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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2008 12:58:39 GMT
Plans have been announced for segregation for the Tamworth and Wimbledon games, but surely what is written in the Worcester News must be wrong.
How can this work for the Wimbledon game?
AFC Wimbledon have been given Block D of the main stand and will use the Cavalier entrance to the stadium. The remainder of their fans will be accommodated on the St George’s Lane Terrace at the dressing room end of the ground.
Blocks A, B and C of the main stand, and the area in front of the main stand, will be used as normal by Worcester fans who will gain entrance in the normal way. The Canal Terrace and the whole of the Brookside will be used by home supporters.
So home supporters come in through the main entrance, walk through the Wimbledon fans and round the ground to the Canal End, whilst Wimbledon fans come in through the Canal End turnstiles, and walk in front of the main stand to the dressing room end, where they mingle with City fans coming through the main entrance!!!!
That must be wrong, surely!
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Post by birdfeeder on Sept 22, 2008 13:23:52 GMT
Remember its the W/N
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Post by cg on Sept 22, 2008 13:26:42 GMT
That must be wrong, surely! Does sound wrong....Must check the website...
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Post by birdfeeder on Sept 22, 2008 13:42:21 GMT
I take it back after reading it twice,its got to be the chairmans idea and remember he knows best.
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Post by tim on Sept 22, 2008 14:07:29 GMT
At least they haven't been given 3/4 of the ground, unlike the Yeovil FA Cup game a few years ago when we were penned in behind the SGW goal and they got the rest of the terraces, and brought a princely number of 249 fans.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2008 14:28:55 GMT
that would have been funny if it hadn't been so claustrophobic!!
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Post by georgethebassett on Sept 22, 2008 15:27:19 GMT
I think I'll be bringing an ordnance survey map to find my way to the Brookside - the entry instructions, as printed in the WN, are about as clear as.........(any recent statement from the Chairman!)
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Post by sh4un on Sept 22, 2008 15:43:24 GMT
This is one of Boddys ' good ideas'
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2008 16:14:28 GMT
Health and Safety and Ground segregation surely comes under Mr Partridge.
I'm convinced this info must be wrong, or else he's a bit stupid. Is the plan that everyone enters the ground and then walks a complete circle in an anti-clockwise direction to get to where they want to stand??
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Post by prestonwcfc on Sept 22, 2008 17:48:02 GMT
So is the anti social club for use by Home or Away fans then ??
Could be interesting if 1000 Wimbledon fans decide they want a PINT. I'll buy a ticket for that one !!!
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Post by b7uemoon on Sept 22, 2008 18:42:20 GMT
A more simple idea regarding the segregation, To give wimbledon the canal end as per usual, and give them the shed as extra ? With some kind of temporary segregation from the brookside terrace.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2008 18:59:22 GMT
Its just too obvious isn't it! Or if they are genuinely likely to bring 1000 plus to Worcester, give them the shed, and have a neutral zone half way along the rest of the Brookside down near the refreshment kiosk, so Home fans have the Underwoods Terrace, the main stand terrace, and around the corner of the Brookside.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2008 19:30:18 GMT
"....or else he's a bit stupid." Surely not? How could anyone be a bit stupid and earn £16k?
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Post by tim on Sept 22, 2008 19:34:15 GMT
Maybe they just don't want any City fans there at all, so are giving the ground to the opposition. Why bother playing the game? Why not just give them the three points as well?
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Post by tim on Sept 22, 2008 19:52:46 GMT
Segregation is to try and ensure there are no crowd control problems, right? To ensure that there are no incidents between over-zealous rival fans and to enable smooth transition to and from the ground? Right.
Would someone therefore kindly explain how this one is going to work against Wimbledon? Wimbledon fans who want to sit down will go to Block D of the main stand, almost behind the Cavalier Tavern. Wimbledon fans who want to stand on the terrace will have to walk behind/through the City fans who are behind the Canal End goal and along the Brookside terrace, and will congregate on the St George's Walk terrace. If they bring 1000 fans as they tend to do everywhere, that is going to be one congested terrace for the City fans to walk through on their way round to their segregated area, namely the Brookside and Canal End.
Flashpoint potential - in the region of 1600 fans crossing paths at and by the narrow part by the floodlight in the corner in front of the old club shop and sludge bar. The terrace simply isn't wide enough for everyone to get through without problems. This could potentially arise before the game, as Wimbledon fans walk down the Brookside to their allocated end, and City fans walk through the already narrow terrace towards the Brookside. It will also happen again at the end of the game in reverse, with the additional spice that there could be one unhappy set of supporters...... and when you think that there will also be equal numbers of supporters making the same trip at the start and end around the corner of the Shed/Canal End, it can only get worse.
Whoever thought of this needs looking at. I sincerely hope it wasn't the "brainchild" of the Club's Health and Safety Officer/Director, as it is an extremely risky policy. Could someone explain to me why a temporary segregation fence/stewards line cannot be set up at the end of the Shed, giving Wimbledon the Canal End and the Shed? No need at all for the rival fans to cross paths at the narrowest parts of the ground then, is there? Wimbledon fans would still have their own entrance/exit, and wouldn't need to be forced through a bottleneck at each end of the ground.
Is this too logical for the buffoons that "run" this club? Almost certainly!
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Post by prestonwcfc on Sept 22, 2008 20:15:49 GMT
Another alternative would be to allow only City fans two use the Cavilier enterance and the four turnstiles to the right of the main enterance. Then allow Wimbledon fans the use of the left hand turnstiles, then arrange segregation between the gates and the HKL enterance. This way if a city fan wantes to use the brookside they can and no fans other than Wimbledon ones in block D need to mingle !!!
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Post by tim on Sept 22, 2008 21:26:01 GMT
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Post by prestonwcfc on Sept 22, 2008 22:04:27 GMT
TJ - nothing there have you linked them to the Official site ?
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Post by tim on Sept 22, 2008 22:08:39 GMT
They are in my yahoo briefcase, the links should be opening ok as permissions have been set to free view. Basically just two aerial photos with the different areas marked off and the overlap routes. This message board only allows images that are on the web, and as I don't have a site at the moment I can't host them any other way, can I?
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Post by prestonwcfc on Sept 22, 2008 22:14:38 GMT
Nope not getting anything, suspect I know what you are getting at though
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Post by ac on Sept 22, 2008 22:16:19 GMT
facebook?..should be able to link directly to the photo once it's on there?
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Post by tim on Sept 22, 2008 22:25:29 GMT
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Post by prestonwcfc on Sept 22, 2008 22:37:31 GMT
Got it and whats more you have a new friend request !!!! I was also thinking are there still any turnstiles at the other side of the canal end ??
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Post by tim on Sept 22, 2008 22:46:00 GMT
None at all, just a load of nettles and graffiti. Just added you.
This whole segregation announcement is a potential disaster, bottlenecks at the Cavalier turnstile, the gate at the end of the Canal Terrace, the corner of the SGW terrace, the width of both end terraces for fan thoroughfare. It could even get the club in hot water, and can in no way do anyone any favours. Just more brainless incompetence, what else do we expect though?
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Post by DazaB on Sept 22, 2008 22:46:37 GMT
Health and Safety and Ground segregation surely comes under Mr Partridge. I'm convinced this info must be wrong, or else he's a bit stupid. Is the plan that everyone enters the ground and then walks a complete circle in an anti-clockwise direction to get to where they want to stand?? No. The plan is that everyone enters the ground and then walks a complete circle in an anti-clockwise direction to get to where they are told to stand??
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2008 7:29:34 GMT
Thansk for the clarification there Daza, for a minute there I trhought it was a bad idea, now I realise its the work of a genius!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2008 8:03:02 GMT
I heard a rumour that Partridge, as health and safety supremo, has a plan B. It's that Wimbledon and WCFC play on different grounds at the same time. That way rival fans never come into contact with each other.
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Post by Tony is not to despondent now. on Sept 23, 2008 11:31:42 GMT
More crazy thinking by the present board. How are they going to stop people mixing on the dressing room end, if we are all to go through the normal turnstiles. And why segration for the AFC Wimbledon match, there supporters do not have a record of misbehaviour.
Is there going to be a clear corridor along the front of the stand?
Or do they think that the loonies will come their of their holes for that match?
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Post by rushwickdon on Sept 23, 2008 17:26:50 GMT
We always request segregation at away matches due to a few problems at games in the past (the county of Kent springs to mind). Whether or not the advice is acted on is down to local police and the club concerned.
Have to say that the plans as announced do sound a littlle ill conceived, though.
AFCW fans are, on the whole, pretty amiable- unless moronic chants regarding a small town in Buckinghamshire begin
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Post by SP on Sept 23, 2008 17:57:30 GMT
From the Worcester News
CHAIRMAN Dave Boddy has defended Worcester City’s segregation policy for the Blue Square South home match against AFC Wimbledon on Saturday week.
Fans have criticised the club’s decision to accommodate visiting supporters at the dressing room end of St George’s Lane and ‘D’ block of the main stand.
Normally, City place away fans on the Canal Terrace and in ‘D’ block when segregating and will operate that policy for the Tamworth FA Cup clash this Saturday.
However, the number of AFC Wimbledon followers anticipated on Saturday, October 4, has meant the club has had to make adjustments.
Boddy said: “Wimbledon are expecting to bring 1,000 people and the segregated area only holds 650. That’s the reason behind it.”
That 'explanation' means it all makes sense now!
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