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Post by kentenigmawcfc on Jul 9, 2016 9:03:05 GMT
Ladies and Gentlemen,
If you are a shareholder like me or a regular fan please could I suggest that if you are disillusioned like me after last Thursdays vote when a small minority with a lot of share votes scuppered not only the Trust proposals for Club constitution changes but also their own plans to allow new investment by allowing other investors to purchase more than 1% of the shares. Should that issue be revisited by the Board again we unhappy shareholders must vote it down or insist on a caveat that no existing or new shareholders can have more than one vote no matter how many shares they hold and that all voting will be passed by a majority not thwarted by a minority block vote of the larger shareholders. That though is for the future if there is one?
So what can we disgruntled shareholders and supporters do now to show our displeasure with the current state of affairs. Well let's start hitting the Club in the pocket. I suggest that if you feel like I do, you should start by cancelling your direct debits for the '200 Club' draw and also stop buying 'Gold Bond' tickets as I don't see the point in throwing good money after bad any more, especially with the way we are being treated.
I know it is a big ask for some of you but I would suggest you stop attending home matches. I know some people have already committed to 'Season Tickets' or 10 match tickets so I cannot expect you to boycott the games if you have already paid your money but perhaps you would consider not renewing when your season ticket or block of tickets run out.
If you do want to go to the matches please do not buy any merchandise, the 50/50 tickets or raffle tickets or anything else the Club dreams up to try and part you from your hard earned cash as they no longer deserve it. The Club under the current stewardship has shown nothing but utter contempt for us and our wishes as indeed it has done for a number of years under the previous Boards. It is the Club Boards past and present, incompetence and arrogance that has really come to the fore and focused a lot of minds. Much though I hate saying it after some 40+ years of following and supporting the Club, the time has come to stop unless there is a major U-turn in their attitude and their ear plugs and blindfolds come off and they start yielding to the will of the majority of shareholders, whether those shareholders hold the full 3,000 allowable like myself or you hold the minimum permissible because that is all you can afford. Your vote should have equal parity with mine and that of the larger shareholders and not count for nothing as is the case now.
I am heartily tired of the Board in it's various guises providing false promises with scant details and always claiming Business confidentiality, while rubbishing any ideas apart from their own ill thought through disasters. If the Board had a good track record of decision making over the last twenty years I would not be so angry now. The simple truth is they haven't and they have let shareholders down badly which is why I also believe they should amend the constitution now to allow shareholders to redeem their shares for their stake money while there is still cash in the Bank to do so.
The Club as I see now is not only nearing bankruptcy in the next 2 to 3 years but is morally bankrupt too and can no longer be considered to be looking after it's shareholders interests let alone it's fans who it cares about almost as little both before and after you walk through the turnstiles. You are just a money tree to them and they care not one jot about you bar that. So vote with your feet wherever practical and keep your money well away from their clutches, as much as is possible from now on till they afford you a good deal more respect and courtesy than they are showing shareholders and fans at the moment.
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Post by kentenigmawcfc on Jul 9, 2016 9:19:20 GMT
P.S. for anyone who thinks my comments are aimed at my hoping to take over at the Club you can forget it. I do not have enough business acumen to do that even if I wanted to which I don't. No there are far better and more suitable candidates I have met who are also shareholders and fans who hold similar views to me about the current state of affairs. Besides who wants to be associated with this bunch of funeral directors currently in charge who are waiting for the patient to die and won't admit they hit the patient over the head when they robbed it of money and life by their ill conceived plans of the past. It's only the life support machine keeping our Club alive now but it will have to be switched off far too soon through no fault of the majority of shareholders. I know the club is now committed to this season but I seriously question the point of going beyond as the Club now works, so it's change of the constitution and Board a.s.a.p. or the phoenix club route for me.
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Post by kentenigmawcfc on Jul 9, 2016 9:29:04 GMT
Shame someone didn't video our rhino skinned chairman and play it back to him to show him what we all saw these last two Thursday evenings and then put them out on 'You Tube' to show the world on how not to conduct yourself as Chair of a meeting and what we as shareholders have to put up with and his unwillingness to answer questions or even let them be heard. Shameful Mr Chairman, truly shameful and you should do the honourable thing now and step down because remember dictatorships do fall and usually with an almighty crash!
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Post by halesowenblue on Jul 9, 2016 13:53:22 GMT
I am in agreement and as a supporter for over 35 years will now not be attending home matches and wasting my hard earned cash on a dying WCFC until I can see real hope that something has changed for the better.
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Post by cityman on Jul 9, 2016 16:06:34 GMT
I am with you halesowenblue, they will not be getting any of my money either, we have to hit them where it hurts the most.
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Post by Mark on Jul 9, 2016 16:56:38 GMT
I have already bought a ten game ticket so I will see ten games but after that............
I guess that I should also consider cancelling my entries into the Teambuilder and Gold Bond competitions as long as the current Muppets are running the Club but it hurts me to do it.
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Post by Dodger on Jul 9, 2016 17:19:48 GMT
My only concern with these suggestions is that they may simply play into the hands of the 'Wrexit' team.
If support falls away during these 2/3 years before the inevitable, Mr Hampson will no doubt point the accusing finger at us fans for letting the club down resulting in the demise of WCFC.
Dodger.
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Post by kentenigmawcfc on Jul 9, 2016 17:20:50 GMT
Well someone has seen the light as Carl Healey resigns from Board according to Club website
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Post by Dodger on Jul 9, 2016 17:31:14 GMT
Well someone has seen the light as Carl Healey resigns from Board according to Club website Indeed.........and coupled with Mr Hampson's comment:- I take my responsibilities as Chairman seriously and I have today emailed the Supporters’ Trust Chairman and Secretary offering what I believe to be a way forward to unify the Club and allows it to move forward.
It is my sincere hope that they give this offer serious consideration."Dodger. |
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Post by Mark on Jul 9, 2016 17:31:24 GMT
Well someone has seen the light as Carl Healey resigns from Board according to Club website How long before he quits as manager? |
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Post by greenman on Jul 9, 2016 17:31:24 GMT
It is not the resignation that the supporters/shareholders wanted, it was Hampson the meeting were calling for to resign.
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Post by jimbo on Jul 9, 2016 21:23:20 GMT
It would be interesting to know the truth behind this, considering CH seemed to have gone cold on the trust recently.
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Post by thesecondjack on Jul 9, 2016 21:45:13 GMT
You'll have to forgive me on forgetting who said it to me, but someone said that Carl had all but signed a goalkeeper until they saw the headlines in the paper about club finances, which changed their mind - if true, you can understand Carl being annoyed with the ST, after giving the press such stories. It is fair to say a player seeing a club in trouble is less likely to sign for us as they want a secure job.
Sadly we're in the situation where the club need to sort itself out urgently on and off the pitch in terms of getting players good enough to compete, and getting the running of the club in order. One cannot exist without the other, but talk of peril off the pitch makes the job on the pitch harder, if the EGM etc was delayed until we had a squad, we could have lost more money by then, and made the on the pitch effort harder by lack of money to spend on wages. Catch 22 - if you see my point.
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Post by dcx on Jul 9, 2016 21:58:00 GMT
You'll have to forgive me on forgetting who said it to me, but someone said that Carl had all but signed a goalkeeper until they saw the headlines in the paper about club finances, which changed their mind - if true, you can understand Carl being annoyed with the ST, after giving the press such stories. It is fair to say a player seeing a club in trouble is less likely to sign for us as they want a secure job. Sadly we're in the situation where the club need to sort itself out urgently on and off the pitch in terms of getting players good enough to compete, and getting the running of the club in order. One cannot exist without the other, but talk of peril off the pitch makes the job on the pitch harder, if the EGM etc was delayed until we had a squad, we could have lost more money by then, and made the on the pitch effort harder by lack of money to spend on wages. Catch 22 - if you see my point. Was this the imminent signing that was supposed to be announced before the Stourport game today? The off pitch turmoil is already causing turmoil on the pitch - notice how since it's all kicked off we haven't made any signings yet Carl keeps saying they have made offers to several players? I don't think they should be worried about getting paid for a season or two, if they were on a 5 year contract I could understand it more. |
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Post by thesecondjack on Jul 9, 2016 22:15:05 GMT
I think it was before then, but might be wrong. Proof is in the pudding after seeing Vaughan notice the trouble we're in - players see it and think twice about it all.  Sidenote - great to see him try and get Ethan Ross to get in tough with the club - I'd be happy enough with him as our first choice keeper! |
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Post by kentenigmawcfc on Jul 9, 2016 23:39:23 GMT
Hi my friend. I understand where you are coming from but the Club finances are in the Public domain for anyone to see and request from 'Companies House' so that is not really a secret. Any player would be checking into a Club and finding out it's commercial status so maybe the turmoil turned him off, the Club finances, or the Clubs woes which have been out in the public domain so long that a pal could easily have tipped him off to avoid us or he simply had a better offer?
Nothing about this whole sorry saga makes happy reading and there will never be a good time to bring it to a head but Anthonys' behaviour the last two Thursday evenings decided things for me once and for all. So if my actions make me unpopular with the Board see if I care as that is nothing to how unpopular Anthony and that Board are unpopular with me and every shareholder bar a couple last Thursday and in the minds of every shareholder not privy to the inner sanctum of deceitful power exerted by so few over so many. Resistance is not futile, it is absolutely necessary and it starts here as we have waited in vain for a clear vision and future from the Board and have seen nothing since Anthony took over. My patience is at an end.
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Jul 10, 2016 10:02:19 GMT
I think that you credit the average player with a lot more than I do. Checking on the club at Companies House ? I doubt that ! Players come and go, and the days of the loyal clubman over many seasons ( such as 500 + game Carl ) are long gone.
I've little doubt the infighting doesn't help the image of the club, but players will go where they can get the best deal, and where they feel the most wanted.
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Post by citytoon on Jul 10, 2016 10:08:18 GMT
Also with players being signed on a season by season basis surely it doesn't make too much difference in practice, although agree it can't help.
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Post by thesecondjack on Jul 10, 2016 10:40:31 GMT
Yes, I'd suggest most will have look on the local papers website and that's about it - so lets look at some of the headlines we've had recently:
''Angry City Fans Consider Launching Phoenix Club''
''City Chairman Urged To Resign As Fans Fear For Clubs Future''
''City Must Plug £250,000 Gap Warns Fans' Trust''
They might not even open that articles - just see the headlines saying it's all doom and gloom and think twice - it's not going to convince them to sign, is it!
Edit: This is no criticism of anyone, especially not Geoff who I think has been brilliant in covering the city both on and off the pitch - it's just an observation.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2016 11:16:57 GMT
So do we suppress the news; not challenge the board; sit on our hands? This is an inevitable fallout from the mess. Agree with Rob though, time to regroup and reassess.
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Post by greenman on Jul 10, 2016 11:43:08 GMT
There is still a great passion and goodwill amongst true supporters of the Club, however this will not be harnessed until Hampson realises he is not the man to unite us. He has caused too much damage now which is irreparable for goodness sake and the future of WCFC go now.
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Post by thesecondjack on Jul 10, 2016 13:08:58 GMT
So do we suppress the news; not challenge the board; sit on our hands? This is an inevitable fallout from the mess. Agree with Rob though, time to regroup and reassess. I don't have the answer for that I'm afraid - just highlighting that the off the pitch issues are making the issues on the pitch that much harder |
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Post by thatloudbloke on Jul 10, 2016 15:19:50 GMT
In My honest opinion we as fans need to take a step back for a short while and lets see what the board are offering the ST, yes we are not happy but unless we have the ammunition to rid the board we as fans are making a lot of noise but to no end, i have been very vocal on this, facebook & on thursday of my thought, not really changed how i feel but just thinking stand back a short while & see what happens, if we need to regroup & fight again that's what we can do, just think we need to have a battle plan & not just launch into this, i look back & all the noise we & ST have made have not really worked, & also i think we should not discourage away support as these are the people that we will need when the club is functioning to its best capacity & yes players do just read headlines & this will not help us put players on the pitch, also what effect is this having on the lads that are with us now... we need to have a squad capable of keeping us in this league, so as before when we get stable we dont have to climb so far....
i will wait for what i expect will be allot of backlash...
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Post by kentenigmawcfc on Jul 10, 2016 15:43:08 GMT
In My honest opinion we as fans need to take a step back for a short while and lets see what the board are offering the ST, yes we are not happy but unless we have the ammunition to rid the board we as fans are making a lot of noise but to no end, i have been very vocal on this, facebook & on thursday of my thought, not really changed how i feel but just thinking stand back a short while & see what happens, if we need to regroup & fight again that's what we can do, just think we need to have a battle plan & not just launch into this, i look back & all the noise we & ST have made have not really worked, & also i think we should not discourage away support as these are the people that we will need when the club is functioning to its best capacity & yes players do just read headlines & this will not help us put players on the pitch, also what effect is this having on the lads that are with us now... we need to have a squad capable of keeping us in this league, so as before when we get stable we dont have to climb so far.... i will wait for what i expect will be allot of backlash... You'll get no backlash from me my friend. Everyone is free to make their own minds up over this one. I think you are putting a little too much faith in the Hampster offering anything more than discussions, though if he were to offer the Trust and shareholders a genuine agreement for change and an acceptable time scale that is guaranteed, I am willing to listen and if the Trust ask me to call a halt I will. Until then I will follow the path that I feel might make the biggest difference and regrettably their most vulnerable point is in the pocket right now as they have a proven track record of preventing change and stalling for time without anything being delivered but more of the same. I want to be proven wrong and be almightily surprised and live in hope this can be sorted out in the best interest of the Club, Trust, shareholders and supporters but I am being ruled by the instinct that this is just another red herring delaying ploy by the Board, so I will watch with interest. |
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