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Post by city4evaa on Jan 31, 2010 11:55:00 GMT
when i read some threads sometimes people point out ideas to raise money, i thought there should just be one thread so people can give ideas and hopefully sombody at the club will read and take note,, so fire away....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2010 12:09:26 GMT
Raise admission fee to £15 - lets get real, we're not going to get 800 paying £11 so lets stick with 600 paying £15
Publish a list of what concessions are, a very short list, under 16, OAPs, unemployed seeking work.
List necessary proof which is accepted - no dodgy student card, or expired passports of mates.
All proof must be dated and not expired!!
Enforce it - No Proof ID, no admission on concession, even if you're 85!!
No complimentary tickets other than club volunteers and players.
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Post by michael on Jan 31, 2010 12:57:11 GMT
Raise admission fee to £15 - lets get real, we're not going to get 800 paying £11 so lets stick with 600 paying £15 Publish a list of what concessions are, a very short list, under 16, OAPs, unemployed seeking work. List necessary proof which is accepted - no dodgy student card, or expired passports of mates. All proof must be dated and not expired!! Enforce it - No Proof ID, no admission on concession, even if you're 85!! No complimentary tickets other than club volunteers and players. While rasing the prices and being strict on concessions could possibly have an increase in revenue in the short term, i think its only going to drive more people away. Attracting more people into the ground, and then making sure they come back regularly would be better. Im not sure reducing the admission price would be the way, but how about a couple of times a season, for a low key league game and or WSC games, having kids for a free and half price adult tickets. People will always spend money in the ground, and it if they enjoy the game they might come back the following week. Im sure we've done similar things in the past, but cant remember it for a while. |
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Post by jimbo on Jan 31, 2010 13:16:06 GMT
We could make a start by asking the supporters club to use the club rather than the pub
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Post by althom on Jan 31, 2010 14:24:54 GMT
It could be an idea to increase the OAP concession price to at least £7 and of course to encourage us pensioners ( many who can afford it) to go in through the full price gate!
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Post by michael on Jan 31, 2010 14:33:40 GMT
It could be an idea to increase the OAP concession price to at least £7 and of course to encourage us pensioners ( many who can afford it) to go in through the full price gate! Could experiement with a 'pay what you think its worth gate!', along the lines of the suggested donation boxes at museums.Could work both ways with people who wanted paying £15. Not sure it would catch on though, or if everyone would end up paying 1p! |
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Post by gazwcfc on Jan 31, 2010 14:59:09 GMT
I think maybe knocking a couple of quid of the entrance fee might be an idea, quite a few friends always say "yeah i will come how much is it?, what £11 your having a laugh!!" Maybe try and use the social club more? I know there has been a slight increase in events but when the club does have some sort of event on it always seem's to be down the cricket club, surely it costs money to hire a room at New Road? Why not try having some events at the club?, I'm not to sure if the social club is actually open during the week and on non-game nights? Maybe have pub quizzes and when there's big games on through out the week maybe have happy hour prices for drinks to try and entice people in? I mean the world cup is on after the season finishes, why not try and make money out of that, i mean a football tournament should give a football club an advantage? Or what about a pre-match or after match buffet for fans where you have to pay a price for a ticket to have it and try and get more fans in before or after the game? Just ideas guys so please don't bite my head off!!
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Post by DazaB on Feb 2, 2010 12:38:37 GMT
Woman's Day.
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Post by DazaB on Feb 2, 2010 12:40:07 GMT
We could make a start by asking the supporters club to use the club rather than the pub Real Ale  |
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Post by DazaB on Feb 2, 2010 12:42:12 GMT
I actually agree with Jem, £11 is ridiculous to charge for this level, so why not charge £22? I wonder if the number of full paying adults would drop by half?
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Post by harley on Feb 2, 2010 12:45:55 GMT
A bit late now unless the "big freeze" returns but buying tickets in advance for all February home games will get money in the bank if the games get postponed - these could be transferable if the ticket holder can't make the rearranged date.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2010 12:52:44 GMT
I would wager £22 that it wouldn't drop by half! Schemes to lower the price to bring more through the gate just don't work, its sad but true, watching Worcester City just isn't a compelling enough way to spend an afternoon for the majority of people of Worcester. If you halved the gate price, I would also bet that the number of full paying adults wouldn't double.
A new ground was the only hope for the club to rebrand itself, to offer that bit more, but the boneheaded insistance on an impossible enabling development scheme has killed those chances for good.
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Post by JohnInglisIsGod on Feb 2, 2010 13:42:26 GMT
real Ale - nice idea, a really nice idea but i can't see that brining too many extra people in, especially if they don't have a cellar that will keep it in the kind of condition people will want to drink it in. Might cost a fair bit to get the cellar suitable for it.
How about offering a 5year or 10 year membership at today's yearly subscription rates( X5 or 10 of course or maybe plus 10%). you could take it a step further an offer a life membership. Okay, we don't know if the club will be in existance in 5 or 10 years, and i am not sure how many would want to take that risk.
Going back 20 years there was a 6 a side cricket tournamnet held on the pitch during the summer. I remember we got to the final one year (Worcester City) but it onlyhappened for 2 years and then dropped but don't know why. An artificial surface was laid (just a carpet in the middle) and no damage was done - get 16 teams involved at £30 a team and you raise another £350 after prize money, more if the bar is kept open.
Back to football teams why not get all the local teams involved in a Worcester City FC Cup, £20 for the team to enter and there must be 50 or more teams who would enter. All you need is 11 players, doesnt have to be a league team, could be a works team just for the tournament and with the final being played at SGL under floodlights, maybe even before an evening game. All earlier rounds being played at local pitches , you could even stretch to the Semi finalsat SGL. Money to semi finalist teams and finalists. Doesnt have to be big bucks and would hope you could get a decent sponsor for the event to cover that
So many things that can be done, it just needs an individual to have the time to get things rolling and the club to support it / promote it
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Feb 2, 2010 13:47:51 GMT
I actually agree with Jem, £11 is ridiculous to charge for this level, so why not charge £22? I wonder if the number of full paying adults would drop by half? No but you can tnen be accused of penalising the loyalest supporters who cant afford a season ticket.. |
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Post by city4evaa on Feb 2, 2010 14:03:17 GMT
on a different thread i saw jcp write somthing like when you go through the turnstiles put in some money in a box for the club, even if people put in one or two quid, its still extra money
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2010 14:38:09 GMT
Took the words out of my mouth city4evaa, you could make it voluntary, it would certainly be a test to see just how much supporters really do "love" City!!
Unfortunately loyal supporters are the only ones the club has got!
What happened to the business initiatives started by Simon Williams? Just because he's not a Director yet again, it doesnt mean that he can't still do something for the club. He obviously wanted to be a part of it when he got on the Board, vociferously bemoaning the loyal hard working volunteers for being negative, but hey ho!! There's no reason why he shouldnt still want to do something positive for the football club is there???
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Post by prestonwcfc on Feb 2, 2010 17:38:39 GMT
Could it be willing for the Trust to do a bucket collection under the 'Save our Club' banner ? Not sure how much it would generate but even a hundred pounds a game is worth it
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Post by city4evaa on Feb 2, 2010 17:54:25 GMT
yeah like i said any money helps
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2010 18:29:01 GMT
Not wishing to sound defeatist but the last blanket collection I did raised something like £42.37, a couple of buttons, an extra strong mint and a condom!
We have to think of ways of raising half a million quid! AFC Wimbledon did it, but how?
I always wondered why WCFC couldnt do something like what Chelsea did (its not possible now because of Careys) when they seperated the ownership of the playing surface with the ownership of Stamford Bridge. The pitch is owned by a seperate company which I think is owned by a group of supporters, Chelsea pay a peppercorn rent to the company in order to play on the pitch. It basically means that Stamford Bridge is worthless unless its used for football or other sporting purposes.
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Post by jimbo on Feb 2, 2010 22:36:40 GMT
What about a really expensive raffle, say £10 or so per ticket. Can the Trust & some of us target areas such as premier league clubs, hotel groups etc to donate a prize worth winning. I helped do this some years ago to find business sponsors prizes being boards etc through to main sponsor.
Any one willing to form a working party on this ?
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Post by prestonwcfc on Feb 3, 2010 1:00:49 GMT
Not wishing to sound defeatist but the last blanket collection I did raised something like £42.37, a couple of buttons, an extra strong mint and a condom! We have to think of ways of raising half a million quid! AFC Wimbledon did it, but how? I always wondered why WCFC couldnt do something like what Chelsea did (its not possible now because of Careys) when they seperated the ownership of the playing surface with the ownership of Stamford Bridge. The pitch is owned by a seperate company which I think is owned by a group of supporters, Chelsea pay a peppercorn rent to the company in order to play on the pitch. It basically means that Stamford Bridge is worthless unless its used for football or other sporting purposes. What people only threw 42 pound coins at you !!  Seriously if only 40 pound a game was given it is an extra 500 by the end of the season and every little helps |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2010 8:35:17 GMT
It's no good pissing around with blankets and buckets. Too small fry and again squeezing the same old faces. The board needs refreshing with people who can reach into the local business community and raise serious money. Look at the amount of sponsorship Rich Widd attracted to the club - 10s of thousands, and how much he and Derek made for WCFC via the HKL? Again thousands. That's what we need now.
We also need legal advice to study the contracts we've been sidled with. It's time to pick over every comma on the deals done to check them over and find loopholes. It's time to attack to save ourselves - not just roll over and die with Carey's and St Mowden's dicks up our rear.
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Post by Mark on Feb 3, 2010 8:39:15 GMT
We have to think of ways of raising half a million quid! AFC Wimbledon did it, but how? Someone should ask them. |
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Feb 3, 2010 9:25:53 GMT
It's no good pissing around with blankets and buckets. Too small fry and again squeezing the same old faces. The board needs refreshing with people who can reach into the local business community and raise serious money. Look at the amount of sponsorship Rich Widd attracted to the club - 10s of thousands, and how much he and Derek made for WCFC via the HKL? Again thousands. That's what we need now. We also need legal advice to study the contracts we've been sidled with. It's time to pick over every comma on the deals done to check them over and find loopholes. It's time to attack to save ourselves - not just roll over and die with Carey's and St Mowden's dicks up our rear. Wholeheartedly agree. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2010 9:37:50 GMT
I know, it amazes me that non-league football club boards appear to operate in isolation, as if they havent got shared issues. If I was Jim Panter or Anthony Hampson, I'd be on the phone to Erik Samuelson. I'd also be on the phone to Ian Neale at Nuneaton who seems to have turned the club around since going into administration. Its a peer-to-peer call, so it has to be done by the Board.
A call into Kris Stewart from the Supporters Trust might not go amiss either. I met with a couple of the Dons Trust some years back at one of the various Supporters Direct meetings, also perhaps Dave Hall at Nuneaton, Dave has seen it all as far as setting up a Trust, trying to get the Board to allow Trust ownership, administration and planned recovery.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2010 10:29:43 GMT
This drive has to come from the board now though. It's o.k. us saying "someone should do so-and-so" but that won't happen via individuals scattered around the country - it needs to come from the board. There needs to be calls to SAG; the Trust; Jem; even Duckworth etc etc, sit down around a table and get a new board in place. Then let battle commence.
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Post by richwidd on Feb 3, 2010 10:39:25 GMT
I know, it amazes me that non-league football club boards appear to operate in isolation, as if they havent got shared issues. If I was Jim Panter or Anthony Hampson, I'd be on the phone to Erik Samuelson. I'd also be on the phone to Ian Neale at Nuneaton who seems to have turned the club around since going into administration. Its a peer-to-peer call, so it has to be done by the Board. A call into Kris Stewart from the Supporters Trust might not go amiss either. I met with a couple of the Dons Trust some years back at one of the various Supporters Direct meetings, also perhaps Dave Hall at Nuneaton, Dave has seen it all as far as setting up a Trust, trying to get the Board to allow Trust ownership, administration and planned recovery. I would follow the model set by one of the best run clubs in the Country - Norwich City. It might be worth contacting their Chief Executive - On a side note we had him in the palm of our hands a couple of seasons ago when he came to a game for the launch of Chris Green's book "Matchday". For some reason no one bothered to seek his help / guidance or opinion. I would also take a leaf out of Ken Bate's book at Leeds Utd. |
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Post by Tony is not to despondent now. on Feb 3, 2010 10:41:09 GMT
Didn't Simon Williams do this at one match? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2010 11:01:15 GMT
Rich, what are the chances of people like you, Derek, the Bentleys, Barry etc approaching the board again? Have you all had enough? Is it too late?
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Post by city4evaa on Feb 3, 2010 12:02:41 GMT
Didn't Simon Williams do this at one match? i think we should have this again as i loved the products in the bar |
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Seriously if only 40 pound a game was given it is an extra 500 by the end of the season and every little helps 
