk/sport/15459016.Vice_chairman_Layland_positive_over_City_s_future_and_says_club_will_hold_AGM/?ref=mrb&lp=19An AGM at an unspecified point "in the future," no indication how much is left in the bank, no clues how close we are to seeing a planning application for Parsonage Way. An article that tells us f*ck all we didn't already know. This quote is telling... “We could obviously do more for the future and any future ground we might have we need to have some money to pay for that." A future ground we MIGHT have?! Here is another gem... "No way will the club fold. I can never guarantee but I am feeling very positive that won’t happen" The guy is a joke.
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Post by Woodenose on Aug 9, 2017 15:30:38 GMT
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Post by Noboddy aka Lord Ealing on Aug 9, 2017 16:16:42 GMT
They probably will if the side is successful. What he doesn't seem to acknowledge is Hereford rose again because they still have their ground. We have nothing, thanks to the board.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Aug 9, 2017 17:20:17 GMT
He's also completely missed the fact that Hereford reformed with a new constitution, new revenue streams and an optimism from supporters who had successfully fought off those killing the club. He has also missed the fact that the new Hereford were able to generate revenue to operate with a playing budget of 10 times that of City's this season He also missed the fact that City would be incapable of operating at a level two up from where we are now under the present constitution due to the lack of revenue generation, and that he has consistently voted against any constitution change. And to add to the facts that he has missed, based on calculations of averaged gate money per head, City will need twice the number of fans at every game, win lose or draw, just to get close to income generated from gate money last season. For a Director of the club, he doesn't know much, does he?
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Post by voiceoftreason on Aug 9, 2017 18:32:14 GMT
To be fair he didn't notice his wife was shagging the chauffeur when she was the Mayor of Worcester so I am not surprised he is blind to the mess the finances are in!
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Aug 19, 2017 15:57:01 GMT
There will always be people who go no matter what, which is fair enough, if they are comfortable having their club used for nefarious purposes behind the scenes, whilst being screwed into the ground by shifty and criminal individuals, then that's their choice. Its one of the reasons that criminals target football clubs as a front, they can get away with murder and the fans won't stop them, as long as a team plays on a Saturday, who cares about the property development scams, and the money laundering. Look how easy it was for George Reynolds at Darlington, and the Oystons are still at it at Blackpool. If fans hadnt forced the issue, Tommy Agombar would still be screwing over Hereford United. The list of clubs who have disappeared due to the activities of their Directors and owners is long and scary, and sometimes after the club had gone the scoundrels moved to another club, would anyone really want Eren or Sami Muduroglu involved in their football club? But its so easy for these shysters, because fans let them get away with it, so long as 11 players show up on the pitch (paid or unpaid) everyone gets their football fix. It's just a crying shame Michael Knighton didn't manage to wreck Man Ure though...😉
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