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Post by thatloudbloke on Aug 4, 2016 15:32:10 GMT
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Post by zeke on Aug 4, 2016 16:08:19 GMT
I've never boo'd the players and only ever walked out once in nearly 40 years. I'll get behind the team every time I go. But I don't subscribe to the fact that they "deserve" it, without kicking a ball.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Aug 4, 2016 16:26:41 GMT
I won't be there, I'll decide if and when I put any money into the business, no season ticket (advance payment) this year. I think I'll go to Uxbridge FC on Saturday. Why exactly should I pay 40 pounds in petrol, just to watch a club that doesn't want me involved in it? I'm sure "the lads" (whoever they are, they come, they go) won't give a damn.
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Post by greenman on Aug 4, 2016 17:10:53 GMT
Maybe all the shareholders who voted against the Trust's proposals will turn out to lend their support. I am sure the Chairman will have encouraged them with some positive leadership.
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Post by greenman on Aug 4, 2016 17:16:04 GMT
Good to see Grays Athletic who recently converted to a CBS have raised £44000 in their first month, if only we were on the same road now.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Aug 4, 2016 17:19:59 GMT
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Post by oxford on Aug 4, 2016 20:34:57 GMT
I will be at Sutton V Solihull Moors.Have a 10 game ticket for us but have virtually no interest in going to Bromsgrove.(even before all the recent happenings-even less now.) Full season ticket at Sutton.Hope to do a few away games though to keep in touch.
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Post by jupu on Aug 4, 2016 21:09:22 GMT
If they can be taken as a benchmark, here are our attendances for the first home game in each of our three seasons at Aggborough:
13/14 - 714 v Altrincham (opening day of the season, our first game at Kidderminster) 14/15 - 565 v Stalybridge 15/16 - 668 v Tamworth (Tuesday night with a fair number of away fans)
Sadly we didn't win any of those games, and in fact we haven't won on the opening day now since 2008.
One swallow doesn't make a summer but three points and a 500 plus crowd I think would be a satisfactory outcome.
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Post by oxford on Aug 4, 2016 21:27:48 GMT
More than satisfactory I would say!!
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Post by cloud on Aug 5, 2016 8:36:30 GMT
I understand, & agree, with everything Carl says about how support is important to the team - no problem, but before last month's vote, when he was still a Director, he spoke about generating income from other areas (which would be the alternative to a Trust run club / grants etc).
I'd like his follow up / next step views on that side of things (as well as the usual team questions / answers) now that the vote went against the Trust proposal. His ideas about income generating are all the Club seem to have left as a way forward.
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Post by The sound and the fury on Aug 5, 2016 13:50:21 GMT
I'm going fishing. Will look at fixtures for next game I can attend.
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Post by zeke on Aug 5, 2016 14:04:42 GMT
500+ for the first game, then a big drop after the initial novelty of playing at a "new" ground.
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Post by thesecondjack on Aug 5, 2016 15:04:48 GMT
Second home game is Gloucester, so should hold up on attendance.
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Post by lancashirelad on Aug 5, 2016 15:56:01 GMT
I went on the old Grays ground a couple of times; they had a great social club behind the one goal. Best of luck to them, and hope they return home soon.
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Post by lancashirelad on Aug 5, 2016 15:57:51 GMT
I won't be there, I'll decide if and when I put any money into the business, no season ticket (advance payment) this year. I think I'll go to Uxbridge FC on Saturday. Why exactly should I pay 40 pounds in petrol, just to watch a club that doesn't want me involved in it? I'm sure "the lads" (whoever they are, they come, they go) won't give a damn. Nor me, I'll be at Chorley v FCUM tomorrow, although I'm going to do my best to get to Tamworth on Tuesday evening.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Aug 5, 2016 16:24:09 GMT
I went on the old Grays ground a couple of times; they had a great social club behind the one goal. Best of luck to them, and hope they return home soon. They have a plan, and a commitment. Thats what really bothers me about WCFC. Where is the real commitment from the Board to bring WCFC back to Worcester? Where is the support for Perdiswell? Show me the page on the City website where the club provide news and updates of whats going on?
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Post by thatloudbloke on Aug 5, 2016 16:36:16 GMT
I went on the old Grays ground a couple of times; they had a great social club behind the one goal. Best of luck to them, and hope they return home soon. They have a plan, and a commitment. Thats what really bothers me about WCFC. Where is the real commitment from the Board to bring WCFC back to Worcester? Where is the support for Perdiswell? Show me the page on the City website where the club provide news and updates of whats going on? Jem What are the ST doing, i thought we were having a meeting to discuss the future after the big fall out, or is it one rule for one & another rule for the other... we as fans are not getting information from either side & some just slagging off the club in one way or another, also some not going to support the players that we have, that is also not practical as its not their fault, i think what happens off the field should stay there & lets support what carl & his team have built as a football team, looking quite a good squad, all i ask is support the lads & lets work towards a way to get WCFC back to Worcester...
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Aug 5, 2016 20:59:53 GMT
Well I support them, I hope they win every game, but I won't be putting any money into the business for my own personal pleasure of watching football. I don't mind making that sacrifice, but few others will. Unfortunately I don't separate what goes on on the field from what goes on off the field. Its the same argument for boycotting The Sun newspaper, not a single guy operating a printing press at Wapping deserves to suffer because of the hideous actions of Murdoch & co. but I won't buy their newspaper. I believe that there will be a meeting next Thursday August 11th at KGV Brickfields to ask the ST membership what their view is about what happens next. The reality is, not much can happen in the foreground, as the Board have their mandate and their business plan, and having gained that from the majority of the shareholding, they MUST be allowed to undertake that mandate unfettered, thats democracy. The Supporters Trust will restate its ambitions and goals moving forward, which have little to do now with the machinations of the football club. I love the duplicity used by every football club, how the fans are so important, so critical to the success of the team, the usual emotional bullshit! Its funny how the same fans are disregarded as totally unimportant when they put forward proposals to try and save the business! Fans are only important if they're putting money into the clubs pockets, that's all. And fans fall for it every time, and club directors know what a fickle, malleable bunch supporters are once the season starts!! Think about it, across the country, at all levels, fans are being ripped off and shafted by the clubs they support, and when was the last time fans said " we're not accepting this, we are not going to turn up!" It just doesn't happen, so the rip off continues unabated!
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Post by jimbo on Aug 5, 2016 21:12:47 GMT
WHAT's RIGHT OR WRONG HERE ?? I agree wholeheartedly with Jem, in that we should not add any coffers to WCFC Ltd (bearing in mind that like Jem & many others I am also a shareholder). AND I do want to support the team. BUT I do believe that we should make a stand against the board's decision to 'carry on as is'. SO, where do we go from here ??
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Post by richwidd on Aug 6, 2016 8:10:08 GMT
They have a plan, and a commitment. Thats what really bothers me about WCFC. Where is the real commitment from the Board to bring WCFC back to Worcester? Where is the support for Perdiswell? Show me the page on the City website where the club provide news and updates of whats going on? Jem What are the ST doing, i thought we were having a meeting to discuss the future after the big fall out, or is it one rule for one & another rule for the other... we as fans are not getting information from either side & some just slagging off the club in one way or another, also some not going to support the players that we have, that is also not practical as its not their fault, i think what happens off the field should stay there & lets support what carl & his team have built as a football team, looking quite a good squad, all i ask is support the lads & lets work towards a way to get WCFC back to Worcester... "Support the lads" That's funny that's the same story that people were told when we were trying to stop our ground being sold from under our feet and pressed into going to Nunnery Way which we lost because people were "only there for the football". I find it incredible that people can still make comments such as in the paper that "it's easy in hindsight" for people to say what they are saying. As was pointed out throughout the 2000's, go and take a look at St Georges Lane, Gregory's Bank and Nunnery Way to see why we have nothing. I hear from very reliable sources that the people who ruined the club and voted against change at the recent EGM did it because they have a "plan" to save the Club. Bearing mind how good they were at running it into the ground, maybe they should all come and help now and finish it off. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to know who it is led by. So before anyone has a go at people who are choosing to stay away, take a look at the The dis-loyal fans at Hereford, Portsmouth, Chester, Wrexham and dozens of other clubs who are now Fan Owned, look what has happened to them. As for not giving information over the past couple of weeks, when you have spent four years putting something together which is then voted against by the very same people that caused all this mess then you will have to forgive us for taking a step back for a few weeks. There will be a Supporters Trust Forum on Thursday 11th August at 8pm at KGV Community Centre (Ash Avenue on Brickfields).
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Post by halesowenblue on Aug 6, 2016 9:09:18 GMT
I'm a shareholder and supporter of over thirty years and will not be attending todays game because I see no hope for the club as things stand. As a supporter of WCFC it's not just about supporting the players or just watching a football match (when I need my football fix I'll make the short journey to Halesowen Town). I've supported the club through thick and thin, but now I've given up. Until I see some hope for the future I'll be staying away.
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Post by Dodger on Aug 6, 2016 10:41:27 GMT
Sorry to 'buck the trend' here, but I will be going. My view (even as a Trust member) is that the more support being shown on match days will (or should) not only give the players a lift but also show to the population of Worcester (and surrounding areas, of course) that the football team is literally alive and kicking......to stay away could easily seen as there being no interest in WCFC. If the 'regular' supporters show a reluctance to attend, why would any newbies appear interested. WCFC need to remain 'high profile' in the minds of Worcester folk by winning games and being well supported. If nothing has changed since last season, why would non-attendance this season improve things? It would just lead to the demise of the club earlier than has been predicted.
To me, staying in NN is crucial to our future........going down the Hereford route would be a non-starter when we only have 300+ hardcore supporters and would be languishing in the lower depths of non-league football.
Having said this, I fully appreciate, and accept, the views of those wishing to protest by not attending and value their reasons in doing so.
Dodger.
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Post by simon on Aug 6, 2016 12:16:05 GMT
Our gang [the four of us]will be at today's game even though we don't like the way the club is being/has been run.
I agree with Dodger,staying in the NN is vital for our future,at least we have a small chance of survival as against no chance.
The attendances at Bromsgrove will depend on what's happening on the pitch rather than off it.
See you at 3 o'clock.
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Post by zeke on Aug 6, 2016 12:31:19 GMT
The problem is that in the past we could always rely on the hardcore supporters to turn up. Then have the rest for bigger games or when we're doing well. Now it seems it's the hardcore supporters who are wavering, there is no-one to fall back on. If we struggle on the pitch, I fear sub 300 attendances.
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Post by zeke on Aug 6, 2016 13:47:28 GMT
At least Boddy's here
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Post by thesecondjack on Aug 6, 2016 17:13:27 GMT
And what a lovely reception Boddy was getting from the covered end!
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