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Post by citytoon on Nov 22, 2015 17:23:25 GMT
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Post by thatloudbloke on Nov 22, 2015 17:24:41 GMT
Secondjack,I wonder if you have ever played at a decent level of football? I think not.when you play at this level or higher you need someone who connects the play from defence to the attackers,otherwise you end up knocking long ball, doing that bypasses the midfield which more times than not the ball keeps coming back nulyfing our passing game.geddes is one of our best players along with jacko with regards keeping the ball and creating attacking options. I agree with some of your comments100% about stupid red cards and inconsistency.but look at the bigger picture. when we lump it we bypass these players and make them look ineffective,surely you can see that? where does Geddes fit into the passing game, he does not even want the ball, just runs/ ambles around waiting for someone to get a free kick & then does whatever with the ball, his comment at the beginning of the season was he has lost weight & will score 20 goals plus, cannot see any of this in Sean at this time & how can you score if you keep getting bans, & at this level of football you should still train whilst banned so there should be no reason not to slot straight into the team. yes & i was a big fan of Sean's last season & the beginning of this, but he needs to get involved & make me change my mind again... as for passing we do this allot with Jacko & Deeney & Sean make as mess of his part...
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Post by thesecondjack on Nov 22, 2015 18:59:26 GMT
You don't have to have played football at a decent level, to understand how football works.
I fully agree that Geddes has shown in the past, that he is a very good play maker, and that a lot of his game is based around being able to pick out the pass that nobody else can get. He's also considered to be a good set piece taker.
You've surely got to admit that Jackman, and Deeney have been better than Geddes at picking out a pass consistently this season, and they seem to have taken his set piece role off him too, after countless poor free kicks, below par corners, and two failed penalties. Note that we have improved scoring from Corners recently, and Ellis has an assist and a goal from free kicks this week.
I think it's justified to question Sean when he hasn't been in good form for a long time. His passing hasn't been as good as others that play in his position, and the rest of his game is rather limited - he doesn't run into space as much, doesn't run back to defend as often, doesn't commit to a tackle. He doesn't look anything like the player who last year was being looked at by the likes of Burnley.
I really do hope I am proven wrong about Sean, and that he does find the form he had last year. I'll continue to applaud him and the rest of the team on and off the pitch, but I'm not convinced he'll hit form consistently again.
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Post by worcsbaggie on Nov 22, 2015 19:13:10 GMT
After about 80 minutes, I think I just saw the first successful Geddes tackle of the match. We might be up 2-0, but Geddes has been shocking Imo. Didn't go yesterday but there seems to be some sort of witch hunt going on.just seen the highlights. you say 80 mins before first tackle.look at the time in the first half when he wins the ball in his own half and plays a 40 yd ball to release Hughes thru on goal and he should have scored.hhhmmmm.fickle I think. effing winds me up when ya team wins but people cant wait to have a pop at your own players.let the managers do their job,they will decide if he ain't doing it. thatloudnloke. you also talk bol* X ..look at his free kick which was well saved and how he had a hand in the second goal which resulted in everything I said in an earlier thread. lets hammer players when they haven't been on top of their game,that's really going to help.
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Post by cityforever on Nov 22, 2015 19:20:06 GMT
Have to agree with worcsbaggie - haven't we just won 3 nil!!!!
What's the point of slagging our players off??? Yes Geds didn't have his best game but he's been out for a while, so bound to be a bit rusty. I'm sure Carl & Matt will act swiftly if they're not happy.
Sean's definitely in my team next week
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Post by simon on Nov 22, 2015 20:11:36 GMT
I would rather have Geddes in the team than not.I agree he hasn't been at his best but he is still a good quality player at our level.Ellis Deaney has just had two great games versus Boston and Telford but he looked off form earlier in the season.As for Minihan,he also looks ok at this level.Against Boston he had a couple of overlapping runs to the edge of their penalty box and drilled in good low hard crosses and defensively he looks competent. We've seen a lot worse this season,Darren Campion being one of them.
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Post by thatloudbloke on Nov 22, 2015 21:36:33 GMT
After about 80 minutes, I think I just saw the first successful Geddes tackle of the match. We might be up 2-0, but Geddes has been shocking Imo. Didn't go yesterday but there seems to be some sort of witch hunt going on.just seen the highlights. you say 80 mins before first tackle.look at the time in the first half when he wins the ball in his own half and plays a 40 yd ball to release Hughes thru on goal and he should have scored.hhhmmmm.fickle I think. effing winds me up when ya team wins but people cant wait to have a pop at your own players.let the managers do their job,they will decide if he ain't doing it. thatloudnloke. you also talk bol* X ..look at his free kick which was well saved and how he had a hand in the second goal which resulted in everything I said in an earlier thread. lets hammer players when they haven't been on top of their game,that's really going to help. if you dont go and watch how can you comment, 1 free kick & a couple of balls is not Bol*x but we pay our monies & go to games so i think we have more of a reason to comment
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Post by thesecondjack on Nov 22, 2015 22:32:23 GMT
I'll hold my hands up on the 80 minutes thing, I went to the loo at about 35 minutes and was told Hughes had a chance at goal whilst I was in there - this must have been it. So make that 2 tackles in 80 minutes. It's not just a couple of us, it's a lot of us who think Geddes is under performing - these are what have been said already:
ThatLoudBloke said: Geddies was the worst no commitment in the challenge & did not allot elsewhere...
dcx: Geddes was awful today, I appreciate there are games where nothing goes for you but it was his sheer lack of effort, just sauntering about that was incredibly poor today. Ability wise he is one of the best we have but his attitude and laziness is inexcusable. He's good, but not that good.
Bob from Arbroath said: Sean Geddes is a worry. Was last season a one off?
worcester1066 said: as for geddes, I just forgot he was playing, We all know what he can do when his confidence is up so I believe he is worth persevering with, something will go his way and at least no one on the terraces is getting directly on his back., but we are all waiting for him to turn it on.
The last is certainly worth paying attention to. ''at least no one on the terraces is getting directly on his back'' We do support the team. We do back players when they're having a bad spell. If anything, I think the number of fans who have been applauding the team off the pitch at the end of the game has increased this season on last - Myself, I'm always in there cheering the lads off.
Leicester fans are really enjoying their time at the top of the prem at the moment, but a quick look on their forum and you'll find them talking about players who aren't doing as well as they should, who has made errors and so on - There's nothing wrong with talking after a match about who did what well, and who didn't do what well. It's football - it happens.
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Post by miserablesod on Nov 22, 2015 23:48:15 GMT
Worcsbaggie - are you Sean Geddes? You are always very quick to jump to his defence.
There is no witch hunt at all. People are happy with the win, it's just, he had a poor game yesterday after being needlessly sent off a few weeks ago, after a few poor performances beforehand. From a fans point of view, he seems to have a bad attitude at times.
I guess this is the problem with him being our star player last year and seemingly looking disinterested at times, this season. People expect more, and at the moment, he isn't delivering. Maybe he should smash in a hat-trick next week and all Will be well.
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Post by The Verner on Nov 22, 2015 23:53:40 GMT
Why would we expect Gedds to be winning loads of challenges ? He is a player like Paul Scholes...he should be in and around the box and supporting Hughesy...the challenges should be comimg in from Deeney and Jackman behind him.
Gedds didnt have a good game and anyone who follows the clubs facebook page will see that he has actually said "he had a mare"..but knowing what he can do and looking at our other options...rather see him playing and doing his business...he just needs to get back into the groove and get back to scoring goals
On George Nash, he has been a regular for Banbury, they currently sit in 4th...same league as Evesham
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Post by thesecondjack on Nov 23, 2015 0:54:43 GMT
We shouldn't - I mean to say that Jacko and Deeney have been putting in those challenges, as well as being the play maker.
Fair play to Sean for saying he had a mare, that's won him a brownie point from me. Should he score a hat-trick next week, I'll be delighted. I might even offer to buy him a drink.
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Post by bladesman on Nov 23, 2015 9:01:16 GMT
Interesting thread this. We win a second game in succession, with a 3-0 margin and we get exercised by a debate about Sean's play, rather than celebrating the undoubted improvement in the team's performance in recent weeks. The guy even has the balls to put his hand up and say he had a mare (although I don't share that view). That's entirely in keeping with a bloke who is as straight as the day is long, who works in a factory during the week, and who is capable of turning a game round even when he has a quiet day at the office - witness the pass for Hughes, and the pass to Jackman. He, along with Danny and Ellis, form a midfield that many teams around us would give their collective right arms for.
Still, each to their own, eh? I'm really enjoying the football City are playing - it's positive and entertaining and means that I turn up to watch even when it's freezing. Anybody else here think that Aggborough is somehow colder than St George's Lane? Is it because it's further North? Or is it just the rush of air as Tristian leaves a defender for dead?
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Nov 23, 2015 10:26:48 GMT
Let's just be happy - we've won two games in a row and just been to Bramall Lane ! We've all known a lot, lot worse than that ! It's a team game and some weeks some players will play better than others. All the players have ability, and the management try to get that week in and week out consistency from them. If they all played brilliantly every week, they wouldn't be in National League North ! I think that IF we can get our best X1 out most weeks, then we are a match for any team in the Division. I think that all the sendings off have killed us with all the disruptions, and we just need to keep everyone on the pitch to more than compete. The depth of the squad is very good at the moment. Gudger continues to impress and I wouldn't be surprised if bigger clubs were looking at him, and Jackman has been excellent the last 2 games. We all know what Geddes can do, so it's only a matter of time. A long run in the team will soon see him get back to form. There are goals in the team, and the spirit and determination is there to enable us to go on a good run in both Trophy and League. Enjoy it !
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Post by citytoon on Nov 23, 2015 12:32:15 GMT
Let's just be happy - we've won two games in a row and just been to Bramall Lane ! We've all known a lot, lot worse than that ! It's a team game and some weeks some players will play better than others. All the players have ability, and the management try to get that week in and week out consistency from them. If they all played brilliantly every week, they wouldn't be in National League North ! I think that IF we can get our best X1 out most weeks, then we are a match for any team in the Division. I think that all the sendings off have killed us with all the disruptions, and we just need to keep everyone on the pitch to more than compete. The depth of the squad is very good at the moment. Gudger continues to impress and I wouldn't be surprised if bigger clubs were looking at him, and Jackman has been excellent the last 2 games. We all know what Geddes can do, so it's only a matter of time. A long run in the team will soon see him get back to form. There are goals in the team, and the spirit and determination is there to enable us to go on a good run in both Trophy and League. Enjoy it ! This.
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Post by Tim Munslow on Nov 23, 2015 15:00:03 GMT
Simon says above "..I would rather have Geddes in the team than not" and those are my sentiments entirely; he can turn a game with one bit of magic, although admittedly we have seen much magic lately. Just remember he's been out for three matches - wouldn't you be a bit ring rusty? Even if he did have a mare there's players around him who didn't, which balances itself out over a season. I don't like the way players come in for criticism on here for one bad game. I would defend Sam Minihan too; his energy gets him through and the loan player he marked (Austin) looked Telford's best player.
Danny Jackman and Alex Gudger were the stand-outs for me : both had excellent games, and Ellis Deeney had another good game too, capping it with the perfect free-kick, after which Telford subsided. It was a good weekend for the Deeney brothers as Troy scored two - admittedly one through his own net!
After their first-half performance you gotta feel sorry for Telford: they were the brighter of the two sides and you can only assume City had a half-time roasting. We were a bit like Boston the other night in the first half - couldn't put two passes together.
Still, I'll settle for six points and a rise of seven places in one week. More please lads!
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Post by harley on Nov 23, 2015 16:02:19 GMT
It all comes down to the old saying form is temporary class is permanent. Final game of last season Jose Veiga had a nightmare game and people said to me "glad he's going he's rubbish". Well he was a good goalkeeper and had a bad game. I've said on another thread I'm not sure about Ashley Vincent and earlier in the season worcsbaggie said this about Ellis Deeney I see Ellis has been picked again.....".what a joke" We're heading in the right direction, players coming back from suspension and injury so here's hoping we get through Brackley and then continue climbing the league.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2015 17:14:56 GMT
"you gotta feel sorry for Telford" surely that's a bit much, even allowing for your good nature Tim!
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Post by Tim Munslow on Nov 23, 2015 20:28:39 GMT
I am an old sentimentalist at heart!
The way they outplayed us at times in the first half, and yet lost 3-0, I had to feel sorry for them.
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Post by crosscountrymark on Nov 24, 2015 10:42:21 GMT
A decent second half performance secured the points against a AFC Telford side who were well in the game in the first half and looked the side likely to score the first goal. The changes at half time due to injuries to Tyler Weir and Tom Sharpe, with Wayne Thomas and Tristian Dunkley gave us more balance to the side with Danny Jackman slotting in at left back and we looked better up front. It was nice to see us score three excellent goals and looking like the side who should be climbing the table with the squad we have. Alex Gudger is showing why Carl And Matt signed him from Rugby town who play two league below us, seems to get better every game I see him in and could attract the attention of other clubs. A mention for Ellis Deeney in midfield who like Danny Jackman put in a decent shift for the side and overall a good team performance. I don't want to get involved in any of the previous negative posts about the two players mentioned on this thread, any player who has a poor game knows it themselves and the joint managers will decide if they are good enough to retain their place, as long as they give their best for the club that's all we can ask for. At the end of the day we are in 14th place and won the last two home games so a winning team will bring confidence to the whole side and with a decent squad we should be pushing on in the league. Tom Sharpe has a one match suspension to serve from the sending off at Stalybridge, not sure if he will miss the FA Trophy game at Brackley Town on Saturday ?.
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Post by ac on Nov 24, 2015 18:07:56 GMT
Tom Sharpe has a one match suspension to serve from the sending off at Stalybridge, not sure if he will miss the FA Trophy game at Brackley Town on Saturday ?. Yes, the ban is this Saturday.
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Post by Bob from Arbroath on Nov 24, 2015 21:30:00 GMT
I agree Geddes should be in the team, but i stand by my comment that "he's abit of a worry". Maybe now he can get a run of games without suspension & rediscover the form of last season. He's a definite asset to the club and i'm glad he's on our books not someone elses.
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Post by Row Zed on Nov 25, 2015 9:11:08 GMT
Tom Sharpe has a one match suspension to serve from the sending off at Stalybridge, not sure if he will miss the FA Trophy game at Brackley Town on Saturday ?. Yes, the ban is this Saturday.
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Post by Row Zed on Nov 25, 2015 9:14:43 GMT
Forgive me if I'm wrong is tom Sharpe not banned for 3 games then as wasnt it a straight red when he got sent off ?
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Post by glevumblues on Nov 25, 2015 16:20:26 GMT
Surely it's only one match if it's for a foul that prevents a goal-scoring opportunity?
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Post by harley on Nov 25, 2015 16:33:25 GMT
It wasn't serious foul play or violent conduct and he has not been sent off before this season so just the one match ban
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Post by Row Zed on Nov 25, 2015 18:13:53 GMT
It wasn't serious foul play or violent conduct and he has not been sent off before this season so just the one match ban Thanks for the info,I didn't know either way so I'm happy that's the case as a 3 gamer would have been a far bigger headache I'm sure
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