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Post by wr4change on May 13, 2017 21:18:13 GMT
I have read many, many posts on this banter board in recent years and it clearly evident that WCFC has countless Supporters who love and care for this club and the role that it plays in their lives and the wider community. I cannot fault the passion and support that so many of you have for WCFC. There have clearly been far too many mistakes and errors of judgement made by both previous and the current Board of Directors, these mistakes have caused this club to now find itself with no ground, based outside the City that bears its name, with dwindling revenues and funds in the bank and faced with having to play next season in the MFL. All of the above have been as a result of mis-management, possible illegal, corrupt and unprofessional behaviour by those in charge. However, despite all of the above as a club we find ourselves with a Football Management Team (Snape, Hughes and hopefully Jackman) that will be the envy of all of the other clubs in the MFL. How many other teams at this level have a Lee Hughes with a wealth of Premier League experience and contacts ? Is is it not time to draw a permanent line under the issues surrounding the sale of SGL, the payments to St Modwens, the disgraceful way in which the wool was pulled over everyone's eyes as we were relegated ? Surely we should all be saying lets gets together, support the lads, buy season tickets, get behind Snapper, Hughsie and Jacko and have a great season in the MFL  ? As the title to this thread says "We are where we are" let's enjoy a season where we will score more goals, visit new grounds, win more games and maybe have a decent run in a cup like the FA Vase. There is far too much infighting at this club, I am not going to pin my colours to The Board (certainly not) but I'm not going to say any one party be it The Board, The Trust or anyone else has all the answers, but believe me if people don't pull together then in a few seasons from now we may wish we were in the MFL as its better than being two or three leagues lower. So let's stop pointing the finger and get behind this once proud club and move forward as best we can, let's support the team. |
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on May 13, 2017 21:53:01 GMT
I agree that the future is what matters.
How that future is shaped is the issue.
If the past is any guide then clearly the company that runs the club cannot be trusted. If that be the case then supporting that company is simply a waste of time and money. Save your money, or just go to away games, and pledge it to the future of our club. That future will be a fan owned club. The level we play at will end up the same whoever runs the team that bears the name. What is essential is that that team is run by a body that both has integrity and demonstrates it. That body cannot be the existing limited company for the numerous reasons which are self evident.
There can be no progress without governance for the people by the people.
Supporting a team is akin to a tax. That tax is both financial and emotional. We have paid our taxes but have not been represented. That is an unacceptable state of affairs in both respects.
There is a future which has been outlined by the Trust and has been rejected by the company. The company has no visible viable plan to set the Team on an upward trajectory. There is simply no case to support the existing regime and this view has been shouted from the rooftops since the 2008 EGM. If frittering away all the assets needed to sustain the team is not enough the events since King Carl's resignation have surely opened a few more eyes.
Recent events have been a final warning for the hard of hearing. If there is no revolution there will be no future as those who combine a passion for our club with the vision and skills to change things for the better will simply walk away.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on May 13, 2017 22:57:48 GMT
No, its not the time to draw any lines under any of what has gone on. Why should we? Imagine if the fans of Hereford United had said "Let's draw a line under the lies and deceit, and destruction of our club by Andy Lonsdale and Tommy Agombar, and just cheer on the lads" They wouldn't have a team of any kind now.
I guess that if you're just a football watcher, with no connection with the club, thats fair enough, watch the games and bugger the consequences. What did Hampson say yesterday? If City played at Step 3 of the pyramid, they wouldn't last a season. Two seasons ago , he said that we could only play at Step 2 for a couple more seasons. At what point will the club not be able to play another season at Step 5? I don't think that we will be able to afford to play at Bromsgrove for more than this next season, so where next?
What kind of reasoning is it that says that it makes sense to put money into unprofessional, and possible illegal and corrupt businesses? Thats what you're suggesting. Just to watch a football match? Is it any wonder that there is so much corruption and money laundering in football - a cash business with mug punters, its a perfect storm really!
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Post by wr4change on May 14, 2017 8:28:06 GMT
Firstly please let me make my position clear, I am a Supporter, a Season Ticket Holder and a Shareholder so I do have a real connection with this club. I do not support the current Board and in my opinion the sooner we are rid of the muppets Hampson, Layland and Wilcox the better, sadly I don't think this will happen any time soon.
I do believe that a properly structured Community Owned Club is the way forward, I've seen the model at Exeter City and the engagement there with fans is very impressive and it's what we should be aiming for as soon as possible.
However, what I do disagree with is the constant debate and witch hunt over what happened in the past, you just need to let it go and move forward. In my opinion, and it's only my view, The Trust will gain considerably more support and raise more funds and awareness if all the members of their Board were to adopt a more positive approach to the future and what we could all build together instead of continually berating former directors and attacking the current regime.
If we were to remove the current Board then what would we find in all the books, records and correspondence? Well there would certainly be no evidence in terms of a paper trail for any corruption, if ever there was any it will have been long since destroyed. So, if the former board were guilty of any wrong doing they've got away with it so just leave it and move on.
Jen, you are clearly an intelligent man why not channel all your energies into building for the future instead of looking for skeletons in a cupboard that was shut along time ago.
I do object to being called a "mug punter", I know what I'm talking about as I've worked in business for 27 years and one thing I have learnt is that sometimes it's just time to move on, if you don't you let future opportunities pass you by. As I have said we have a Management Team that will be the envy of the league, we have good support home and away so let's make that count and have a bloody good season. The only money I will be investing in this regime is my admission fee and the cost of a programme, I will donate my time etc when the community model is eventually up and running.
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Post by richwidd on May 14, 2017 9:44:36 GMT
I have read many, many posts on this banter board in recent years and it clearly evident that WCFC has countless Supporters who love and care for this club and the role that it plays in their lives and the wider community. I cannot fault the passion and support that so many of you have for WCFC. There have clearly been far too many mistakes and errors of judgement made by both previous and the current Board of Directors, these mistakes have caused this club to now find itself with no ground, based outside the City that bears its name, with dwindling revenues and funds in the bank and faced with having to play next season in the MFL. All of the above have been as a result of mis-management, possible illegal, corrupt and unprofessional behaviour by those in charge. However, despite all of the above as a club we find ourselves with a Football Management Team (Snape, Hughes and hopefully Jackman) that will be the envy of all of the other clubs in the MFL. How many other teams at this level have a Lee Hughes with a wealth of Premier League experience and contacts ? Is is it not time to draw a permanent line under the issues surrounding the sale of SGL, the payments to St Modwens, the disgraceful way in which the wool was pulled over everyone's eyes as we were relegated ? Surely we should all be saying lets gets together, support the lads, buy season tickets, get behind Snapper, Hughsie and Jacko and have a great season in the MFL ? As the title to this thread says "We are where we are" let's enjoy a season where we will score more goals, visit new grounds, win more games and maybe have a decent run in a cup like the FA Vase. There is far too much infighting at this club, I am not going to pin my colours to The Board (certainly not) but I'm not going to say any one party be it The Board, The Trust or anyone else has all the answers, but believe me if people don't pull together then in a few seasons from now we may wish we were in the MFL as its better than being two or three leagues lower. So let's stop pointing the finger and get behind this once proud club and move forward as best we can, let's support the team. I for one as were the other people you mentioned, prepared to draw a line under the past and forget all of the bent activity that went on. So much so that we called an EGM last Summer to change the Club into Community Ownership and get on with the task of sorting it out. You saw the outcome of that and people pulling together and you saw what Hampson thought of it. Unfortunately we have a Chairman who says one thing and does another and he defeated the only credible option on the table (not for the first time). His Board presented a short term plan before the EGM and he hasn't succeeded in a single aim. After the EGM he then makes a pathetic offer to step down and appoint he successor! And you have yet to see a half of what he has been up to. Hampson is a person who turns a blind eye to fiddling and operates without the knowledge or consent of other Board members. "Pull Together" You have finished your last post to state you will help out once the Club has changed, so you are not pulling together,you are looking the other way. "Support The Lads" do me a favour, that's exactly the same comments that the people who have got us into this mess spout out overtime they are found out. I love your reference to Exeter City, that is something that Hampson despises. He brought in a Solicitor before the EGM to help them move forward. The Solicitor told Hampson something he didn't want to hear, you haven't heard anything about this Solicitor since. . You have a Chairman who lies to Fans, avoids questions like the Plague and whose driving message is "You are stuck with me." That's what he is offering, Good Luck. |
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Post by richwidd on May 14, 2017 9:46:50 GMT
If we were to remove the current Board then what would we find in all the books, records and correspondence? Well there would certainly be no evidence in terms of a paper trail for any corruption, if ever there was any it will have been long since destroyed. So, if the former board were guilty of any wrong doing they've got away with it so just leave it and move on. . Fortunately photocopiers were invented |
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Post by wr4change on May 14, 2017 10:28:58 GMT
Rich, I know all about the EGM as I was there, I have in no way questioned the efforts of yourself or the other Trust Members to sort out this mess, I actually applaud your work for the good of WCFC. I would love to assist and I will do when I can in the future in terms of time. Please do not misread what I have said, it's all that I ever seem to read on here is a slating of The Board (whom I deplore) as opposed to some positivity about The Team for next season.
If there are photocopied documents then use them to force the changes you want.
The Trust, now more so than ever, have an opportunity to engage with all of the other fans and bring together a credible alternative to The Current Shambles (ie The Board), I know to make any changes you need constitutional change and that was sadly defeated by the silent majority at the EGM.
There is no point changing the Board and everything if there isn't a team to support, they go hand in hand - that's all I'm trying to say - let's support Snapper & Hughsie at the same time, after all it's the "football" that is the purpose of all this anyway.
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Post by simon on May 14, 2017 11:45:34 GMT
After years and years of fingers in the till and horrendous business decisions we find ourselves in this position.
We cannot change the past but we can hopefully shape the future.
Are the shareholders who voted against a change of constitution happy with the result now? I doubt it.Perhaps with a rethink they might decide that a Community Owned club is now a better option.
When Hampson took the decision for a voluntary drop[which is a minimum of 2 levels]we were at level 6 of the football pyramid,by the time the decision is made we're at level 7 due to natural relegation,so dropping 2 levels at that point puts us in the MFL.............yet another horrendous botched decision.
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Post by alwaysnextyear on May 14, 2017 12:11:22 GMT
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on May 14, 2017 12:42:06 GMT
Tell that to the fans of AFC Wimbledon "just go up to Milton Keynes and cheer on the lads and put this silly talk of forming a new club to one side" Tell it to the fans of Enfield Town FC "Just carry on supporting Enfield, ok you don't like the way the Board operate, but draw a line under it and buy a season ticket" Those good fans of Enfield Town FC , who simply wouldn't accept the bad business, formed the first community club 15 years ago, and built their team from the Essex Senior League to the Ryman Premier. They didn't have to, they could have just carried on cheering the lads under Tony Lazarou. Tell it to the fans of Fisher Athletic "Keep supporting the lads, ok, we know Sami Muduroglu is a bit dodgy, but lets draw a line under that, and cheer on the team" They did, and Fisher Athletic are no more, and neither is the wonderful Fisher Docks Stadium. Their Supporters Trust managed to take over after it was too late.
I wouldn't worry about the football, there will always be a football team, players and managers, they come and go. As do dodgy movers, who manipulate supporters. For me, its not about the football, its about Worcester City Football Club. I've spent the last 15 years building for a future, and in that time I've seen questionable people making questionable decisions behind closed doors, which have seen the club plummet both in leagues, status and finances. I don't go on about the past actions of former directors, thats history now. But there are still decisions being made (some of which you don't know about) which are killing this club, and this is the present, and the future. If there are skeletons in the closet, they represent the present, and also the future of the club.
If you are under the impression that we are going to walk this league, I think you are very wrong. Judging by what Hampson said on the radio, this football club cannot sustain football above Step 4 right now. The financial situation will only go one way if we stay as we are, which is down. I expect Step 5 football at best for the foreseeable future.
And I didnt call you a mug punter, I called football fans (including me) mug punters. I go to watch Villa, I pay my money watch a game, and I'm being screwed every time. Same when I go and watch Rhinos. I pay, I watch, Gary Hetherington makes money, I'm a mug punter, and its ok, because I can sing Marching on Together, and go home and not give a damn. And thats the honest side of the game. Its no co-incidence that football is so full of dodgy people, and not just at the top end, in fact more likely at the less audited, less governed lower leagues, ask Darlo about George Reynolds, go figure why Stockport County are in non-league. If you just want to accept that there could be corruption and bad practice at WCFC which has led to its demise, and do nothing about it so it can continue, then thats ok, carry on. I don't know you, you don't know me, so it really makes no difference. Personally, I can't allow it, and I'd be annoyed with myself if I knew that I hadn't tried.
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Post by auldreekie on May 14, 2017 12:56:14 GMT
Does anyone know on what possible grounds Hampson appealed the decision ? Relegation took us to step 3, a voluntary demotion of 2 steps took us to step 5, which is where the FA put us. What's there to appeal ? The National League System 2016-2017 rules says that a club “ may be allowed to make an application to join a League/division below the most recent League/division of which the Club was a member.” An application to join the South & West Division of the Southern League would have therefore met that requirement. My guess is that grounds of appeal could have been the rules say that the starting point is the current season’s [2016/17] league/division and not the one that they would have played in next season [2017/18] if no application had been made, i.e. after relegation. |
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on May 14, 2017 12:57:15 GMT
I have it on good authority that the Board thought that they could choose which league they went into, and when they found out that it wasn't up to them, they tried to reverse the resignation from the league. If they'd done their homework, talked with the FA (you could do that over the phone, no need for a day out at Wembley Stadium) they'd have known the rules, and what the outcome would be. I dare say their thinking was that they resigned whist still at Step 2, therefore the 2 step demotion would take them to Step 4. I bet no-one asked the question "But what happens if we are relegated naturally at the end of the season?" One could call it a schoolboy error! Here's the rub, they used company money for that appeal, obviously decided that the league we ended up in was an irrelevant factor for shareholders or supporters. If they'd have met with fan groups, shareholder groups, and put forward the situation, and discussed it rationally, most supporters would have probably accepted Step 5, most who had done their homework were expecting Step 5 anyway. So they could have saved themselves the cost of a meaningless appeal, and actually won a bit of kudos back with stakeholders. I don't mind us being at Step 5 at all, if we are unable to sustain Step 3, then there's no point in being at Step 4, as if we won the league we couldn't take promotion anyway. They obviously were more interested in a day out at Wembley than the appeal, if they had been serious about it, they'd have taken legal representation with them, instead they went for an hours worth of Powerpoint! |
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on May 14, 2017 13:20:07 GMT
Does anyone know on what possible grounds Hampson appealed the decision Day out in London? All expenses first class rail trip with free breakfast? Lunch on expenses? |
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Post by auldreekie on May 14, 2017 13:46:49 GMT
Does anyone know on what possible grounds Hampson appealed the decision ? Relegation took us to step 3, a voluntary demotion of 2 steps took us to step 5, which is where the FA put us. What's there to appeal ? The National League System 2016-2017 rules says that a club “ may be allowed to make an application to join a League/division below the most recent League/division of which the Club was a member.” An application to join the South & West Division of the Southern League would have therefore met that requirement. My guess is that grounds of appeal could have been the rules say that the starting point is the current season’s [2016/17] league/division and not the one that they would have played in next season [2017/18] if no application had been made, i.e. after relegation. Other possible grounds of appeal might have been precedent. In recent years in Conference North there have been some relevant cases. Clearly we do not know all the details but Lancaster City FC finished in 22nd place in the 2006/07 season and would have been there without the 10 points deduction they carried. The re-formed club were relegated two divisions to the Northern Premier League Division One North (Step 4) for the next season. Nuneaton Borough FC finished in 7th position in the 2007/08 season and the phoenix club Nuneaton Town FC were given a place in the Southern League Division One Midlands (Step 4). Both clubs had horrendous financial issues to deal with but only faced a two Step relegation. There could be grounds for appealing that a club wanting to make a managed and voluntary relegation are being treated more harshly with a three Step relegation. Vauxhall Motors FC finished in 18th position in the 2013/14 season and had already intimated their resignation. They were placed in the West Cheshire League (Step 7). Indications in the press suggest that the club was not looking to minimise relegation but instead find a league lower down the Pyramid. As I say, just a guess. |
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on May 14, 2017 14:02:00 GMT
Whatever the reasons, if its worth fighting for, you make sure you put your best team into an appeal. I've been in meetings with Mr Hampson, and watched the eyes roll around the table. I doubt that the FA is the place where you want to play your affable avuncular buffoon card. If you're going to pay for an appeal, you might as well pay for decent and proper representation !
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Post by alwaysnextyear on May 14, 2017 16:14:23 GMT
Didn't we recently have a solicitor on the Board, that was really keen on football, and who could have offered his services for free ?
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Post by harley on May 14, 2017 18:33:28 GMT
In answer to the first post, I'm not Jesus and I haven't got dementia so I'm not going to forgive and forget.
We don't know whether at last year's EGM a successful motion to change the club's constitution would have made any difference to the outcome of the season and this demotion but we do know it would have energised supporters, shown potential investors that the club was willing to change and opened up new funding streams for Perdiswell. Those shareholders who voted no to change bear a huge responsibility for this current state of affairs and I hope (but doubt) that they are hanging their heads in shame.
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Post by Noboddy aka Lord Ealing on May 14, 2017 19:53:30 GMT
The shareholders who voted against change are the same cabal that got us into this mess to start with. They are just clinging on to power so they can rinse every last penny from the club. Every time a supporter pays into the club they are just propping up the regime.
I'd love to move on now. But move on to what? We're in a vehicle being driven out of control towards a cliff by a bunch of deranged, dodgy lunatics. If we just accept that situation and "cheer on the lads" we're bound to crash onto the rocks. It's not an option.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on May 14, 2017 21:21:47 GMT
A serious question to wr4change , if we were to do what Enfield did, and form a breakaway club, which set of lads would you cheer on? Every supporter should read this sports.vice.com/en_uk/article/introducing-enfield-town-englands-first-fully-fan-owned-clubMaking that kind of decision must have been a tough one, but supporters just said that enough was enough under Lazarou. And 15 years, they've gone from Essex Senior League to Isthmian League play offs. Meanwhile the other original Enfield have gone from Isthmian League before being dissolved and now..... to Essex Senior League. |
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Post by wr4wolf on May 14, 2017 22:06:42 GMT
I can see both sides to the argument in this discussion but don't we just have to try and make the best of where we currently find ourselves? That would mean trying to get rid of the current regime, identifying someone or a group of individuals who would be willing to sit on any new board and then all getting behind the club and giving it our full support.
At present there is no unity within our fanbase and this is what makes us different to other clubs who have found themselves in this position and successfully come though it. Some fans, and probably the more informed, seem to want to stay away and look at a breakaway club whilst others want to focus on supporting the team and will continue handing over money to those who continue to drive the club towards oblivion.
Those who voted against constitutional change must now be asking themselves why they voted to stick with the current set up so how do we now mobilise the supporter base to try and seek change or at least try and remove these idiots from power?
Many of us who aren't close enough to the club like many of you on here simply don't know what to do to try and assist get the club out of this mess.
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Post by creaner on May 15, 2017 0:06:50 GMT
Fans forum at least to get things aired in the open. Snapper was talking about holding one so maybe a joint club/trust forum to get some clarity on the way forward.
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Post by jimbo on May 15, 2017 8:39:10 GMT
I can see both sides to the argument in this discussion but don't we just have to try and make the best of where we currently find ourselves? That would mean trying to get rid of the current regime, identifying someone or a group of individuals who would be willing to sit on any new board and then all getting behind the club and giving it our full support. At present there is no unity within our fanbase and this is what makes us different to other clubs who have found themselves in this position and successfully come though it. Some fans, and probably the more informed, seem to want to stay away and look at a breakaway club whilst others want to focus on supporting the team and will continue handing over money to those who continue to drive the club towards oblivion. Those who voted against constitutional change must now be asking themselves why they voted to stick with the current set up so how do we now mobilise the supporter base to try and seek change or at least try and remove these idiots from power? Many of us who aren't close enough to the club like many of you on here simply don't know what to do to try and assist get the club out of this mess. We had a group of Trust Board members who joined the Club Board to try to make changes & they resigned extremely quickly because they could not work with them due to not being allowed to attend all meetings & I'm sure there were some other aspects of the way the club is being run that they felt were not above board enough t be involved with. You say that we should identify someone or a group willing to get n board etc..... What the hell do you think The Supporters Trust was formed for ? It is an active group of dedicated people who spend their time helping to move the club forward. |
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Post by Noboddy aka Lord Ealing on May 15, 2017 9:12:32 GMT
Does anyone know how much Hampson and co pay themselves as directors?
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on May 15, 2017 10:46:14 GMT
Yes, none of the Directors take any salary out of the club, apart from Joe Murphy who is an employee.
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Post by Noboddy aka Lord Ealing on May 15, 2017 11:39:56 GMT
Thanks.
I think I might head up to Enfield for the odd game next season.
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Post by alwaysnextyear on May 15, 2017 11:50:04 GMT
Hi noboddy - I do like this type of question to have a go at answering - however this is another one of those interesting little questions that relate to WCFC finances.
As I've stated many times, with no AGM's being held for year after year by either Boddy or Hampson, it allows for no examination or questioning of audited full sets of accounts to take place. No AGM's = no accounts sent to shareholders. No accounts = no questions.
The only times anything resembling financial details of sorts have been provided by the club, were at the EGM's of 2008 and 2016 when Boddy's and Hampson's positions were threatened, so they had to produce something. The full set of accounts were presented for the year ended 31.05.15 at the July 2016 EGM, and this is the only full set given to shareholders since Boddy's EGM of 2008. At the 2016 EGM, some figures were also produced that appeared to relate to the years 2011 - 2016 ( estimated ), plus a " funds tracking summary " for 2010 to 2015. However there were no full sets of accounts for these years ( bar 2015} produced to support these documents.
To answer your question ! A full set of accounts has to show " related party transactions with Directors ", ie how much have they been paid and what for, whereas the abbreviated set of accounts sent to Companies House doesn't have to show it. Therefore without the full sets ( not available to prying eyes ), there is very little hard evidence to provide an answer. However what little I can find is,
From the 2015 full set provided at the 2016 EGM, it shows that Joe Murphy received £ 8,839 in his capacity of Football Secretary for that year. However Joe Murphy only joined the Board that year on 25.05.14, so whilst he may have been getting paid prior to that, that would have been as an employee whilst not being a director. It's fair to assume that as Joe Murphy has continued in both roles in 2016 and 2017, that he has continued to have been paid since then. However, Joe Murphy has been getting paid for providing a " service ". What I suspect the other directors may receive are " expenses ".
The 2015 full set accounts show as expenditure items that " Administration wages and fees " were £ 29,017, and " Sundry Expenses " were £ 9,307. Your guess is as good as mine. They also showed " Legal and Professional Fees " of £ 8,127. Quite why these were needed seeing as we were renting Aggborough is lost on me, but I'd love to know what for and to whom !
For those whiff of nostalgia lovers of SGL.
Whilst some of us are being told that the past is the past and that we should move on, related party transactions are not new to WCFC. From 1996 to 2008, ex Director Laurie Brown received £ 165,473 over that period for " management services " relating to the Supergold Scheme, culminating in an career high eye watering fee of £ 16,861 in 2008.
As for the mysterious Social Club arrangement with the maverick Jon Prescott, there are no related party transactions shown that he was paid whilst a Director for services rendered. However as the Social Club somehow ran up a 38k debt to the football club ( later written off because we could afford to ! ) , he was therefore providing a service on behalf of a separate entity, yet this was not shown. Despite apparently not working for the Club, I understand that it did not prevent him receiving redundancy money from the club when the social club shut !
Oh to see the books for the last 10 years..........................before we move on
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Post by Noboddy aka Lord Ealing on May 15, 2017 12:14:21 GMT
Thanks alwaysnextyear.
I assume you're thinking of changing your name soon?
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Post by wr4wolf on May 15, 2017 12:54:00 GMT
Jimbo, I understand why the Trust was set up and the good work they have , and continue to do but I'm looking forward. Clearly those from the Trust who became Board members felt that they could not work alongside Hampson & Co so resigned. If he were to leave, would any of these people, or anyone else for that matter, be willing to put themselves forward again?
Of those advocating a "phoenix" club as per the Enfield route is anyone willing to take on the role of chairman or board member, or even have someone else in mind? Surely our best route at the minute is to rid the club of the current board and go from there, rather than set up completely from scratch even lower down?
At the minute I do not see unity in the way Hereford, AFC Wimbledon, Enfield etc had it and that can only play into the hands of the current board?
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on May 15, 2017 13:21:12 GMT
But the same question remains, if we were to rid the present club of this Board, would anyone be prepared to step up and form a new board of directors?
Two years ago, even 12 months ago, this was a possibility, I really don't think it is now. It would be like taking the helm from Capt Smith AFTER Titanic had hit the iceberg.
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Post by jimbo on May 15, 2017 14:07:33 GMT
If I am correct wr4wolf, if someone were to join the Board now or after the present shower have gone, there would be personal liabilities to consider. Without prior knowledge to what consequences they may be, it would be rather foolish for anyone to walk into the situation.
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