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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2010 13:03:50 GMT
Any news on our mythical new stadium? Only its coming up to 2 months since we were told that the planning application would be presented to the Council in 2/3 weeks! Although of course this was a revised figure from the original "soon after the general election" quoted!
If WCFC are supposedly joint applicants, then why dont they present the application to planning themselves? They are being held back somewhat unreasonably by their partner here, who have no right to stall in this way!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2010 20:25:02 GMT
Ok, two whole months are now up. Surely SMD cant be allowed to mess about like this! They need to piss or get off the pot! WCFC might not be important to them (apart from as a catalyst in a potential retail development) but it bloody well matters to us!! It matters massively to me at the moment, I'm reviewing my will, and I'll obviously have to change the desires for my ashes, but where will they now be scattered??
Seriously though, I'm getting the feeling that the actions (or lack of) from SMD are getting beyond a joke. Releasing little teasers of grounds plans, promises of more jam tomorrow, and all to drag the process out as long as they can! A fine joint partner they're looking to be!!
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Post by canalender on Oct 11, 2010 0:37:34 GMT
The plans are not being considered at this months planning meeting so its going to be November before they kicked out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2010 8:05:56 GMT
If only  I admire you optimism that this shower of shite called SMD have any intention of getting it in so soon! |
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Post by Bstander on Oct 12, 2010 6:26:54 GMT
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Post by pendulum on Oct 12, 2010 7:43:25 GMT
after all this time they now they know they have to get out of the contract!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2010 7:53:28 GMT
Finally!!!! I applaud you Anthony Hampson!!
Now the hard work begins, we have to make sure everyone has the same message.
The Board of WCFC cannot justify Nunnery Way
The Supporters Trust cannot justify Nunnery Way
The supporters of WCFC cannot justify Nunnery Way
The shareholders of WCFC cannot justify Nunnery Way
The City Council cannot justify Nunnery Way
Nunnery Way is simply an unviable proposition for WCFC, and the contracts in place with SMD do not act in the best interest of the football club. SMD must be made to do the right thing, and to release WCFC from the nightmare of Boddy's Field of Dreams!!
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Post by Tony is not to despondent now. on Oct 12, 2010 8:36:21 GMT
Finally!!!! I applaud you Anthony Hampson!! Now the hard work begins, we have to make sure everyone has the same message. The Board of WCFC cannot justify Nunnery Way The Supporters Trust cannot justify Nunnery Way The supporters of WCFC cannot justify Nunnery Way The shareholders of WCFC cannot justify Nunnery Way The City Council cannot justify Nunnery Way Nunnery Way is simply an unviable proposition for WCFC, and the contracts in place with SMD do not act in the best interest of the football club. SMD must be made to do the right thing, and to release WCFC from the nightmare of Boddy's Field of Dreams!! Hear! Hear! |
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Post by rushwickdon on Oct 12, 2010 9:10:19 GMT
I bought the WN this morning after seeing the billboard outside the newsagent, which proclaimed "WORCESTER CITY STADIUM SHOCK"
So I bought it expecting to find that Nunnery Way was deemed to be perfectly viable after all, and the costs had plummeted to only 1.4 million pounds. So, yes, it was a shock!
Wonder how Mr "That Lot Have Got Prepared Questions", from the cricket club meeting, is feeling right now.
Oh, and thanks to the Worcester News for getting there, admittedly just a little late......
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2010 9:31:45 GMT
Aren't St Mowden's screwed without the stadium? Their whole development is threatened. Surely this gives us some bargaining power?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2010 9:47:33 GMT
Ealing, the development is screwed full stop!!! It was screwed from the time that Inspector Clive Richardson published his report back in 2005. The plan back then was questioned as to which was the main development and which was the enabler when the split was 50:50 - Now with a 75:25 split in favour of the mixed retail part, it was never going to get through planning. It was further screwed by the transport requirements, such as a footbbridge costing £800,000! Then it was further screwed by the fact that Careys were never going to pay £7.3 million! "We've sold SGL for £7.3 million" said Chairman Boddy! No you didnt Dave, you signed Heads of Agreements and conditional contracts Oooops!!! Then it was even further screwed with the announcement that PCT's were being scrapped, which meant that SMD had no need to rehouse the PCT from Isaac Maddox House to Nunnery Way, so the office complex lost its prime tenant.
Ever feel like you've been well and truly screwed??
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2010 10:08:24 GMT
But does this collapse of the scheme give us any potential way out?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2010 11:08:44 GMT
Good question, SMD could say that in their view the contracts arent in any way frustrated, they've kept their side of the deal, and that they have until 2017 to formulate a satisfactory outcome. They could say that just because WCFC want out, it doesnt mean they can walk away. I don't get the feeling that SMD are the kind of company who care too much about their reputation, they've upset a few other football clubs before now.
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Post by Tim Munslow on Oct 12, 2010 14:23:41 GMT
So, the "doom-mongers" were right after all! Now, with the clock ticking, and ground-share looming, I begin to fear for the club's future, unless some miracle cavalry comes riding in to save us. Where do we go from here? Time is running out and we don't have enough funds.
This will give me nightmares for the next week or so.
Although Anthony Hampson and Co have to pick up the pieces the fault clearly lies elsewhere. The only saving grace with SMD is that, surely, they won't feel much like suing a football club with no money: the only people who'd win there would be the lawyers.
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Post by canalender on Oct 12, 2010 15:28:05 GMT
St Modwen's dealings with Swindon Town show how relentless they will chase their debtors.
An old Swindon Town administration borrowed £1.45 million from SMD & agreed to pay
£1 million interest over 3 years.
St Modwen then tried to bully a new Swindon Town administration into paying in full by issuing a winding up order.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2010 16:23:15 GMT
Actually the "doom mongers" werent "doom mongers" at all! Just genuine supporters who wanted to help the club and couldn't just stand by and watch it being torn apart. This should have given people nightmares for the last couple of years, it certainly gave me nightmares! There is no miracle cavalry to save us, they were riding in, but were given short shrift, ridiculed by the Board, and made to look like they were the ones plotting the clubs downfall! They're long gone I'm afraid, together with any funding they'd secured, and plans for a new ground elsewhere.
No, the doom mongers just told it as it was, they only dealt in facts, all backed up with public domain information, which showed from day one that this was just not feasible!
SMD are a publicly owned company, they answer to no-one but their shareholders, and they can afford the lawyers, they have their own legal teams!
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Post by cogg on Oct 12, 2010 18:48:20 GMT
Despite the feeling of "Thank God", how sad that it has ended the way those who took time to look into the 'facts' of this sorry saga all those years ago predicted
As jem says, there was a cavalry, and not just a few old fools on donkeys, but a great selection of individuals who could have got us through, if not out, of this mess, but they were ridiculed by idiots who wouldn't know their a**e from their elbow if they were sat on it....
It makes me angry and sad that this is what was allowed to go through as a 'contract' by those involved. They should ALL be banned from Worcester City games forever....
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Post by pedant on Oct 12, 2010 19:23:58 GMT
No need to ban them really. Their actions have ensured the club will be gone this time in five years. There is no magic solution. Any news from mr positive?
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Post by pendulum on Oct 12, 2010 19:55:33 GMT
No need to ban them really. Their actions have ensured the club will be gone this time in five years. There is no magic solution. Any news from mr positive? thats a bit unfair , its all down to boddy and hallmark, just because some fans didnt want to sign a petition or not agree to nunnery way does not mean that its thier fault the club will not be around in 5 years , there are all different types of fans like ones who just want to come down and support the club and watch the football plus not get involved with the off the pitch stuff , |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2010 21:37:42 GMT
Its not all down to Boddy and Hallmark, its down to everyone who let them carry on doing what they did, without even questioning them, we're all to blame in one way or another. I could have done a lot more, I still remember one of the moderators on here telling me once "I trust Dave Boddy, but why should I trust you?" Obviously we never quite did enough to get the message about the true state of the club across. But we tried! And there are enough people who will keep on trying, they just need more support.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2010 8:27:31 GMT
I would expect Boddy to be banned from the Lane now - purely for his own safety. There's a lot of people who must feel duped by this phoney failure.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2010 8:35:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2010 8:40:11 GMT
Can that really be him? Preaching "the clear process framework of planning, organising, leading and controlling."  ? Now there's a book to burn! Especially bundled with his proposed biography! But does sh1t burn? |
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Oct 13, 2010 8:41:38 GMT
Ha ha you have to laugh at Part 6 controlling the business: he certainly tried to do that and failed and what about finance and budgetry control hahahahah  PART ONE: AN INTRODUCTION TO MANAGEMENT 1. Managing in organisations 2. Models of management PART TWO: THE ENVIRONMENT OF MANAGEMENT 3. The business environment 4. The international context of management 5. Corporate social responsibility PART THREE: PLANNING 6. Planning 7. Decision making 8. Strategy 9. Marketing PART FOUR: ORGANISING 10. Organisation structure and culture 11. Human resource management 12. The developing organisation 13. Managing change PART FIVE: LEADING 14. Influence and power 15. Motivation 16. Communication 17. Teams PART SIX: CONTROLLING THE BUSINESS 18. Finance and budgetary control 19. Managing operations and quality 20. Managing information systems |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2010 9:02:36 GMT
Even the phrase "the clear process framework" is just muddled, corporate speak. It shows what a shambles business babble is. We now inhabit a world of management trained half-wits who are dependent on focus groups; tick boxes and creating further management training courses just to survive.
Is anyone really surprised that the Keith Harris look-alike from the Chamber of Commerce has produced nothing since his stand-up act at the cricket ground? Has no-one got the initiative in this country anymore to stand up with a clear idea and drive it through?
I believe they have - they're just swamped by the tide of corporate sludge we've imported from the USA.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2010 9:22:10 GMT
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Post by cogg on Oct 13, 2010 10:34:06 GMT
Sadly most of those phrases I have just generated have appeared in emails from my management this year !! :-)
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Post by bj on Oct 14, 2010 15:04:01 GMT
With regard to The Chamber of Commerce offer of help. Has anybody from the Club contacted the CofC? This is not intended as a critisism of anybody, but was there a "give us a call" scenario which was not followed up? - possibly because Mr.A thought Mr.B had done it.
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I admire you optimism that this shower of shite called SMD have any intention of getting it in so soon!
