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Post by DazaB on Jul 12, 2008 11:31:01 GMT
I ain't getting out of bed for no Pre season friendly.
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Post by DazaB on Jul 12, 2008 11:38:09 GMT
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Post by Croc on Jul 12, 2008 11:38:53 GMT
you around this afternoon at all?
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Post by DazaB on Jul 12, 2008 12:45:35 GMT
Might be about later - I'll be at the Marrsie tonight though  |
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Post by dorothy on Jul 12, 2008 13:10:14 GMT
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Post by snowy1914 on Jul 12, 2008 16:49:12 GMT
Although we lost 2-0 I thought we played really well. it was only towards the end when fitness levels took over did Cheltenham start to create chances. The two new centre halves look good and we seemed to play as a team. I was also impressed by Anthony Robinson.
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Post by nickb303 on Jul 12, 2008 17:38:15 GMT
Played well in the first half creating several chances which Craig did not take - 4-3-3 formation. Bampton looked strong whilst Jamie Price looked the best player on show.
Defensively Richardson looked OK and Wardy was excellent.
Wholesale changes at half time (whilst the visitors only brought on one sub) meant we created less chances. Edwards looked a little on the slow side as we missed the presence of Robinson and Wilding up front. The centre half from Stafford looked muscular but probably suffered from not playing with Richardson.
Cheltenham's two goals came against a side including Richard Dryden and the King.
The new winger was not involved today.
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Post by nickb303 on Jul 12, 2008 17:46:10 GMT
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Post by wakefield on Jul 13, 2008 21:08:22 GMT
So why have a pre-season 'friendly' where the Manager and the Coach play??
I really despair at the antiquity of our so called pre-season training. What is positive about 'wholesale changes' at half time?? even though the opposing team put 1 sub on....
Every season seems to have the same choreography, 'it was only the pre-seasons.'...'Christmas is our bid for play offs'....'Easter will see us safe/playoffs'....'Hail the New Manager/Board'...........
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Post by tim on Jul 13, 2008 21:32:51 GMT
Quite simply, so the management could have a look at several trialists. Dryden and Heeley came on towards the end so that some of those who had played the previous 75 mins could have a rest. It's early stages, they are still developing the match fitness. It was a good workout against a full-time side.
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Post by wakefield on Jul 13, 2008 23:07:40 GMT
Yawn.. yes TJ. quite, Simply.
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Post by snowy1914 on Jul 14, 2008 7:47:50 GMT
So why have a pre-season 'friendly' where the Manager and the Coach play??
I really despair at the antiquity of our so called pre-season training. What is positive about 'wholesale changes' at half time?? even though the opposing team put 1 sub on....
Every season seems to have the same choreography, 'it was only the pre-seasons.'...'Christmas is our bid for play offs'....'Easter will see us safe/playoffs'....'Hail the New Manager/Board'...........
What a ridiculous statement Wakefield, RD and CH only came on towards the end when two players were struggling, what is the point of risking players picking up injuries at this time of year. This was the first match, no team plays players for the whole match in its first friendly. As for Cheltenham they had two matches that day so they split the squad, also this was not their first friendly but it was the first when they had played the whole match. The management are also looking to see as much of the trailists as possible.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2008 8:42:38 GMT
Pre Season Friendlies are necessary for the management, but are incorrectly named, and incorrectly sold.
They're nothing more than workouts in a slightly more match type situation. It gives the management a chance to see how people perform against ugly centrebacks, or how they distribute under pressure. It also gives them a chance to check fitness and check how well their engines are running.
To sell these as games is wrong. Which is why you won't see me at one of these training sessions.
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Post by DazaB on Jul 14, 2008 11:00:32 GMT
I agree with Brooksider.
I hate pre season 'games'
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Post by gobby cow on Jul 14, 2008 11:36:04 GMT
It is a proper game of football, you make it sound like they are just doing training exercises. I have enjoyed everyone I have been too, and thankfully they are cheap this year so Mr T doesnt moan about the cost!!!
We will probably go to all of them except the Stourport away one.
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Post by niels on Jul 14, 2008 11:58:48 GMT
I was pretty impressed with what I saw. First half defense were very solid. Richardson was the least impressive but he will be invaluable as the daddy of a young team. We created half a dozen good chances and I hope it was lack of sharpness that prevented us putting a few away and not lack of scoring ability. Of the new boys I was most impressed with Bampton, he broke up much opposition play, was ferocious in the tackle and distributed neatly, giving Price the freedom to create. Second half side was a bit more of a mish-mash but they held Cheltenham and created some half decent chances until the old boys came on and we went all over the place.
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Post by Mark on Jul 14, 2008 12:21:45 GMT
What was the attendance for this game? Did the strategy of reducing the entry price in order to attract more people work or did the early k.o. time put people off?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2008 12:26:06 GMT
It is a proper game of football, you make it sound like they are just doing training exercises. I have enjoyed everyone I have been too, and thankfully they are cheap this year so Mr T doesnt moan about the cost!!! We will probably go to all of them except the Stourport away one. Its not a proper game, no established player is going to bust a gut or break a limb in a friendly by going in to a 40/60 and coming out badly. Also there's no limit on subs, so you can have roll on/roll off of players unlike a true game. And also there's nothing to play for in terms of points, so if you lose you don't feel the pain. If you qwin and personally have a mare, and you're a trialist, it'll hurt a lot more than if you lose but have a blinder!! I think I say this every year, but pre-season games forms part of pre-season training, it is an exercise, its a training session in an almost live situation, a bit like an army exercise with live ammo isn't actually a war. If you're on the losing side, you're hardly dead! Of course, they do serve a purpose in terms of allowing spectators to get to know what players look like, but if you don't really care what the players look like, that doesn't matter too much. Did Barry Williams play in pre-season friendlies??? |
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Post by gobby cow on Jul 14, 2008 13:20:06 GMT
325 watched, there were some Cheltenham fans there.
I think the score flattered Town as City clearly bossed the first half, our goalie, who was impressive, had very little to do first half.
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Post by gobby cow on Jul 14, 2008 13:21:31 GMT
Their first goal was a beauty mind. I missed the second one as I was busy gossiping!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2008 13:31:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2008 13:36:10 GMT
"you havent got time to gossip during a real game.." Er, excuse me young Brooksider? I seem to recall we met up at a game prior to a ST meeting - and I didn't remember anything of the game! But I suppose we weren't gossiping, just discussing important matters?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2008 15:22:43 GMT
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Post by ctod1959 on Jul 14, 2008 18:24:21 GMT
'Its not a proper game, no established player is going to bust a gut or break a limb in a friendly by going in to a 40/60 and coming out badly.'
Try telling that to Adam Webster!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2008 19:15:12 GMT
As I said, no established player in going to bust a gut or break a limb by going into a 40/60 and coming out badly. Adam Webster wouldn't bust a gut or break a limb by going into a 40/60 in a friendly! What do you mean?
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Post by ctod1959 on Jul 14, 2008 19:30:47 GMT
Didn't Webby break his ankle in a 'friendly' as the result of an 'unfriendly' challenge?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2008 20:01:14 GMT
Did Adam Webster risk injury going into a 40/60 challenge? Injuries can occur in friendlies, and in training, but what I'm saying is that you're not going to risk injury going into a challenge you can't win in a friendly . A manager isn't going to mind players not commiting 100% in friendlies, whereas they'd rip you a new ****hole if you bottled a similar challenge in a competitive game. There's a big difference.
Another difference is probably the penalty handed out for abandoning a game, and for twatting an opposing player in the cxhanging rooms too!!
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Post by gobby cow on Jul 14, 2008 21:09:46 GMT
See, its not a real game!!! you havent got time to gossip during a real game, to busy hurling abuse There was noone to hurl abuse at, the officials were excellent, besides we were discussing the egm meeting and what was I doing in the ground when they had heard I was banned! |
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