More Sixways move paper talk

[wcfcnb82]

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How long can these Sixways stories go on? Is this the plan B they refuse to tell us all? all rubbish if you ask me, and Warriors already stated they won't entertain us. Just because they have an artificial pitch, can't see that changing their mind.

[creaner]

There are two things to consider which we need to think of differently- where we play and how we survive long term. Where we play, Perdiswell, Bromsgove, Sixways whatever isn't the question that's being asked tonight. It's about how do we do things differently so as not to have history repeat itself and find us struggling but in a different location. Changing to community (CBS) ownership means serving the wider community. It's about protecting assets making sure that money the club makes must be reinvested back into the CBS. It relies on having community objectives written into everything we do as well as being recognised by public bodies and grant funders as a community body that exists to achieve shared interests.

Don't be fooled with promises of jam tomorrow, we need to change to a model that gives us a chance to survive and prosper, wherever we end up. The mythical plan B needs to address the basic issue of why the current model has failed and what the alternative structures could be- not just move around as exiles till our grim demise

[citytoon]

Sixways would surely be no different to being in exile, with the exception of maybe a few more fans through the gate due to being not as far to travel. We would still be paying rent (at a rate which we wouldn't be able to afford) and not have the flexibility to raise sufficient off the pitch revenue that comes with owning your own ground. This is not a viable alternative to Perdiswell as far as I can see and is covering old ground with the artificial pitch making little difference. If this is the mystery "plan B" then god help us.

Community (CBS) ownership makes so much sense. You only have to look at the photos that flick across on the club home page at the moment to see the good work that is being done by the ST in the community. We need a club that has the structure to build on this. Club + community = survival.

[wcfcnb82]

Completely agree, it's the only way for survival looking at it, a way of bringing in income and financial support from grants. But unfortunately Hampson and a couple of the cronies will scupper this move tonight and we will up the a certain creek without a paddle!
Wherever we end up, we cannot carry on as we are, drastic changes have to be made, but we all know deep down they have no interest in these CBS plans RIP WCFC.

[thesecondjack]

Reasons why Sixways is not a viable option:

1. It's far too big - We filled Aggborough to about 10% of its capacity (6,444), Sixways holds 12,024, it'll be like a ghost town at our games.
2. Stewarding costs - I imagine we would have to have a large number of stewards for each game (many more when there's a large away following), costing the club money we don't have.
3. The artificial turf is too long - this may seem like an odd one, but Rugby is played on longer grass than football, the ball wouldn't roll as well as needed.
4. The cost - We couldn't afford Aggborough, a 6,400 capacity football stadium, there's no chance of us being able to afford a 12,000 capacity rugby stadium
5. The club would still have no assets, and would have to reply on football income.
6. The club would still have no advertising to offer, at Bromsgrove we do have advertising space to offer.

Reasons why it might be a viable option:
1. We might get a few more fans turn up, as it is closer to our fan base.

If WCFC becomes a CBS - Community Benefit Society, at Perdiswell, the club will have advertising, higher attendances, lower stewarding costs, access to various funding schemes, have assets of its own and be able to bring in non footballing income through the facilities it has at hand. Crucially too, the club will be able to be an important part of the community. It's in the name - Community Benefit Society, It's a society that benefits the community.

[creaner]

My worry is this will be the "rabbit out of the hat" solution to all our problems tonight. Board say to shareholders why back the Trust when you can have shiny Sixways? No effort involved there at all from the club, just move in- what could possibly go wrong?

[Dodger]

As has already been stated (and on other threads too), there is no gain in moving to Sixways. As we've been told that the money will only last 2/3 years we may as well pay rent to Bromsgrove (who no doubt need the cash).

We've had Boris and the boy Gove proclaiming 'Brexit' as the way forward, do we now have Anthony and the boy Layland proclaiming 'Wrexit' is the way?

Of course, plan 'B' could be Mr Hampson getting out his cheque book to save the club so that he can become the latest comic book superhero - Hampson-man. Is it a bird? Is it a plane? ......No, it's Hampson-man......dah, dah, dah, dah.

Dodger.

[althom]

When my Grandfather, who was one of the founder directors of Worcester City FC Ltd in 1928 along with 4 others decided on the Constitution of the club, they obviously decided on certain restrictions to keep predators from getting unsavoury control of the club. This served the club well for 88 years. BUT TIMES HAVE CHANGED IN THE MODERN DAY, and the only way to survive is to change the constitution to encompass the aims of the Trust and to form a community club.
Why Hampson and Leyland and even Carl can't understand this simple fact is beyond me!

Alan Thompson

[Deleted]

Sixways have said "no". Which bit of that does Hampson fail to understand?

[jupu]

Apparently Soccersixes UK are starting up a Monday night league at Sixways (appropriate I suppose), so it seems the round ball game can be played on the new 3g pitch. I suppose it might be argued that requirements would be different for semi-professional football but clearly they are looking at various ways to maximise usage.

[Brooksiders Return!!]

I don't know who the supplier of this pitch is, but its the latest standards, with organic infill as opposed to the rubber crumb. Precedence has already been set with dual use, with Halton Stadium being certified to standard by the IRB, RFL, and FIFA and that is a rubber crumb design. If anyone has seen the Allianz Park pitch, they'd see that the days of playing rugby union on a ploughed field are well and truly over, its a billiard table!
Multi-sport, multi-use surfaces are going to be the way forward, and will only keep improving, so the playing bit aint a problem. But Sixways is just another temporary home, so its not the answer, is it?

[thesecondjack]

Yes, Sixways would just be a temporary home - one that's still not in the city of Worcester, and one that holds 12,000. Atmosphere would be non existent on crowds of under 1,000, and the place would surely cost a fortune.