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Post by niels on Jun 5, 2009 12:07:22 GMT
City have signed Stafford Rangers defender Wayne Daniel according to the City website.
I think this is a quality signing. He was always excellent against us and although 32 should have a couple of years left.
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Post by StopfordianWCFC on Jun 5, 2009 12:12:30 GMT
He's a big lad and very experienced. Not the quickest, but with him and Kemp we should have some real muscle at the heart of defence.
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Post by hampster on Jun 5, 2009 12:52:28 GMT
Good signing. Well done Dicky D, I think this guy is the perfect replacement for Jon Richardson and will bring much needed experience. Give the guy the captains armband to and lets have some leadership back on the pitch instead of waster Wilding.
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Post by georgethebassett on Jun 5, 2009 12:57:34 GMT
Wayne is a legend at Marston Road - one of the best defenders this level of football has seen. He's getting on in years but was still Rangers' MOM more often than any other player last season. A terrific guy too. This is brilliant news.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2009 13:30:11 GMT
It always makes me laugh when supporters go on about "terrific signings" when a decent players joins your side, but the player and the team have to be right, a lot of "stalwarts" move on and find it a little difficult in their new surrounds. I always thought Paul Joinson was a "terrific signing" and Evran Wright, and Keith Scott, but none of them ever performed. I actually thought that signing Keith Knight was a good move, but what a disappointment he turned out to be. If you look at City's most prolific players over the years, very few of them had carved a decent reputation anywhere else, and those who gained Legend status at SGL never managed to repeat it when they left I'm sure there are one or two exceptions though.
Hopefully he'll be able to fit into the way Dryden wants them to play next season, but captains armband? Lets see if it works out for him as a player first.
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Post by DrAgony on Jun 5, 2009 13:59:57 GMT
Can't remember where, but I thought I'd read that Tom Kemp is to be captain next year.
Anyway, this looks like an decent and shrewd signing, especially in our current cash-strapped situation.
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Post by Tony is not to despondent now. on Jun 5, 2009 14:47:54 GMT
City have signed Stafford Rangers defender Wayne Daniel according to the City website. I think this is a quality signing. He was always excellent against us and although 32 should have a couple of years left. We shall see! |
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Post by georgethebassett on Jun 5, 2009 15:32:33 GMT
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Post by thegeezerishone on Jun 5, 2009 17:45:19 GMT
good news indeed much needed experience at the back
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Post by prestonwcfc on Jun 5, 2009 22:39:13 GMT
Pleased with this already the defence is looking stronger.
So far with Meredith, Ward, Shab, Kemp, Spencer and now Daniel looks really positive. Will be interesting if City follow up their interest in Mark Clyde aswell
Hopefully Daniel can also defend facing his own net unlike JR.
Now for a striker or two !!!
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Post by Tony is not to despondent now. on Jun 6, 2009 8:43:40 GMT
We have one striker signed.
Will there be more?
We need some, because or goals for account last season was awful.
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Post by bigsteve on Jun 9, 2009 10:48:11 GMT
if you don't create anything you can't score. Rooney, Tevez and Berbatov would have struggled to score for City last season. Last season our midfield was pitifully devoid of creation.
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Post by StopfordianWCFC on Jun 9, 2009 17:32:23 GMT
Agreed - midfield for a number of seasons (well before RD took over) has been our weakness. If we could address this, then with the defence already looking strong, it should be a more succesful season.
Another term with a lightweight middle of the park would probably lead to further problems and nothing entertaining to watch.
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Post by thegeezerishone on Jun 9, 2009 17:32:31 GMT
agreed
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Post by georgethebassett on Jun 9, 2009 19:10:27 GMT
From The Express & Star:
'Stafford manager Chris Brindley faces up to life without Wayne Daniel confident that he did everything within his power to persaude his skipper to stay.
In the end, all efforts were to no avail - the central defender is now a Worcester City player after rubber-stamping his move at the weekend.
But, even in leaving, the 32-year-old felt he was wanted by the club he spent seven seasons with, the Rangers boss even matching the type of offer on the table by offering Daniel a one-year contract.
In the end, the decision was down to the man himself and the popular captain decided it was time for a change.
Now the focus shifts on who will fill the breach, but the manager has time to pick a target before pre-season training starts next month.
But he knows the longest-serving player at the club will take some replacing.
Brindley said: “I did everything I could to keep Wayne. In the end, he just wanted a change by all accounts - there’s not much I could have done to change his mind.
“It’s a shame and he will take some replacing, a great player and a great servant to the club. We all appreciate what he did for this football club and wish him well in the future.
“But he has made his choice, he has left the club and now I have to look at replacing him.”
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Post by wh on Jun 10, 2009 8:01:56 GMT
Good signing but having the best defence in the league hardly makes for great football. Wcfc are never going to win the league because that wouldn't fit into the financial plans so woudn't it be better to see 3-3 games instead of 0-0's? People want to see goals, at least we still have Wilding  |
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Post by Tony is not to despondent now. on Jun 11, 2009 15:11:02 GMT
People want to see goals, at least we still have Wilding [/quote] Then heaven help the City, if he is a successful a mid-fielder as he was a striker. |
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Post by jupu on Jun 12, 2009 19:54:22 GMT
None of us know if Wayne will be a good signing - we can but hope. In recent times I can think of players such as Martyn Bennett, Martin Hicks, Martin Weir and Paul Carty that all came to us with a successful reputation and did well for City. Strangely all defenders, and obviously being called Martin helps a lot. Don't think we've ever had a player called Keith Scott though.
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Post by hampster on Jun 15, 2009 11:18:37 GMT
Since when did Jem let the truth get in the way of a good rant.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2009 20:21:20 GMT
A horrible amalgamation of Moryss Scott, Ian Scott and Keith Knight!!! sorry but I couldnt figure out which one to use as an example and got the name wrong, big deal. The point is that supporters actually never know who is going to be a "terrific signing" I don't remember anyone ever saying what a "terrific signing" Steve Ferguson was.
They can but hope
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Post by niels on Jun 16, 2009 11:21:42 GMT
I don't remember anyone ever saying what a "terrific signing" Steve Ferguson was. There was no banter board in those days so I presume you talked to the whole ground about the signing of Steve Ferguson? Of course not, so you have no clue whether someone said that it was a terrific signing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2009 16:06:37 GMT
how do you work that out? only 30 people write on this banter board, yet I (even you) could easily talk to 30 people about WCFC signings either at the ground, in the Social Club, in any pub down town, or at the time where I worked in Worcester (my boss was the Chairman of the club at the time, and I had been going out with the Presidents daughter)
Unfortunately niels, this banter board only represents a tiny minority, as opposed to the number of people on worcester who do express a view. I remember when we signed Christian Moore, some people were talking about what a good signing he would be, yet there was no banter board then either. And as I said I don't remember anyone ever saying about Fergie, thats not to say someone in Malvern wasn't telling their friend in Tewkesbury what a terrific signing he was.
No, I well remember George bringing in Fergie, and the only talk was about Mark Whitehouse!! and that wasn't on a banter board either.
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Post by jupu on Jun 16, 2009 17:39:55 GMT
As I said no-one can ever know if a new signing will be "terrific," whether manager, supporter or whoever. It doesn't mean they can't say or think it though.
And we might each define terrific differently – a great individual performer, an asset to the team, a "name" who can put bums on seats even if the move doesn't work out?
Some of those 30 people who post here (and others who don't) may want to be optimistic about next season, and hoping that a new signing will be an asset is a natural and optimistic reaction.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2009 19:30:36 GMT
so the reaction of most to the signing of Craig Wilding was unnatural and pessimistic? Most people obviously hada very unnatural reaction to the signing of Bernie Wright!! especially those who remember taking Mick Tuohy's nose off his face with his elbow!
We do agree that to talk about a signing as a good signing, regardless of their previous successes is somewhat premature though.
I personally have no idea whether Wayne Daniel will be good or not, on paper a good player, but who knows. Does he have the hunger to start effectively all over again? Keith Knight was considered a quality player by Cheltenham, and I know Cheltenham supporters who were surprised and disappointed to see him leave, but what a waste of time, space and money he turned out to be? I think Christian Moore was always going to be a waste of space, and so it turned out. So who knows?
I'm not a believer in the transference of optimism, my optimism for a third parties success, like WCFC will have no bearing whatsoever on their success or lack of.
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Post by georgethebassett on Jun 17, 2009 8:38:32 GMT
I agree with most of the above, we won't know whether he is a good signing until he's played for a season; however, I'm thrilled we've signed 'Shoota' because I know the man, I've watched him over a hundred times and - if he does reproduce, even at 80% what he's given to Stafford - you'll all be more than happy. He certainly has the hunger to start again; it's the challenge that has led him to leave, not money, as I know for a fact that Rangers matched what City offered him, and he's given up the second part of a lucrative testimonial.
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Post by niels on Jun 17, 2009 12:16:18 GMT
I remember when we signed Christian Moore, some people were talking about what a good signing he would be, yet there was no banter board then either. You're wrong. There was a message board run by Tim, I think, and you were one of the moderators. I found it on the Wayback machine but unfortunately it has not saved the text behind the topic "Christian Moore is..........". I've also just re-read this topic where your first posting says "It always makes me laugh when supporters go on about "terrific signings" when a decent players joins your side" underneath four posts which describe the signing as: "I think this is a quality signing. He was always excellent against us and although 32 should have a couple of years left. " "He's a big lad and very experienced. Not the quickest, but with him and Kemp we should have some real muscle at the heart of defence. " "Good signing. Well done Dicky D, I think this guy is the perfect replacement for Jon Richardson and will bring much needed experience. " "Wayne is a legend at Marston Road - one of the best defenders this level of football has seen. He's getting on in years but was still Rangers' MOM more often than any other player last season. A terrific guy too. This is brilliant news. " |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2009 19:19:24 GMT
I remember when we signed Christian Moore, some people were talking about what a good signing he would be, yet there was no banter board then either. I've also just re-read this topic where your first posting says "It always makes me laugh when supporters go on about "terrific signings" when a decent players joins your side" underneath four posts which describe the signing as: "I think this is a quality signing. He was always excellent against us and although 32 should have a couple of years left. " "He's a big lad and very experienced. Not the quickest, but with him and Kemp we should have some real muscle at the heart of defence. " "Good signing. Well done Dicky D, I think this guy is the perfect replacement for Jon Richardson and will bring much needed experience. " "Wayne is a legend at Marston Road - one of the best defenders this level of football has seen. He's getting on in years but was still Rangers' MOM more often than any other player last season. A terrific guy too. This is brilliant news. " Sorry, whats your point? |
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Post by jupu on Jun 17, 2009 20:53:25 GMT
Those who can remember the first three or four years of Nobby Clark's reign as manager will recall that he was hugely successful in generating optimism off the field, which helped to transform what happened on the pitch. That was 30 plus years ago of course, and times change, it may never happen again, but some of us have seen this "transference of optimism."
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Post by niels on Jun 18, 2009 5:16:07 GMT
I've also just re-read this topic where your first posting says "It always makes me laugh when supporters go on about "terrific signings" when a decent players joins your side" underneath four posts which describe the signing as: "I think this is a quality signing. He was always excellent against us and although 32 should have a couple of years left. " "He's a big lad and very experienced. Not the quickest, but with him and Kemp we should have some real muscle at the heart of defence. " "Good signing. Well done Dicky D, I think this guy is the perfect replacement for Jon Richardson and will bring much needed experience. " "Wayne is a legend at Marston Road - one of the best defenders this level of football has seen. He's getting on in years but was still Rangers' MOM more often than any other player last season. A terrific guy too. This is brilliant news. " Sorry, whats your point? My point is that, as per usual, you have twisted something in order to segway nicely into JCP rant number 635. PS. Just to prove that I still love you below is a link to a video of Bruce busking "The River", one of the only of his songs that I like, on the main pedestrian drag of Copenhagen in 1988. The story goes that he was passing an Icelandic busker playing one of his songs, was invited to join in, and did. He played in Parken later that evening in front of 40,000ish, probably for 10 hours. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2009 8:52:23 GMT
Sorry niels , I don't get it, whats twisted? Four comments by supporters in the usual 606 "the boys gonna do good" style, then I say how I always find it funny how supporters go on about "t'riffic signings" You hear it up and down the land from supporters who's only knowledge of players is based on their success at a previous side. Surely it makes more sense to hang fire for a bit, see if the player fits in to the style of play, finds his feet, and makes an impression?
Who knows if it is a quality signing like that of ......Keith Knight?
He could well be a big lad and very experienced and add muscle like....Tony Larkin!
Remember Keith Knight was legend at Cheltenham Town and his signing could have been seen as "brilliant news"
Truth is like most signings, its a bit of a punt and supporters should really wait for evidence of a player being a good signing for their new club before they set them up for a Paul Joinson or Evran Wright style fall.
Nothing twisted there, just a pretty obvious bit of comment. I really am not in a position to form an opinion on how good or bad a signing Wayne Daniel will be, but if he produce the kind of hostile bowling that he did in 1976 against England, then who knows?? Doesnt common sense and past experiences (more latterly Alfreton town Player of the Year Emeke Nwadike) suggest erring on the side of caution, even if only in fairness to the players?
As for watching some youtube video of Springsteen busking in 1988, do you think I'm some kind of sycophant? and anyway, you know my interest in Springsteen is from 1968-1978, the Tinker West - Mike Appel years. The River was (in my opinion so excuse the JCP rant) an overbloated double album which should have either been a single album, or a live album, but was the result of Jon Landau's matching overbloated ego!
Now, this is more like it
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