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Post by richwidd on Oct 31, 2009 11:13:01 GMT
Just short of one year ago before the EGM, the Board gave out a very nice flyer entitled "Worcester City Football Club 2009 and beyond".
They had three key tasks:
1. Move to a new Ground debt free
2. Manage the transistion Period
3. Set up for the future.
There was a new Board with a new way of thinking.
1. Transparency
2. Information
3. Fund Raising
There was a compelling case for moving to Nunnery Way with a Nunnery Way update and "The Vision"
There were reasons why the board did not back the recent Cinderella proposals.
Then there was a page on the "Board to deliver the Plan"
Just wondering how they are doing?
Any comments Mr Positive?
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Post by mrpositive on Oct 31, 2009 15:34:57 GMT
'It doesn't take brains to criticeize; any old vulture can find a carcass!'
'Criticism is like dynamite. It has it's place, but should only be handled by experts!'
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Post by mrpositive on Oct 31, 2009 15:36:05 GMT
'Bring soulutions not problems'
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Post by mrpositive on Oct 31, 2009 15:46:06 GMT
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain - and most fools do - hence 'wheres widdy sorry wally'
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2009 16:40:27 GMT
I don't see any criticism in Rich Widds posting, he's just stating facts, and the irony is that the Board chose to criticise Cinderella ( and it was criticism, unwanted and unfounded, mentioning things like the old pavilion would be used as changing rooms, and there wasnt enough room for a stadium blah blah) yet the solution put forward by those not impressed with the Nunnery Way plan could now be considered as an alternative!!
Actually you find the fools tend to be those who don't criticise condemn or complain, the fools are the ones who do nothing, even when they are in a position to do something like you were mr positive. A board member, who sat back and let it all happen around him.
Its only the brave who are prepared to stand up and be counted, and to question the actions of others. They are not the fools.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2009 18:31:19 GMT
One of the troubling things about this whole episode has been that so many people don't stand up and ask questions. They'd rather "just watch the football" or "wait and see what happens". Pathetic.
"Its only the brave who are prepared to stand up and be counted, and to question the actions of others." Quite right - and well done to jcp and others who have stood up and questioned Hallmark and co. What's wrong with that? If the board had had any answers then the critics would have been satisfied. But they didn't.
Had the board's motives for the move to NW been honorable then they would have listened to criticisms and changed their plans. But their motives weren't honourable. Far from it.
Many have offered alternatives to this mad scheme, as well as offering experience and advice to help the club. All have been rejected. So where are your bright ideas Mr Positive? Let's hear them. But I suspect you don't have any do you? Because you're an a**e.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2009 19:16:11 GMT
And you know what, sometimes when you stand up and ask questions you respect and understand the answers, and you accept some of what is going on. Sometimes our questions do make others think a little more about what they're doing. For the first time in the history of WCFC, the Board have had their mandate questioned, and although it may now be too late, some of them are listening and taking it on board. Its such a pity that mrpositive and his buddies chose to stick their heads deep into the sand when they were trying to run the show, we may not have the depth of crap we now find ourselves in.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2009 19:19:31 GMT
One of the troubling things about this whole episode has been that so many people don't stand up and ask questions. They'd rather "just watch the football" or "wait and see what happens". Pathetic. "Its only the brave who are prepared to stand up and be counted, and to question the actions of others." Quite right - and well done to jcp and others who have stood up and questioned Hallmark and co. What's wrong with that? If the board had had any answers then the critics would have been satisfied. But they didn't. Had the board's motives for the move to NW been honorable then they would have listened to criticisms and changed their plans. But their motives weren't honourable. Far from it. Many have offered alternatives to this mad scheme, as well as offering experience and advice to help the club. All have been rejected. So where are your bright ideas Mr Positive? Let's hear them. But I suspect you don't have any do you? Because you're an a**e. I don't know why but I'm having big attacks of deja vu tonight, but anyway, Ealing, I'd have loved to have had my questions answered by Boddy, mrpositive et al when they were running the show. If just one piece of positive information had been forthcoming that showed that Nunnery Way was a viable proposition for the football club, I'd have done whatever I could to back it, but it wasnt forthcoming, it never has been. |
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Post by richwidd on Nov 1, 2009 15:40:30 GMT
'Bring soulutions not problems' There have been several people over the years who have brought solutions to the Table. You and your cosy little members only club had other interests to protect, so booted them out. One example is the Social Club. With a few minor changes and run properly it now makes profit for the Club. You were instrumental in stopping this from happening many years ago because a fellow Board member would have lost his job. "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" comes to mind. |
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Post by mrpositive on Nov 1, 2009 19:21:58 GMT
You and your wingers’ legitimacy have no foundation when you harp on about this pseudo individual you have labelled me as. Why do you not confront this person you incorrectly think I am, you would be wholly embarrassed when they look at you as if you are some sort of ‘Wally’! This example of paranoid, incorrect, ill informed and erroneous inaccuracies underpin you and your small band of followers’ continued lack of authenticity!
Get real, get better informed and bring solutions! My postings on this blog are in an effort to bring some positivity to your doom, gloom and OBVIOUS inaccurate assumptions on most issues!
Is it not this board that has turned around the social club? Try saying well done. Is it this board’s fault we have been in a global financial depression? Try thinking, what do we do now, what’s the solution? It is easy to shout and debase from the wings isn’t it!
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Post by georgethebassett on Nov 1, 2009 19:41:21 GMT
You and your wingers’ legitimacy have no foundation when you harp on about this pseudo individual you have labelled me as. Why do you not confront this person you incorrectly think I am, you would be wholly embarrassed when they look at you as if you are some sort of ‘Wally’! This example of paranoid, incorrect, ill informed and erroneous inaccuracies underpin you and your small band of followers’ continued lack of authenticity! The above post has been reported to 'The Campaign for Plain English' as a language crime  |
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Post by mrpositive on Nov 1, 2009 19:48:47 GMT
o dear, I rest my case!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2009 20:24:33 GMT
You and your wingers’ legitimacy have no foundation when you harp on about this pseudo individual you have labelled me as. Why do you not confront this person you incorrectly think I am, you would be wholly embarrassed when they look at you as if you are some sort of ‘Wally’! This example of paranoid, incorrect, ill informed and erroneous inaccuracies underpin you and your small band of followers’ continued lack of authenticity! Get real, get better informed and bring solutions! My postings on this blog are in an effort to bring some positivity to your doom, gloom and OBVIOUS inaccurate assumptions on most issues! Is it not this board that has turned around the social club? Try saying well done. Is it this board’s fault we have been in a global financial depression? Try thinking, what do we do now, what’s the solution? It is easy to shout and debase from the wings isn’t it! Explain the OBVIOUS inaccurate assumption? I don't any assumptions are being made at all, just facts, facts provided by the Board. The same Board who couldn't deliver a deal in the best economic climate possible! There was no global financial depression when the ground was supposedly "sold" for £7.36 million, so how come that "deal" has cost the club £500,000 in fee's and expenses to Careys? And how come even during this global financial depression (its actually been a recession, not a depression) the value of the land at SMD has remained the same? Totally out-negotiated, kippered by SMD, kippered by Careys, no assumptions, just facts. |
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Post by rushwickdon on Nov 2, 2009 18:34:24 GMT
Laughable Sad and laughable. Congratulations if you are not the ex-director that many think you are, mr positive- that means you have pulled the wool over a lot of peoples eyes, and you must feel so proud.
Anyway, back in the real world, you fiddle while Rome burns. I'm sure that many of us would love it if you were right, about how fantastic this board has been throughout these troubling times, and how it will all be brilliant in the future. Problem there is that you like to reel it off as if it is simply a minority of people that wish to spoil it for the majority, and, as detailed above, you cannot/will not produce any facts beyond "the board are doing a good job"......er, WHY?? HOW??
We would love it if you were proved to be right, we would love to be proved wrong, but you have to be honest and say that you are totally behind the 8 ball.
And name calling- my, how grown up.
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Post by mrpositive on Nov 2, 2009 18:54:40 GMT
I would never take a credit if it is not due, never did claim to be an ex-director yet another gross inaccuracy!
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Post by skippy on Nov 2, 2009 20:18:11 GMT
I would never take a credit if it is not due, never did claim to be an ex-director yet another gross inaccuracy! I bet you still expect to get in the club for free dont you, after all you have done so much in the past that its only right! |
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Post by DazaB on Nov 2, 2009 20:29:05 GMT
Try saying well done. Is it this board’s fault we have been in a global financial depression? I know!!! It's wiped 3.86 million GBP off the value of my house in a year! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2009 9:08:33 GMT
Can someone explain to me how the recession has hit hard in some ares (i.e. land prices at St George's Lane) but not others (land prices at Nunnery Way)?
I hear that house prices have now started to rise again. If Carey's seal a deal now it will be at the optimum time for them.
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Post by niels on Nov 3, 2009 9:22:30 GMT
House prices only ever dropped 10-15% tops but Careys are hard nosed experienced businessmen who were doing business with nieve inexperienced amateurs, k-ching. Simples.
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Post by canalender on Nov 3, 2009 12:02:25 GMT
Is it not this board that has turned around the social club? It was impossible to do worse than Jon Prescott, a 'closed' sign would have done better than Prescott. Jon Prescott was either very stupid or very clever and the very least incompetent at the task, neither he nor the club have ever explained how he managed to lose the amount of money he did. The Worcester City board, on which he sat, were derelict in their duties as directors of the club and at the very least should have removed him from his both postions he held at the club as a result of his performance. As a non-board member I can only make assumptions why this did not happen. His reward for losing the club £1000's? Free entry to the matches courtesy of David Boddy, although I believe Boddy has been told to stop this by Anthony Hampson. I can understand anybody defending the club he supports from criticism, but I cannot believe mrpositive is so lacking in intelligence to grasp what is happening within Worcester City and like a moron try to defend the indefensible. |
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Post by richwidd on Nov 3, 2009 14:03:31 GMT
You and your wingers’ legitimacy have no foundation when you harp on about this pseudo individual you have labelled me as. Why do you not confront this person you incorrectly think I am, you would be wholly embarrassed when they look at you as if you are some sort of ‘Wally’! This example of paranoid, incorrect, ill informed and erroneous inaccuracies underpin you and your small band of followers’ continued lack of authenticity! Get real, get better informed and bring solutions! My postings on this blog are in an effort to bring some positivity to your doom, gloom and OBVIOUS inaccurate assumptions on most issues! Is it not this board that has turned around the social club? Try saying well done. Is it this board’s fault we have been in a global financial depression? Try thinking, what do we do now, what’s the solution? It is easy to shout and debase from the wings isn’t it! Explain the OBVIOUS inaccurate assumption? I don't any assumptions are being made at all, just facts, facts provided by the Board. The same Board who couldn't deliver a deal in the best economic climate possible! There was no global financial depression when the ground was supposedly "sold" for £7.36 million, so how come that "deal" has cost the club £500,000 in fee's and expenses to Careys? And how come even during this global financial depression (its actually been a recession, not a depression) the value of the land at SMD has remained the same? Totally out-negotiated, kippered by SMD, kippered by Careys, no assumptions, just facts. Mr Positive cannot and will not answer any questions regarding the facts and figures. He has never come up with anything to back up his claim that those people who have questioned the figures over the past two years are wrong. He is incapable of arguing his case despite claiming several times "I rest my case". Please feel free and list at least one of the gross inaccuracies regarding the figures you claim we have made, alternatively make a one line quote of drivel like you normally do! |
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Post by Tony is not to despondent now. on Nov 5, 2009 9:41:27 GMT
Why doesn't Mr Positive come clean and tell who he is? Not hide behind a pseudonym. You can see my name on every post.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2009 11:35:51 GMT
You mean your name is new hope?
Does it really matter what mrpositives name is? His continual negative whinging, and personal attacks on supporters and shareholders make his contributions, and therefore his identity irrelevent.
He does remind me a bit of Simon Williams, with the attitude that if someone thinks differently to his own opinion, then its GOT to be negative! Which is plain silly.
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Post by birdfeeder on Nov 5, 2009 11:42:32 GMT
I think you will find is name is Tony New Hope from Stafford.
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Post by si1268 on Nov 5, 2009 11:57:49 GMT
. Why do you not confront this person you incorrectly think I am. I love to confront you Positive. Just to see this poor deluded creature who will shortly be performing a huge face plant into a great big pile of humble pie... Again  |
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Post by Tony is not to despondent now. on Nov 7, 2009 8:27:37 GMT
I think you will find is name is Tony New Hope from Stafford. You almost got it right, Colin birdfeeder. Well jcp, I took note of your comment and put my Christian name on my posts. |
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