So February is here.....

[rushwickdon]

.....and still are the directors 'resigning' at the end of January.

Anyone else surprised?

Sort it out, AH

[Deleted]

Who, exactly, are now board members?

[ac]

Anthony Hampson, Jim Panter, Colin Layland, Keith Stokes-Smith, Cliff Slade, David Hallmark, Laurie Brown, Dave Boddy.

[Deleted]

Its disgraceful that Boddy still sits in the boardroom, and shows just how two faced Hampson really is.
Who exactly is this David Hallmark? Whats his real interest? How many games has he been to since his "holier than thou" performance at the AGM? (My dear Mr Ward!!!!) What has his role been regarding the ground move in the last 10 years? Has he mentored and directed the directors? If so, why?
I'll leave it for others to now ask the questions, find the answers, and start following the money trail for themselves.
31st January came and went with a wimper, we've been lied to, over the so-called directors resignations, over the funding for the supposed new ground, over the intentions of the board, in particular the new chairman (who by his own admission was approached by this David Hallmark, even though he wasn't a board director at the time!!, just how can someone with no connection to the club decide upon who should be the club chairman?? Maybe the former chairman could answer that one)
Its been nice knowing you all, 30 long years of interesting non-league football, from Barry Kelcher, Barry Williams, Barry Lowe, right through to Barry Ward. From John King, John Tudor, John Barton, John Jones and any other John up until two seasons ago.
Through the years of Brooksider, controversial, opinionated, but I'd like to think never boring. Good times, bad times, long distances travelled, longer journeys home in silence, fish and chips in Chipping Norton on the way back from defeat at Weymouth in the FA Cup. The pride of seeing Mossy bury those identical goals against Wrexham, then again against Aldershot, Coventry, and who can forget those Doc Martens Cup games against Newport and Crawley, and standing on the terraces at Crawley applauding Barty and his boys, then driving all the way back to my travelodge in Warminster!
Nobby Clark, to me a legend never to be forgotten, to City a manager never to be remembered it seems. It'll be 10 years in May since his death, and I doubt anyone at the club will give a s***, certainly my requests to Mr Boddy for the stand to be named the Nobby Clark Stand were simply ignored with the usual "that's a good idea, we'll think about it!"
The clubs dead, its lost its soul, its lost its meaning, it no longer matters to all but a very few, those who havent grasped the truth and those who prefer to look the other way. The club exists only because the bank can't get its money unless Nunnery Way goes ahead, its living on borrowed time whether Nunnery Way goes ahead, or not.
And quite frankly, I really do no longer care. you've had your chance Hampson, you've blown it, which is unfortunate and quite sad.
Good-bye, good luck. So long.

[jimbo]

So A H is useless is he Jem ?
He's paid for new televisions in the bar.
He's paying for new carpets in there as well.
He's arranged the open monthly meeting as promised.
He turns up to every home game & pays for his entry.
He talks openly to everyone who approaches him at the match.
Give the guy a chance !!

[Deleted]

Hampson may be Mr Amiable - that's probably why he was brought in. It was obvious Boddy had lost the plot. I just wonder what will happen when the move to Nunnery Way comes off the rails. Will Hallmark still have the faintest interest in WCFC? Will Boddy come up with a second idea? I doubt it. The whole thing will collapse in a heap. They should hang their heads in shame.

[jimbo]

Mr Amiable, who put his hand in his pocket immediately & bought 3 grands worth of shares & as I said previously is spending money on our club !!!!
Look to the future ealing, we cannot undo what was done in the past.

[sleepinggiant]

Before Christmas we were told that the club was on the brink of folding. Six weeks later we have given the social club a lick of paint and some new televisions and arranged a Cheese and Wine evening and we are expected to believe that everything is now rosy.

Nothing has changed apart from having a more amiable front man.

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Feb 3, 2009 9:05:26 GMT jimbo said:

So A H is useless is he Jem ?
He's paid for new televisions in the bar.
He's paying for new carpets in there as well.
He's arranged the open monthly meeting as promised.
He turns up to every home game & pays for his entry.
He talks openly to everyone who approaches him at the match.
Give the guy a chance !!

One more time although those like jimbo who still believe in the word of Boddy very much fall into the category of those who havent grasped the truth or prefer to look the other way.

Wow, he bought some tellys and a carpet and pays his entrance fee and lip service to the supporters. Small change for a millionaire. I think the role of Chairman of a company in its present position requires a bit more in terms of leadership than a few tellys and a carpet. Its his representation to shareholders and stakeholders that concerns me, and he's failed in this area.
He had his chance, he told us what he would be doing at the AGM, the important things (not a telly and carpets) such as a proper investigation into the running of the Social Club (and its former director/employee) and the running of the Supergold (and its present director). The investigation into the accounts and the auditors. The financial transparency (so how much has been borrowed and from whom since the AGM?) promised back in November seems to be as blurred as ever. The transparent roles of the directors - what exactly does David Hallmark do? What exactly does Colin Layland do?
Three months into the job and we've got a few tellys and a carpet, when we could have had a complete new refit, including a re-positioned bar, new arrangements with a local brewery, and catering arrangements providing funds solely for the football club! Instead, we have papered over cracks, with a few tellys and a new carpet, all items negotiable through trade contacts free of charge!!!
The plan is still full steam ahead Nunnery Way, and appease the supporters with a lick of paint. This club is no longer my club, its no longer a football club in the eyes of those who manage it. Its a catalyst for a development plan, from which some people will benefit to the tune of millions of pounds, none of which will be given to the football club.
Sorry, but those who understand the issues of the business, aren't won over by a few tellys and a carpet.
Enjoy the ride.

[dragon]

Totally agree with jcp.`The Hampster` is a plant and `the hallmark` of darker forces who still remain very much in charge. As Jem says this is no longer the Club we grew up with and only now exists to make a few people very rich indeed. It`s demise will follow very quickly on from an adverse decision on the planning application.WCFC RIP.

[Deleted]

"Look to the future ealing, we cannot undo what was done in the past."

I am looking at the future - and THAT's what's so frightening. These clowns are bumbling along a single route to Nunnery Way - and oblivion. Even if the move goes through (and I doubt that) we'll end up still in debt, minus our major asset, and with some crappy two-sided, unfinished stadium. And that's the BEST scenario.

[sleepinggiant]

Feb 3, 2009 10:32:46 GMT @ealing said:

"Look to the future ealing, we cannot undo what was done in the past."

I am looking at the future - and THAT's what's so frightening. These clowns are bumbling along a single route to Nunnery Way - and oblivion. Even if the move goes through (and I doubt that) we'll end up still in debt, minus our major asset, and with some crappy two-sided, unfinished stadium. And that's the BEST scenario.

All of which Mr Hampson agreed with at the Trust forum on December 20th. So why are we still going ahead with this Nunnery Way plan if the Chairman doesn't agree with it?

[jimbo]

I can specifically remember A H telling the open meeting that
1). He would investigate the reasons if there are any as to why some directors are hell bent on a move to Nunnery & that he would report any findings to us.
2). In his opinion the only way forward at this time is to stay put at St Georges Lane until such time it was proved that a move would be of benefit to the football club.
Perhaps we should wait until he reports at the scheduled open meeting before condemning the guy.

[Wesley2scoopsBerry]

lip-service , jcp is right there

[jimbo]

We will only know if it's lip service after the meeting

[si1268]

Feb 3, 2009 11:14:23 GMT jimbo said:

We will only know if it's lip service after the meeting

Not another meeting Jimbo, you're naivety is only matched by your appetite for bullshit.

[birdfeeder]

Feb 3, 2009 9:54:16 GMT Down The Pan said:

Feb 3, 2009 9:05:26 GMT jimbo said:

So A H is useless is he Jem ?
He's paid for new televisions in the bar.
He's paying for new carpets in there as well.
He's arranged the open monthly meeting as promised.
He turns up to every home game & pays for his entry.
He talks openly to everyone who approaches him at the match.
Give the guy a chance !!

One more time although those like jimbo who still believe in the word of Boddy very much fall into the category of those who havent grasped the truth or prefer to look the other way.

Wow, he bought some tellys and a carpet and pays his entrance fee and lip service to the supporters. Small change for a millionaire. I think the role of Chairman of a company in its present position requires a bit more in terms of leadership than a few tellys and a carpet. Its his representation to shareholders and stakeholders that concerns me, and he's failed in this area.
He had his chance, he told us what he would be doing at the AGM, the important things (not a telly and carpets) such as a proper investigation into the running of the Social Club (and its former director/employee) and the running of the Supergold (and its present director). The investigation into the accounts and the auditors. The financial transparency (so how much has been borrowed and from whom since the AGM?) promised back in November seems to be as blurred as ever. The transparent roles of the directors - what exactly does David Hallmark do? What exactly does Colin Layland do?
Three months into the job and we've got a few tellys and a carpet, when we could have had a complete new refit, including a re-positioned bar, new arrangements with a local brewery, and catering arrangements providing funds solely for the football club! Instead, we have papered over cracks, with a few tellys and a new carpet, all items negotiable through trade contacts free of charge!!!
The plan is still full steam ahead Nunnery Way, and appease the supporters with a lick of paint. This club is no longer my club, its no longer a football club in the eyes of those who manage it. Its a catalyst for a development plan, from which some people will benefit to the tune of millions of pounds, none of which will be given to the football club.
Sorry, but those who understand the issues of the business, aren't won over by a few tellys and a carpet.
Enjoy the ride.

Colin Layland is not going to tell you,anyway he his waiting for the promised land

[greenman]

And by the promised land I assume you mean Nunnery Way. Then what?

Mr Hallmark in his pre AGM speech told the audience 'we are only a transitional board to see the club to Nunnery Way'. I would assume by this statement they will then walk away leaving a part built stadium and the likelihood of a massive debt secured on it.

No doubt a new tranche of Directors will promptly volunteer to address exactly the same problem as we now have except for an asset worth far less and a secured lender unlikely to be as forgiving as our current bank.

[Deleted]

I think young Colin was being a tad ironic!

Our current bank is only forgiving because it is, itself, bankrupt. It has made a series of toxic loans to WCFC which it now has to either call in, and lose a huge chunk, or gamble that the nonsense of NW comes to fruition so it can grab the loans back. After that it will disappear and credit for WCFC won't be anywhere near as easy to obtain the next time around. And there will be a next time if we go to NW.

[Wesley2scoopsBerry]

do i get this wrong then because we go to Nunnery Way debt free. Whats the problem then

[Deleted]

No, moving to NW won't clear the debt - we'll have a big shortfall. And a ground that's worth about a tenth of SGL.

[wh]

www.worcesternews.co.uk/sport/wcfc/4094954.City_directors_depart_to_mixed_reaction_from_fans/

[Wesley2scoopsBerry]

so they have resigned then and whats the big deal now? Why does everyone say there will be debt at Nunnery Way when we wouldnt move there if it was true and where do these people get there info from?

[rushwickdon]

jimbo- you should put a patent on those blinkers and sell them to racehorse trainers all over the country. You'd make a mint.

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Feb 3, 2009 16:40:04 GMT Wesley2scoopsBerry said:

so they have resigned then and whats the big deal now? Why does everyone say there will be debt at Nunnery Way when we wouldnt move there if it was true and where do these people get there info from?

Before the credit crunch WCFC wouldn't have made enough from the sale of SGL to build the proposed stadium - now the figures must be wider apart than ever. Many people believe that the whole point of building at NW is to set a president along the M5 corridor and cause a huge hike in land prices. Those that own land and represent the owners would make fortunes.

Mr Hallmark appoints the chairman and sits on our board. Many think he actually runs the club. He's also a solicitor representing many people in the area. Join the dots.