Another one of the Dream Team resigns

[Deleted]

Cliff Slade has resigned as a Director. So another of those who was one of the Team to make the Project happen has gone. I still don't know anything about Cliff Slade, he never turned up at any of the shareholder or supporter meetings, but from what I have heard, he is a decent man, and a supporter of the club.

[greenman]

I met Cliff Slade and talked a couple of times on the Brookside, a decent man and long time supporter of the City.

Whats going on?

Surely time for an honest statement from the Chairman or is now all too late as the game is nearly up.

[DazaB]

[wh]

I met Cliff with Widdy when CS was in charge of the social club renovation and its fair to say he was seen to be towing the party line and he rejected almost ALL of Rich's suggestions and was in general very obstructive. That was a meeting I left with a very heavy heart and I knew then that the game was up.

This approach did work as Widdy was left with no choice but to withdraw any offers that had been made.

So I guess you could say that im a little miffed that he has left the scene after playing his part in that post agm fiasco and helped to keep one of the good guys away from the club!

Softly spoken amd pleasant yes but he was definitely one of the ducks that the conceited Boddy referred to at the AGM as being all in line.

All this constant fighting is winding me up again so I think its best that I stop posting/reading on here as it serves little purpose other than to wind the true fans up.
We all know what is going on and it wont get any better and yet there are some who will never get it and will continue to support this corrupt regime.

[Deleted]

Could they have lined up a more lame bunch of ducks? Hayward-Hammond-Organ, IDIFF, Slade, Prescott, Partridge, Brown. Have I forgotten any?

What annoys me is that at the moment the Board are only in control of one thing, the timing of the demise of the club, and this is being managed not for football purposes, but to maximise their reward in their association with Careys and St. Modwen. If they can prove otherwise, by doing something like commiting to remain as Directors for the next 5 years, or allowing the club to go into administration, then I'd love to hear it.

The club needs reforming somehow, the dead wood cut out, and a new club formed with Celia Adams as Chairman and a Board including Barry Ward, Derek Jones, Rich Widdowson, Paul Curtis, Richard Bentley, Sue Bentley, Rob Crean, Colin Leyland and Cecil Duckworth.

[Deleted]

Oh, and they've stopped talking to supporters now, havent they?

when was the last monthly meeting? May??

[niels]

This no supporters meetings thing has been mentioned many times now without being corrected. Those at the last meeting will recall that it was agreed that there would be no meetings during the close season, as it was felt that there would be very few people interested in attending during the holiday season.

[birdfeeder]

Aug 14, 2009 8:57:30 GMT niels said:

This no supporters meetings thing has been mentioned many times now without being corrected. Those at the last meeting will recall that it was agreed that there would be no meetings during the close season, as it was felt that there would be very few people interested in attending during the holiday season.

CORRECT

[Deleted]

Great - keep it to yourselves why not! Those of us who couldn't make that last meeting might have wanted to know that. This is the kind of information that isnt being communicated.

We still don't have the website showing the monthly financial information as Hampson suggested, we don't have this kind of information on the official website. (I'm not keen on this new website feature, open website, scroll to the fight to see any info!!) It would help!

In the meantime we've lost another Director, rumour has it that many people are being asked now if they want to join the Board, we have the SGL planning situation with Sideshow Jim trying to spin his words, we have the splitting of the two planning applications due to issues with the Nunnery Way application, and we have severe financial problems due to loss of sponsors which are causing cashflow concerns.

Perhaps they feel these issues arent important enough to involve supporters.

[LeedsWCFC]

Aug 14, 2009 10:16:09 GMT Down The Pan said:

I'm not keen on this new website feature, open website, scroll to the fight to see any info!!

I'm not aware of this 'feature'. Please let me know what's wrong and I'll look into it. I'm presuming too that you mean 'right' and not 'fight' although I can'tbe certain.

[Deleted]

nice one Leeds

Yes to the right
It appears that the left menu bar has gone horizontal instead of vertical, therefore it is "pushing" everything to the right.

Useless .net stuff! You should be using a decent Java CMS with WYSIWYG web client capabilities - www.e-spirit.co.uk

[niels]

Aug 14, 2009 10:16:09 GMT Down The Pan said:

Great - keep it to yourselves why not! Those of us who couldn't make that last meeting might have wanted to know that. This is the kind of information that isnt being communicated.

It's not a case of keeping it to myself. It's a case of me being interested enough in what is happening at the club to turn up to these meetings and listen and ask questions. If I haven't managed to attend a meeting then I will ask someone that I knew was there what was said, I don't expect people to tell me unless I enquire.

Now whether the club management should convey these things to their customers, that's a different matter.

[Deleted]

Firstly, don't get the hump fella, you arent the YOU in the message, unless you have suddenly become pleural (yourselves). Sorry I didn't use the more grandeur ONE!!
Secondly, if I could have chartered a plane from Dortmund Airport to Birmingham, instead of having to wait for the 19:50 easyJet fight to Luton, then maybe I would have been there.

[prestonwcfc]

Aug 14, 2009 10:16:09 GMT Down The Pan said:

Great - keep it to yourselves why not! Those of us who couldn't make that last meeting might have wanted to know that. This is the kind of information that isnt being communicated.

We still don't have the website showing the monthly financial information as Hampson suggested, we don't have this kind of information on the official website. (I'm not keen on this new website feature, open website, scroll to the fight to see any info!!) It would help!

In the meantime we've lost another Director, rumour has it that many people are being asked now if they want to join the Board, we have the SGL planning situation with Sideshow Jim trying to spin his words, we have the splitting of the two planning applications due to issues with the Nunnery Way application, and we have severe financial problems due to loss of sponsors which are causing cashflow concerns.

Perhaps they feel these issues arent important enough to involve supporters.

Think you will find I mentioned it just about 2 months ago on here (under The Project on the 13th June !!) so don't exactly think those attending have been keeping it top secret !!

[Deleted]

Oh FFS man, its the club that aren't communicating! As niels says "Now whether the club management should convey these things to their customers, that's a different matter. "

idiot

[prestonwcfc]

Very Big Jem - lets all resort to name calling !! I was simply pointing out as Niels has that the club consulted those at the meeting as to what they wanted and acted accordingly. Exactly what people have been demanding. Only one person started their post 'Great Keep it yourselves' yet it was put on here two months ago

[wh]

getting back to the main subject I cant help feeling that the current board could have saved most of these problems by not excluding those who wanted to help from entering the board at the AGM. In my mind Boddy is the main culprit after scuttling the Doc's excellent compromise board which had a blend of City fans and football club administration experts.

This really would have been a dream team.

[Deleted]

Are you totally thick? or just do a good impression? My beef is with the club, and its lack of communication - yet again. Thats so obviously clear. The Directors still don't get the fact that not everyone can make meetings, and that it is FAR more important for them to reach out to the 99% of the community who don't go to meetings, than the few who fit into one of two pre-defined categories, dissenters who include me, and sycophants who include you, and those positions are unlikely to change. And then you come on here ranting on about what you did on the 13th June - as if I care!
And I'm not name calling, if I think you are an idiot I'll tell you I think you are an idiot (if I thought you were a superstar and said it on here, I bet you wouldn't whinge about name calling then would you?). If you think I am an idiot, then please do tell me, instead of squirming around on the fence.
As a former poster on here said to me not long ago "Is Preston really Andy Bullock in disguise?"

I can only guess by the smug satisfaction of your post that you are quite happy that there has been no further communication from the Board, even though they have not been able to deliver what the Chairman promised in terms of financial information, or acted upon the accounts, or acted upon the Supergold, or acted upon the finances of the Social Club. The Planning application for SGL has been withdrawn after reccomendations for refusal, the two applications have been severed, the Nunnery Way application will now not be heard until the end of the year, maybe next year. And now we are back down to only 6 Directors, right back where we started over a year ago!
Even back in the Boddy era, this situation would have at least led to some kind of action from supporters, I can remember doing various radio interviews trying to increase community awareness of the plans for the New Ground when the Public Enquiry was taking place. I and many others were working with the Board on lobbying councillors re the ground, I still have all the responses from various councillors - most with similar a**e splinters to yours. Just how many supporters are working with the Board on the Ground Project now??
Situations change, and what was put to bed in May has changed dramatically, or can't you see that?

[Deleted]

Aug 15, 2009 8:33:15 GMT wh said:

getting back to the main subject I cant help feeling that the current board could have saved most of these problems by not excluding those who wanted to help from entering the board at the AGM. In my mind Boddy is the main culprit after scuttling the Doc's excellent compromise board which had a blend of City fans and football club administration experts.

This really would have been a dream team.

I entirely agree, although I still get the feeling that Boddy was acting "under orders" Directors get pilloried, often for good reason, but Doc Sorenson pulled off a major coup by getting to a position of compromise - a "middle way" Whatsmore, there was still room for a little more compromise, which SHAG would have ceded to put things together for the good of the club. The compromise would have brought together all factions, from the Board, from within the Supporters, it would have brought back sponsors and regained the trust of the shareholders.
What we now have is a Board which although trying to appear more open, is actually more closed and insular than the last Board, with the ability to manipulate and manage out situations. Cliff Slades resignation was buried. The accounts have been buried, any investigation into the social club and the Supergold has been buried. Supporter involvement has been shunned, even the matter of the Carey application refusal has been demoted to little more than a "sideshow" as far as supporters should be concerned. This is definitely a Board more than any other that can make the move to Nunnery Way happen, that is without doubt. I reckon this Board could make a move to the M4 IT corridor happen!

Its been said before, but what we need now is one brave man on the inside to stand up. A man who prides himself on being a football man. There is still time.

[prestonwcfc]

Aug 15, 2009 8:47:25 GMT Down The Pan said:

Are you totally thick? or just do a good impression? My beef is with the club, and its lack of communication - yet again. Thats so obviously clear. The Directors still don't get the fact that not everyone can make meetings, and that it is FAR more important for them to reach out to the 99% of the community who don't go to meetings, than the few who fit into one of two pre-defined categories, dissenters who include me, and sycophants who include you, and those positions are unlikely to change. And then you come on here ranting on about what you did on the 13th June - as if I care!
And I'm not name calling, if I think you are an idiot I'll tell you I think you are an idiot (if I thought you were a superstar and said it on here, I bet you wouldn't whinge about name calling then would you?). If you think I am an idiot, then please do tell me, instead of squirming around on the fence.
As a former poster on here said to me not long ago "Is Preston really Andy Bullock in disguise?"

I can only guess by the smug satisfaction of your post that you are quite happy that there has been no further communication from the Board, even though they have not been able to deliver what the Chairman promised in terms of financial information, or acted upon the accounts, or acted upon the Supergold, or acted upon the finances of the Social Club. The Planning application for SGL has been withdrawn after reccomendations for refusal, the two applications have been severed, the Nunnery Way application will now not be heard until the end of the year, maybe next year. And now we are back down to only 6 Directors, right back where we started over a year ago!
Even back in the Boddy era, this situation would have at least led to some kind of action from supporters, I can remember doing various radio interviews trying to increase community awareness of the plans for the New Ground when the Public Enquiry was taking place. I and many others were working with the Board on lobbying councillors re the ground, I still have all the responses from various councillors - most with similar a**e splinters to yours. Just how many supporters are working with the Board on the Ground Project now??
Situations change, and what was put to bed in May has changed dramatically, or can't you see that?

At least I now know I am a thick, idiotic sycophant who does impressions. But hey sticks and stones. Really pleased that you did all that work in the past. But remember one thing it is that THE PAST. All i can see in the last two years is moan, moan, moan, but i'm sure you know you are right. Personally I do hope the club survives as these are testing times, but remember it wasn't only the current board who got us to where we are today. In the meantime I will continue to support the club by attending as many games as I can. Do I support he board ? Well they can always do better but in just 6 months i'd say things have improved, some of which haven't been mentioned on here so you probably wouldn't know unless you went to the ground.

Oh and just for the record I don't think I did rant on here about my comment of the 13th. I was simply pointing out to somebody complaining that it had been kept quite. There only seems to be one person ranting on here, cue round 2

[prestonwcfc]

Aug 15, 2009 8:33:15 GMT wh said:

getting back to the main subject I cant help feeling that the current board could have saved most of these problems by not excluding those who wanted to help from entering the board at the AGM. In my mind Boddy is the main culprit after scuttling the Doc's excellent compromise board which had a blend of City fans and football club administration experts.

This really would have been a dream team.

WH don't think anybody can really argue with this

[Deleted]

Aug 15, 2009 9:52:01 GMT prestonwcfc said:

Aug 15, 2009 8:47:25 GMT Down The Pan said:

Are you totally thick? or just do a good impression? My beef is with the club, and its lack of communication - yet again. Thats so obviously clear. The Directors still don't get the fact that not everyone can make meetings, and that it is FAR more important for them to reach out to the 99% of the community who don't go to meetings, than the few who fit into one of two pre-defined categories, dissenters who include me, and sycophants who include you, and those positions are unlikely to change. And then you come on here ranting on about what you did on the 13th June - as if I care!
And I'm not name calling, if I think you are an idiot I'll tell you I think you are an idiot (if I thought you were a superstar and said it on here, I bet you wouldn't whinge about name calling then would you?). If you think I am an idiot, then please do tell me, instead of squirming around on the fence.
As a former poster on here said to me not long ago "Is Preston really Andy Bullock in disguise?"

I can only guess by the smug satisfaction of your post that you are quite happy that there has been no further communication from the Board, even though they have not been able to deliver what the Chairman promised in terms of financial information, or acted upon the accounts, or acted upon the Supergold, or acted upon the finances of the Social Club. The Planning application for SGL has been withdrawn after reccomendations for refusal, the two applications have been severed, the Nunnery Way application will now not be heard until the end of the year, maybe next year. And now we are back down to only 6 Directors, right back where we started over a year ago!
Even back in the Boddy era, this situation would have at least led to some kind of action from supporters, I can remember doing various radio interviews trying to increase community awareness of the plans for the New Ground when the Public Enquiry was taking place. I and many others were working with the Board on lobbying councillors re the ground, I still have all the responses from various councillors - most with similar a**e splinters to yours. Just how many supporters are working with the Board on the Ground Project now??
Situations change, and what was put to bed in May has changed dramatically, or can't you see that?

At least I now know I am a thick, idiotic sycophant who does impressions. But hey sticks and stones. Really pleased that you did all that work in the past. But remember one thing it is that THE PAST. All i can see in the last two years is moan, moan, moan, but i'm sure you know you are right. Personally I do hope the club survives as these are testing times, but remember it wasn't only the current board who got us to where we are today. In the meantime I will continue to support the club by attending as many games as I can. Do I support he board ? Well they can always do better but in just 6 months i'd say things have improved, some of which haven't been mentioned on here so you probably wouldn't know unless you went to the ground.

Oh and just for the record I don't think I did rant on here about my comment of the 13th. I was simply pointing out to somebody complaining that it had been kept quite. There only seems to be one person ranting on here, cue round 2

At least I know that you have an incredibly low opinion of your own self worth - how strange.

I am very pleased though to hear of some positive news from the board, but slightly concerned that it is only communicated via terrace tittle-tattle, however, please enlighten me and those who wish to hear of good news.
Tell me what the Board has done which is so positive - I seriously wish to know, there's no point in keeping such good news between 600 people at a football ground! People like me and Archie really do want to hear some good positive news - so fire away! You never know, it might get some stayaways back to the ground!!

And yes I moan, if something isn't right, then I complain. Something wrong with that?

[Deleted]

Aug 15, 2009 9:52:56 GMT prestonwcfc said:

Aug 15, 2009 8:33:15 GMT wh said:

getting back to the main subject I cant help feeling that the current board could have saved most of these problems by not excluding those who wanted to help from entering the board at the AGM. In my mind Boddy is the main culprit after scuttling the Doc's excellent compromise board which had a blend of City fans and football club administration experts.

This really would have been a dream team.

WH don't think anybody can really argue with this

So where was your backing at the time?

[Deleted]

Just got to my hotel following tonights game, and all I can say is based on the last two games we are in for a tough season.

Tonight the word tactically nieve probably sum up performance.

Why for example did it take 40 mins for the wing backs to start to stretch the game on a wide pitch when we attacked

Why did we have just 1 shot in the first half and not one on goal kicking down the slope second half

Why can we not put our foot on the ball

Why do we feel that in the current squad we don't need a ball player like Cornes or even Rob Davies

Why did RD not even stay on the pitch to applaud those who suffered tonights game. Surely we at least deserved that

My concern is despite different personnel the last two games have produced nothing different tactically to the last 6 months of last season, yet general opinion is that we have a better team than we had 12 months ago.

I have for a number of months thought that maybe having two defensive minded players may be the reason and that coaching the strikers may be limited. Martin Butler could therefore be a better signing than we think.

Personally the only players to emerge with any credit tonight were Rob Elvins, Graham Ward and until his late error Richard Mace.

That surely leaves one possible option. I suspect if things don't improve eyes will be cast to our manager

MOAN MOAN MOAN MOAN MOAN

Its only a game, and you know nothing about football management - armchair footballers!!!

[cogg]

Good to have you back Mr Positive ;-)

[Deleted]

Do I support he board ? Well they can always do better but in just 6 months i'd say things have improved, some of which haven't been mentioned on here so you probably wouldn't know unless you went to the ground.

I'm still waiting to be enlightened. Why are you hiding this positive news that the vast community of Worcester, which doesnt go to games, might want to hear? You want to support the club, yet you could be sitting on news that puts 50 more people through the gate each game? £250 extra per week could mean a new player!

[canalender]

Should this be called the jcp rant thread?

[Deleted]

Call it what you like, but if it will get likes of this guy Preston to enlighten lapsed supporters with the positive news which is happening at WCFC then surely thats a good thing. Of course if he just sits on it, or worse, he's actually only pretending that there is good news, then there's nothing to be done.
I'm just concerned that someone who says he supports the club should keep such good news to himself, and in doing so could be harming the club.

[Deleted]

Okay, I admit defeat. If I just sound like I'm ranting, then clearly no-one is getting the message anymore.
Those who understand whats going on have pretty much left the scene now, those who don't? well they obviously never will.

I'll leave you with possibly the one most niaive statement I've seen

In the meantime I will continue to support the club by attending as many games as I can.

That is music to the ears of the Project Team

[rushwickdon]

jcp- oh wise one, please show us the light. Tell us what we are missing. Many of us are singing from the same hymn sheet on here, some talk rubbish but hey......as opposed to the board?? The "I'll support my team no matter what" lot cannot/choose not to see the bigger picture...the supporters club are unable to see beyond the next away game (if they can be bothered to organise travel)....the supporters trust are doing what they can but are hamstrung by the other two.....and round and round we go.