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Post by thesecondjack on Mar 2, 2016 13:19:44 GMT
Leaving Aggborough, as the Chairman said it was costing the club too much Totally agree, had to be done and right thing to do, Yes we will loose players and won't be able to attract players but at the end of the day the most important thing is the club surviving. I've never fully bought into the argument that being at Kiddy will attract players, beyond being a bit closer to Birmingham, so it being easier to tap into the pool of players around that area with greater ease. There are so many clubs that do well in and around our level with terrible grounds, yet still manage to bring in good talent. Was Omar Bogle at Moors for 3 seasons because of the quality of the ground? I doubt it somehow.
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Post by dcx on Mar 2, 2016 13:23:49 GMT
Will we lose players simply because of our home ground though? Bromsgrove has good motorway links and is equally as near to Birmingham (for youth loans with Walsall and WBA) so location is probably better than Evesham.
The club is ultimately the same, the management team is the same, they style of football is (hopefully) the same, why should it matter if we aren't playing at a League 2 standard ground which is 3/4 empty every week?
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Post by thatloudbloke on Mar 2, 2016 15:22:15 GMT
I think that players should want to play for the team not where the team plays, i think allot of the current squad want to play for WCFC, i hope we can build on what we have now & get better next season, wherever we play...
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Post by jimbo on Mar 2, 2016 15:32:35 GMT
I read The Worcester News report, they seem to imply that Bromsgrove is as good as a done deal.
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Post by steves on Mar 2, 2016 17:17:55 GMT
I don't see us being too worse off at Bromsgrove.
This players being put off by the ground; it might, just, make a difference if it was Villa Park vs. a field, but probably not here. Bromsgrove is even easier and closer to Birmingham as well, so that argument doesn't wash.
How many "casual" fans just pop along from Worcester to Kidderminster? Alright, the journey is easier than Worcester to Bromsgrove I guess, but putting people off? Maybe a couple - not hundreds.
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Post by thatloudbloke on Mar 2, 2016 18:45:15 GMT
if we/Bromsgrove, (no comment) give the Bromsgrove season ticket holders the same as Harriers, we will get more support i think, because they will be able to watch a local team at an higher level & still support their own club, it could be a really good move for both clubs in the long run...
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Post by cris on Mar 2, 2016 19:42:17 GMT
if we/Bromsgrove, (no comment) give the Bromsgrove season ticket holders the same as Harriers, we will get more support i think, because they will be able to watch a local team at an higher level & still support their own club, it could be a really good move for both clubs in the long run... I think you're right in that you're likely to get more locals interested than you would in Kidderminster, although I'm not sure you'll get much interest from Bromsgrove season ticket holders as I think the majority tend to also go to most away games with them all being pretty local. For all the casual supporters for whom Bromsgrove is less convenient than Kidderminster there will be an equal number in the opposite position. The one big thing you'll not get is a "home" game in Kidderminster against Kidderminster although I'd expect you'd still get a pretty good turn out from Harriers fans and a lot of interest from locals too, so actual impact might not be as big as some think. I'm not really sure I buy the attracting players argument, ultimately players will come if you pay them and treat them well and it's not like your competing for their signature with teams playing at Wembley! Having a big flashy ground can sometimes be a reason for away teams to raise their games, I think you'll have better chance of making the VG a real home advantage (using the slope is key!!) Ultimately the Victoria Ground isn't the same standard as Aggborough, but it's as good as most grounds in NN and better than some. It also has a damn sight more character than Aggborough, you'll get full run of the stadium and 600 people in the VG will create a better atmosphere than at Kiddi. It'll also be a new ground on most your visitors so that might boost gates a bit.
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Post by The Verner on Mar 3, 2016 11:25:15 GMT
if we/Bromsgrove, (no comment) give the Bromsgrove season ticket holders the same as Harriers, we will get more support i think, because they will be able to watch a local team at an higher level & still support their own club, it could be a really good move for both clubs in the long run... Love this post, my training is rubbing off on everyone.....No Comment
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Post by The Verner on Mar 3, 2016 11:29:28 GMT
if we/Bromsgrove, (no comment) give the Bromsgrove season ticket holders the same as Harriers, we will get more support i think, because they will be able to watch a local team at an higher level & still support their own club, it could be a really good move for both clubs in the long run... I think you're right in that you're likely to get more locals interested than you would in Kidderminster, although I'm not sure you'll get much interest from Bromsgrove season ticket holders as I think the majority tend to also go to most away games with them all being pretty local. For all the casual supporters for whom Bromsgrove is less convenient than Kidderminster there will be an equal number in the opposite position. The one big thing you'll not get is a "home" game in Kidderminster against Kidderminster although I'd expect you'd still get a pretty good turn out from Harriers fans and a lot of interest from locals too, so actual impact might not be as big as some think. I'm not really sure I buy the attracting players argument, ultimately players will come if you pay them and treat them well and it's not like your competing for their signature with teams playing at Wembley! Having a big flashy ground can sometimes be a reason for away teams to raise their games, I think you'll have better chance of making the VG a real home advantage (using the slope is key!!) Ultimately the Victoria Ground isn't the same standard as Aggborough, but it's as good as most grounds in NN and better than some. It also has a damn sight more character than Aggborough, you'll get full run of the stadium and 600 people in the VG will create a better atmosphere than at Kiddi. It'll also be a new ground on most your visitors so that might boost gates a bit. Spot on. I think our gates would have suffered more next season had we had stayed at Soddenborough. Would supporters have travelled to two games at the same venue during the season ? Yes some comforts will be lost but the club and the badge are the same, the level of football is still the same, we lost players when we left the Lane....I fully believe Carl, Matt and Snapper will continue to bring in quality players.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2016 14:07:29 GMT
Is Kidderminster really easier to get to than Bromsgrove? As WR3 says a 144 bus does the job.
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Post by briandamaged on Mar 3, 2016 14:32:37 GMT
Bromsgrove's bus stands are a five minute walk if that from the Victoria Ground. Literally a quarter-mile at most. Admittedly the train station is a bit of a trek away but at least you do get a look up The Lickey Incline from the platform!
Car-parking is restricted at the ground itself but there are three pay-and-display facilities within a quarter-mile, the biggest of which is opposite the bus stands and have a multi-storey facility next to Asda. That one's busy on Saturdays. Things may improve once the DD&S Club and Imagination Street play facility are demolished to make way for another Aldi once the planners get their fingers out of one another's bottoms!
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Post by Croc on Mar 3, 2016 15:19:50 GMT
I managed to walk from Station to the centre of town in about 20-25 minutes - it'll be like walking up to SGL from Foregate Street...
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Post by wr3 on Mar 3, 2016 19:37:37 GMT
I wonder if First can be approached and offer a similar deal to what London Midland currently do. For those who aren't aware, a season ticket at the Warriors permits free travel on the services running to and from Sixways. I'm not expecting free travel to Bromsgrove, but perhaps half price?
Would also be nice if they could lay on extra services for midweek games.
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Post by cityman on Mar 15, 2016 18:22:31 GMT
Just been reading the Midland Football League Forum. It seems The Chocolate Man (aka) Prescott as been embarrassing himself and the club on his remarks about Worcester City FC. No change there then.
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Post by dragon on Mar 15, 2016 18:44:07 GMT
......and City choose to do business with him !
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Post by jimbo on Mar 15, 2016 23:27:19 GMT
Young girl on the "programme stall" at the Manchester match was telling some casual supporters that Bromsgrove was a done deal ! Incidentally, I was talking to a Worcester born & bred Kiddy supporter who said that it was more than likely that Stourbridge could take our place at Aggborough, because if they get promoted their own ground will not be an option.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2016 9:41:28 GMT
"a Worcester born & bred Kiddy supporter...." my heart shudders to think that such people exist!
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Post by wcfcnb82 on Mar 23, 2016 18:11:41 GMT
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Post by cris on Mar 23, 2016 18:52:52 GMT
Well I think he's answered his own question, it's a C graded ground. That's enough to get you up in to the NN, but an established club would need B graded, as will Redditch if they get up and stay up.
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Post by crosscountrymark on Mar 23, 2016 20:24:34 GMT
Time is racing away with the 31st March deadline looming to get our ground share sorted, it appears it will be Bromsgrove Sporting, its a worry when Jon Prescott says nothing has been agreed yet. If it is Bromsgrove I hope the club can get some home pre season games in the deal, will the club be doing their own catering at the ground as it needs some revenue streams on matchdays ?, percentage of takings from the bar on matchdays etc. My main concerns at Bromsgrove are lack of parking around the ground and on games were segregation is required the lack of areas and facilities for away supporters. The railway station at Bromsgrove is a 25 minute walk and the bus from Worcester is the 144 operated by First which goes into the bus station which is a 5 minute walk to the ground. So the WCFC board have a lot to sort out between now and the deadline and arrangements for the coming season in the clubs new ground share location.
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Post by zeke on Mar 23, 2016 21:54:18 GMT
While I appreciate that nothing can be said about next seasons ground, it must be obvious to the Club that announcing prices and season tickets will only feed the need to know. Do we really need this with still 2 weeks before we know where we'll be playing and up to 4 weeks before we know what league we'll be in?
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Post by thesecondjack on Mar 23, 2016 22:42:03 GMT
I've told you all, it's West Brom!! Lets be honest though, it doesn't take much to add two and two together. Make what you want.
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Post by cityman on Mar 23, 2016 23:26:46 GMT
According to Bromsgroves match day programme notes on the 12th March.
It was official and going ahead.
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Post by cris on Mar 23, 2016 23:33:52 GMT
According to Bromsgroves match day programme notes on the 12th March. It was official and going ahead. And according to the programme on 19 March it wasn't I think some guns were jumped I think we'll likely hear it's a done deal in the coming days
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Post by cityman on Mar 24, 2016 0:23:53 GMT
Cheers Cris so someone got (chocolate) egg on there face then.
p.s. Don't shoot the messenger. Lol
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Post by cloud on Mar 29, 2016 9:25:26 GMT
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Post by thatloudbloke on Mar 29, 2016 17:10:15 GMT
when quoting please use all the comment & yes it is 14 mile from Worcester City Center approximately 35 Mins in a car to Bromsgrove Victoria Ground,
Bromsgrove’s Victoria Ground, which is situated 14 miles away from the city centre, is understood to be where the Vanarama National League North club are poised to move their home games to.
this is not yet a definite, as usual Media licence on wording
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Post by The Verner on Mar 29, 2016 19:42:05 GMT
Before the official announcement is made I would like to say it once more.....NO COMMENT
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Post by thesecondjack on Mar 29, 2016 20:30:54 GMT
Please please please can we have the official statement start ''the club is pleased to comment...''?
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Post by The Verner on Mar 29, 2016 21:29:14 GMT
I have asked if I am able to be pictured with my arm stretched out pointing at the new venue...bit like Boddy did but with more than just a field in the background.
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