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Post by citytoon on May 26, 2017 10:13:05 GMT
I have a healthy flag kitty which was very kindly funded by Kiddy (after a little legal persuasion through the courts) which is burning a hole in my pocket. If anybody thinks that can be put to good use then let me know. I am sure that my Eastern European flag making friends would be more than happy for some more business
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Post by Mark on May 26, 2017 12:59:45 GMT
There's also the question of things like Team Builder and Gold Bond competitions, both of which I take part in. I have been giving serious consideration to quitting these recently but I would welcome opinions on whether it would be best to do so or if I may as well carry on.
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Post by Croc on May 26, 2017 13:30:52 GMT
I have a healthy flag kitty which was very kindly funded by Kiddy (after a little legal persuasion through the courts) which is burning a hole in my pocket. If anybody thinks that can be put to good use then let me know. I am sure that my Eastern European flag making friends would be more than happy for some more business Something along the lines of: Mr Hampson & Tory Councillors Parsonage WHY?
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Post by Noboddy aka Lord Ealing on May 26, 2017 14:25:14 GMT
There's also the question of things like Team Builder and Gold Bond competitions, both of which I take part in. I have been giving serious consideration to quitting these recently but I would welcome opinions on whether it would be best to do so or if I may as well carry on. I dropped these immediately after the Agm at Nunnery, as I know many others did. It just helps cash flow Hampson.
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Post by Bonzo Bitburg on May 26, 2017 17:04:32 GMT
I don't think the trust ought to get involved with any boycotts. It risks setting a section of the supporters (including trust members) against the trust and giving Hampson a stick to beat the trust with. Remember the red card protest (I don't I was boycotting at the time ). I believe it wasn't terribly successful.
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Post by jimbo on May 26, 2017 23:01:08 GMT
There's also the question of things like Team Builder and Gold Bond competitions, both of which I take part in. I have been giving serious consideration to quitting these recently but I would welcome opinions on whether it would be best to do so or if I may as well carry on. These funds go directly into the clutches of the board...... Do you really need opinions ??
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on May 27, 2017 0:53:59 GMT
The Supporters Trust, as a CBS , is democratic, and each member has a vote and each member has a say. If a member of the Supporters Trust wishes the Board to convene a meeting of members to discuss this, then they should contact a Board member. As is their right. The Supporters Trust Board can't make that decision on behalf of its members. So, members , do you want to convene a meeting to discuss and debate future actions?
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Post by Fred on May 27, 2017 7:10:04 GMT
NO..the Trust should put their energy into the planning application and then look to take further action one this has been heard.
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Post by jupu on May 27, 2017 7:33:56 GMT
I agree with the above. I don't think the Trust should be telling fellow supporters what to do. Boycotting is entirely a personal decision in my view.
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Post by oxford on May 27, 2017 7:41:51 GMT
Agree with that. Personally,and I don't mean this disrespectfully, I don't need the trust ,or anyone else,to tell me what to do.
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Post by creaner on May 27, 2017 7:53:01 GMT
My personal view is that the trust should focus on community ownership. And being the miserable bugger I am then if someone told me to do something I'd probably do the opposite!
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on May 27, 2017 7:57:02 GMT
NO..the Trust should put their energy into the planning application and then look to take further action one this has been heard. I agree. The planning application for Perdiswell is the next milestone on this journey. It would be hard for a Supporters Trust to advocate not supporting the team even if by doing so that support underpins and lengthens the tenure of the unwanted regime at board level. It seems quite likely that supporters will vote with their feet anyway given the triple relegation, the failure of the directors to provide unequivocal and loud support for Perdiswell and desperate bungling of recent months. Even ignoring events before 👑 Carl's departure the incompetence and lack of any management skills displayed by the board since he left ought to be enough to persuade a number of fans that giving money to Hampson & Co is money utterly wasted. Staying away is not the only form of protest but if change at the top of our club is what people want then it is the hardest hitting option.
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Post by The Verner on May 27, 2017 8:14:12 GMT
Agree with the above.
We should be focussing soley on the application and nothing else.
If people want to boycott then they can, if they want to continue supporting the team then they can.....personal preference.
Our members will agree that all effort should be put into Perdiswell...our members voted for us to get on with Perdiswell so lets see it over the line.
Anything else can wait !
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Post by rushwickdon on May 27, 2017 8:25:36 GMT
I come from a slightly different angle on this. Mass boycotting of home games would deliver a really strong message that people are simply fed up of being lied to by a board who have no regard for its own supporters.
In fact, I'd go further. The farce that means that it will cost more to watch City v Bromsgrove than Bromsgrove v City AT THE SAME GROUND needs to be highlighted for what it is. Contacting supporters of other teams, asking them not to attend the City away game will further underline the commitment of trying to starve the board of any income.
Some will point out that no money equals poorer players and probable further relegation. This has become- in fact has been for years- far more about things off the pitch than on.
People are surely intelligent enough (even the WN?) to see that a boycott of home games runs far deeper than football fans not wanting to support the players.
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Post by The Verner on May 27, 2017 9:02:57 GMT
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Post by thesecondjack on May 27, 2017 9:12:38 GMT
I wouldn't be for a Supporters Trust led boycott, as I don't believe it is the role of the Supporters Trust.
After last years EGM there was confusion including by myself as to the Trusts position on attending games and volunteering with the club, as some trust board members stopped helping the club in various ways.
To be clear, the position to date has been that it is a personal choice if you turn up to games, or boycott games - take part in the gold bond, or stop your order - volunteer your time to the club, or not.
I believe the Trust should remain in that same position. Don't tell people to attend - don't tell people to boycott. It's your own decision.
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Post by zeke on May 27, 2017 9:43:38 GMT
Surely, these prices are going to accelerate the demise of the club? It seems to me that everything since Carl left has accelerated the end of the club. Voluntary relegation of a few divisions long before the end of the season. Now the highest gate prices in the league. Throwing Parsonage into the mix.
It seems to me that it doesn't matter if nobody turns up to games. The money will run out as fast as the board can spend it. Boycotting will probably help the last few quid disappear before the club can be saved.
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Post by Noboddy aka Lord Ealing on May 27, 2017 9:48:46 GMT
Having thought about this I agree with the view that the trust shouldn't issue a boycott, although it could advise or suggest this approach to members.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on May 27, 2017 11:48:59 GMT
Agree with the above. We should be focussing soley on the application and nothing else. If people want to boycott then they can, if they want to continue supporting the team then they can.....personal preference. Our members will agree that all effort should be put into Perdiswell...our members voted for us to get on with Perdiswell so lets see it over the line. Anything else can wait ! Sorry, but what right have you to say what " our members" will agree with, without even giving "our members" the opportunity of being involved? That is the kind of crass and arrogant comment that I would expect to be hearing from the club Board.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on May 27, 2017 12:20:58 GMT
I wouldn't be for a Supporters Trust led boycott, as I don't believe it is the role of the Supporters Trust. After last years EGM there was confusion including by myself as to the Trusts position on attending games and volunteering with the club, as some trust board members stopped helping the club in various ways. To be clear, the position to date has been that it is a personal choice if you turn up to games, or boycott games - take part in the gold bond, or stop your order - volunteer your time to the club, or not. I believe the Trust should remain in that same position. Don't tell people to attend - don't tell people to boycott. It's your own decision. That might be your belief, but your belief is irrelevant, as is mine The Supporters Trust is a democratic organisation with ALL members having an equal opportunity to make their voices heard. To be clear, the position to date was taken before the beginning of last season, when the football club was still at Step 2, prior to relegation, resignation and demotion to Step 5. The position was taken before it was found that the club Board have been duplicitous in their actions towards the Supporters Trust in terms of Perdiswell, and the secret talks with the council over Parsonage Way. The position was taken before the club decided to release a statement in March, including comments from the Supporters Trust in support of Parsonage Way, even though the Supporters Trust were not even aware of any talks over the scheme. The position was taken before even FY16 accounts were presented, showing the biggest loss in the history of WCFC, £30,000 more than we had been told by the Chairman at the previous AGM, when he already knew the financial position, he deceived shareholders. The position has completely changed, and I believe that Supporters Trust members have the right know more about the present situation, and for ST members to make that decision as to the new position of the ST. The Supporters Trust is a CBS, which provides one member one vote, and supposedly all members a right to have a say in the running , and the policies, of the Supporters Trust. What has happened since the end of the season has been a game changer, so why don't the ST try something radical, and give ST members the opportunity to make a decision as to what direction is taken next?
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on May 27, 2017 12:23:33 GMT
Agree with the above. We should be focussing soley on the application and nothing else. If people want to boycott then they can, if they want to continue supporting the team then they can.....personal preference. Our members will agree that all effort should be put into Perdiswell...our members voted for us to get on with Perdiswell so lets see it over the line. Anything else can wait ! And what exactly do you mean by " all effort should be put into Perdiswell" ? Doing what?
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Post by jimbo on May 27, 2017 12:31:34 GMT
Well what a bunch of bloody idiots, I had considered going to home games this year. This however confirms the continuation of my boycott....... Well done Hampson & your band of robbing thoughtless b*****ds !! Perhaps it's time for the trust to recommend a mass boycott of supporting home games & possibly arranging transport to away games. As if you're not doing enough work for us already Well this post appears to have opened a can of worms. However if you read it, you will find no suggestion that the trust tell anyone what to do or what not to do; I simply suggested that it might be a good time for the trust to recommend a mass boycott.
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Post by lancashirelad on May 27, 2017 13:56:36 GMT
I have no intention of doing so either but I do Intend do do some away fixtures as I don't want to lose touch with friends I have had for many years. Don't mind spending a few bomb at someone else's club. At least they might be run properly!Although I don't agree with them I can,grudgingly, see why some fans will still go.I'm not from Worcester so I can get off to Sutton without feeling too guilty. Must be much harder for a native Worcester person. Agree with you 100% Oxford - I'll probably do the same and go to some away matches. I'm Worcester born and bred, but have lived in Lancashire since 2002, so don't feel guilty that most Saturdays I'll be watching my (new)local team Chorley FC, whose 2 Chairman are a credit to know and a million miles away from the Worcester board.
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Post by Bonzo Bitburg on May 27, 2017 15:27:37 GMT
Well what a bunch of bloody idiots, I had considered going to home games this year. This however confirms the continuation of my boycott....... Well done Hampson & your band of robbing thoughtless b*****ds !! Perhaps it's time for the trust to recommend a mass boycott of supporting home games & possibly arranging transport to away games. As if you're not doing enough work for us already Well this post appears to have opened a can of worms. However if you read it, you will find no suggestion that the trust tell anyone what to do or what not to do; I simply suggested that it might be a good time for the trust to recommend a mass boycott. But only if members vote for it.
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Post by Mark on May 28, 2017 16:33:12 GMT
There's also the question of things like Team Builder and Gold Bond competitions, both of which I take part in. I have been giving serious consideration to quitting these recently but I would welcome opinions on whether it would be best to do so or if I may as well carry on. These funds go directly into the clutches of the board...... Do you really need opinions ?? No........dont know why I asked really
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