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Post by Tony is not to despondent now. on Oct 4, 2008 17:01:24 GMT
What was the use of segregation when the Wimbledon supporters were allowed out of the ground before the home supporters had cleared the ground?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2008 17:36:00 GMT
The same use as having this bunch of directors.
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Post by camper on Oct 4, 2008 21:31:26 GMT
Todays sagregation was my responsibility and to that end I personally together with the Police and County Council who were in attendance at the game inspecting our proceedures felt that what we had in place was a total success. Everyone admitted to the game were safely allowed to experience a good game of high entertainment value. For the record there were 752 Wimbledon fans and just under 1000 city fans, there were no incidents that required outside involvement. Our stewards carried out their duties admirably. I apologise to any WCFC fans who had to endure the inconveniens of walking around the ground to reach the Brookside but I feel it was a small price to pay for the totally safe environment for them to watch such an entertaining game and more importantly a City Win. I personally read this board regularly and I have taken as well as the rest of the board a lot of criticism and abuse with regards to the decision to segregate, I feel that today has vindicated that decision. I would just like to add that I did not see a microlite flying over the ground with a particultar a...hole viewing the segregation.
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Post by camper on Oct 4, 2008 21:33:07 GMT
Todays sagregation was my responsibility and to that end I personally together with the Police and County Council who were in attendance at the game inspecting our proceedures felt that what we had in place was a total success. Everyone admitted to the game were safely allowed to experience a good game of high entertainment value. For the record there were 752 Wimbledon fans and just under 1000 city fans, there were no incidents that required outside involvement. Our stewards carried out their duties admirably. I apologise to any WCFC fans who had to endure the inconveniens of walking around the ground to reach the Brookside but I feel it was a small price to pay for the totally safe environment for them to watch such an entertaining game and more importantly a City Win. I personally read this board regularly and I have taken as well as the rest of the board a lot of criticism and abuse with regards to the decision to segregate, I feel that today has vindicated that decision. I would just like to add that I did not see a microlite flying over the ground with a particultar a...hole viewing the segregation.
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Post by prestonwcfc on Oct 4, 2008 22:11:44 GMT
Credit where credit is due. The segregation worked today. Whether it was needed is another discussion. Thankfully the decision not to admit all the Wimbledon fans at the canal end did not materialise. Overall a good job was done even though it did take me ages to get to stand infront of the brookside kiosk !!  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2008 23:06:01 GMT
"with a particultar a...hole viewing the segregation" If you and your board could communicate with us fans and shareholders and deal with the numerous concerns we have, you might be able to silence not only that particular a...hole - but we other arseholes as well. You should be ashamed of yourself. If all is well at WCFC then answer your critics or get the f**k out. You're a disgrace.
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Post by wh on Oct 5, 2008 6:34:16 GMT
I would just like to add that I did not see a microlite flying over the ground with a particultar a...hole viewing the segregation. That's a disgraceful thing to say Tony, how much lower can you stoop, please pull out your tent pegs and clear off! and take the other free loaders with you. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2008 10:25:53 GMT
I think a great deal of the credit for the way the segregation worked has to go to the Worcester City Supporters Trust. They engaged directly with AFC Wimbledon supporters in the way that football supporters should do, its a sport, its a day out, and from what I've been told about yesterday, it was a good spectacle, and was never going to be anything other than a totally safe environment for football, segregation or not. So well done WCFCST, you showed how this club could and should be run!
As to Mr Partridges other comments - if he considers shareholders of the business of which he is a Director to be arseholes, then there's no surprise there. When he makes that sort of comment then he does so representing the Board of Directors of WCFC. I think that comment does nothing to further the cause of the incompetents in charge (what exactly did Mr Partridge add to the open meeting at the Whitehouse Hotel of any value? What does he add to shareholders meetings of any value?) and simply confirms any waiverers view of his inability to carry out actions in a way becoming of a Director.
If Mr Partridge considers me to be an ****hole personally, then thats no concern to me (maybe a tad amusing), but if he considers that view in a posting representing the Board of Directors its a totally different matter. I have no wish to insult Mr Partridge as a person, I'm sure he's a fine family man, but as a Direcotr of Worcester City Football Club (and I as a shareholder) he is an incompetent, who is incapable of providing any answers to any of the questions posed regarding the future of the club - he is incapable of taking the club forward - not my words, but those of the former President of the company, and other former directors.
Rather unprofessional, and takes a bit of the glitz of what was a superb day yesterday for the club.
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Post by Tony is not to despondent now. on Oct 5, 2008 11:13:25 GMT
The same use as having this bunch of directors. Quite right Ealing. |
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Post by Tony is not to despondent now. on Oct 5, 2008 11:15:34 GMT
Todays sagregation was my responsibility and to that end I personally together with the Police and County Council who were in attendance at the game inspecting our proceedures felt that what we had in place was a total success. Everyone admitted to the game were safely allowed to experience a good game of high entertainment value. For the record there were 752 Wimbledon fans and just under 1000 city fans, there were no incidents that required outside involvement. Our stewards carried out their duties admirably. I apologise to any WCFC fans who had to endure the inconveniens of walking around the ground to reach the Brookside but I feel it was a small price to pay for the totally safe environment for them to watch such an entertaining game and more importantly a City Win. I personally read this board regularly and I have taken as well as the rest of the board a lot of criticism and abuse with regards to the decision to segregate, I feel that today has vindicated that decision. I would just like to add that I did not see a microlite flying over the ground with a particultar a...hole viewing the segregation. Camper you are kidding yourself if think that that is the correct number of Wimbledon fans attending many of them ignored the segregation and stood amongst the City fans. |
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Post by camper on Oct 5, 2008 12:46:50 GMT
Wayne et al you are right and on reflection I unreservedly apologise for that particular remark.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2008 12:48:09 GMT
Good. You've restored some dignity by doing that.
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Post by georgethebassett on Oct 5, 2008 14:38:41 GMT
This message board deals in emotional issues and can be a pretty raw place at times. If I was the director of the football club responsible for the logistical issues surrounding yesterday's match I would be feeling like sticking two fingers up at the collected body of posters who had poured scorn in advance on the arrangements for the Dons' visit. They worked very well indeed. Well done. However,......... and it's a very big however, when your stock is as low as the Board's currently is, you don't react as Mr Partridge did. I know he has apologised, and I'm sure the apology will be accepted, but it's a reaction that beggars belief.
It's obviously too hot for you in this particular kitchen, Mr P.....
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Post by tim on Oct 5, 2008 16:06:46 GMT
Note they changed the plans for the better - rather than having up to 1000 Wimbledon fans coming through the single turnstile at the Canal End, as was originally advertised and was the major concern and reason for scorn, they came through the main turnstiles with the City fans, did they not?
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Post by cg on Oct 5, 2008 16:08:54 GMT
Wayne et al you are right and on reflection I unreservedly apologise for that particular remark. There is a campaign that has recently started in football called RESPECT. It isn't just aimed at players, fans, coaches and parents who abuse referees but general conduct in the game, including fans who racially and/or homophobically abusing players....maybe that should extend to directors? However I would like to think it should also extend to people running football businesses - possibly the likes of Joe Kinnear for swearing 52 times to a handful of journalists - but DEFINITELY to directors who swear at their supporters and customers. Mr Partridge - I'm sorry but I am sure many people will share my view that a meally-mouthed apology is not good enough - in the name of RESPECT you should resign. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2008 17:16:09 GMT
This message board deals in emotional issues and can be a pretty raw place at times. If I was the director of the football club responsible for the logistical issues surrounding yesterday's match I would be feeling like sticking two fingers up at the collected body of posters who had poured scorn in advance on the arrangements for the Dons' visit. They worked very well indeed. Well done. However,......... and it's a very big however, when your stock is as low as the Board's currently is, you don't react as Mr Partridge did. I know he has apologised, and I'm sure the apology will be accepted, but it's a reaction that beggars belief. It's obviously too hot for you in this particular kitchen, Mr P..... Has he apologised? news to me!! Maybe he would like to thank the supporters of WCFC like TJ for pointing out the folly of the original plan, and changing it accordingly. City supporters should give themselves a collective pat on the back for pointing out the issues of getting away supporters in at one end and walking them round to the other. and also Wimbledon supporters should give themselves a pat on the back for going and enjoying a football match - its what its all about isn't it?? |
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 5, 2008 20:33:04 GMT
I personally read this board regularly and I have taken as well as the rest of the board a lot of criticism and abuse with regards to the decision to segregate, I feel that today has vindicated that decision. I would just like to add that I did not see a microlite flying over the ground with a particultar a...hole viewing the segregation. Much as we mainly disagree with the current 'Board', there is part of those sentiments, that some of the WCFC constituency would agree with! And it's not because they're "pro-'Board' "! |
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Post by jupu on Oct 5, 2008 21:12:15 GMT
Tony’s remark was not appropriate and I’m pleased he has apologised, but I’m sure that to a large extent it was borne of frustration aimed at those who posted on here deriding the club regarding the segregation arrangements for this game.
Maybe it’s been overlooked that Wimbledon ask away clubs to segregate. No-one can deny that the arrangements put in place appeared to be a total success and for once maybe the club and those involved with crowd control on the day deserve some credit.
Tim – I don’t think it was ever intended to let 1,000 AFCW fans in through the Cavalier turnstile. I don’t think the original press release made it clear and was consequently mis-interpreted by some of the MB regulars. I asked Dave Boddy about this and I clarified in the Tamworth programme that standing AFCW fans would be coming in via the turnstiles at the main entrance.
Jem – I can understand you being miffed at Tony’s comment but I fail to see how yesterday’s segregation arrangements could have succeeded largely through the actions of WCFCST.
And Chris – fine to talk about the RESPECT campaign, and I’m sure many who post here will say come of their comments in this and other threads are borne of frustration too, but those who were quick to criticise Tony should look at some of their own posts over recent weeks.
I felt the “Biography Book Title” thread in particular was unacceptable – nothing to do with WCFC, just a way of letting people take cheap shots at Dave Boddy. I’m surprised our moderators have let it stay.
I’m glad that some have acknowledged a job well done, I believe in giving credit where credit is due.
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Post by voiceofreason on Oct 5, 2008 22:02:07 GMT
Finally a reasoned summary by JP, well said.
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Post by tim on Oct 5, 2008 22:45:45 GMT
That was the original press release detailing the segregation arrangements. How else are we supposed to interpret "AFC Wimbledon... will use the Cavalier entrance to the stadium." ?
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Post by Tony is not to despondent now. on Oct 6, 2008 7:47:26 GMT
Partridges incredible rudeness in his post has done him untold damage. His apology does not in any way excuse his terrible use of a profanity to a loyal fan. If it was an apology!!!!
He should resign at once.
His plan only worked because of the fans good sense. He had not marked out a clear walk way in front of the stand and it was particularly difficult for people with walking difficulties. And in places there was hardly enough room for persons to pass through the spectators in front of the stand.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2008 7:54:13 GMT
Jem – I can understand you being miffed at Tony’s comment but I fail to see how yesterday’s segregation arrangements could have succeeded largely through the actions of WCFCST. Well a) I'm hardly miffed by the comment, as I said, if personal just mildly amused, if professional, just another example of why he is unfit to take this club forward, and b) You will fail to see as you don't know what's gone on in the background, not everyone likes to shout about what they are doing. Yet again, full credit to WCFCST. And I think the press statement said it all, I'm not sure there's any room for ambiguity in there at all, so credit is due to supporters like TJ who pointed out the flaws in the plan, which thankfully the directors picked up on. Still no response though from Mr Partridge regarding the important questions, I'll write to him directly instead. |
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Post by cg on Oct 6, 2008 8:18:09 GMT
Jem – I can understand you being miffed at Tony’s comment but I fail to see how yesterday’s segregation arrangements could have succeeded largely through the actions of WCFCST. And Chris – fine to talk about the RESPECT campaign, and I’m sure many who post here will say come of their comments in this and other threads are borne of frustration too, but those who were quick to criticise Tony should look at some of their own posts over recent weeks. I felt the “Biography Book Title” thread in particular was unacceptable – nothing to do with WCFC, just a way of letting people take cheap shots at Dave Boddy. I’m surprised our moderators have let it stay. I’m glad that some have acknowledged a job well done, I believe in giving credit where credit is due. Jupu, It is a matter of fact that many WCFC supporters (Trust folks or not, but certainly contributors to this website) contacted supporters and directors at AFC Wimbledon to warn them of the potential chaos if WCFC proceeded with segregation plans as outlined in the wording of their press release (outlined above). Same goes with where to drink and car parking. I contacted at least three different people on these issues as late as the morning of the match. No one is expecting a pat on the back but when the club cannot issue adequate instructions via a press release there is bound to be speculation that it might not work. As for RESPECT, sorry, I think when you become either a well paid football manager or a director of a non league football club you have to treat the people you deal with (in Kinnear's case journalists, in 'Camper' case his customers), with respect. With the scent of something that has finally gone right in his nostrils was there really a need for "Camper" to come on this MB to swear at people? I am not defending some of the contributions on here - I too found the book Biography Book Title and Meglomaniac threads unfortunate and inappropriate - however if the chairman hadn't meddled in the very idea (oh, yes) he wouldn't be getting this stick and if the board of directors, including Camper, hadn't run the club in such an appalling way in recent seasons there wouldn't be any of this criticism. Maybe 'Camper' would like to be equally bullish in answering the many more pressing questions that face the future of WCFC on this messageboard? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2008 8:34:19 GMT
The problem with the Chairman is that he has set himself up (or has been set up by others) to become a figure of fun.
The website will be back in 24 hours
An AGM will be called in September
A Business Plan will be presented to shareholders in June
The planning application will go to planners in July
The AGM (when it is announced) will need to be mediated by a third party because it is complex
The ground will be built in 2009
The ground will be built in 2010
The ground will be a £6 million ground
We have £6 million to build the ground and will break even
There will be no debt
There will be no money in the bank
We have £5 million to build the ground (and will still break even?)
We have £4 million to build the ground
We have £3.5 million to build the ground
The truth about the debt is £800,000
He is either being done up like a kipper and hung out to dry by A N Other, or he is prepared to be the figure of ridicule.
Its a role I've taken myself (which kind of positively deflects the real work of hard working individuals in rescuing the club, whilst Mr Partridge takes a pop at me, he's totally missing the big picture, his eye is well and truly of the ball) and if anyone wishes to write my biography, I'll be happy for title suggestions. Maybe I'll start the ball rolling, "Brooksider - My Life as an ****hole!"
All I need now is a ghost writer!!
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Post by DazaB on Oct 6, 2008 11:57:44 GMT
Oh this one's easy - "J. Pitt - The final say"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2008 12:16:50 GMT
I'm damned if I do, and damned if I don't on that one!
and why can't I use the word a**e?
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Post by suv on Oct 6, 2008 12:41:09 GMT
"you gotta problem with me" (note, no question mark) by J.Pitt
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Post by DazaB on Oct 6, 2008 12:58:09 GMT
I'm damned if I do, and damned if I don't on that one! and why can't I use the word a**e? I don't know! Delia Pitt: How to boil a temper |
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Post by prestonwcfc on Oct 6, 2008 13:20:49 GMT
'I Miss Barney' by J Pitt |
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Post by DazaB on Oct 6, 2008 15:19:28 GMT
J.Pitt.
When Saturday comes...
I'll be playing with my car
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