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Post by The Verner on Nov 12, 2007 23:32:30 GMT
To all Nuneaton fans who attended the Shield game tonight 12th November 2007, i think i can say on behalf of the Football Club and all the Stewards how sorry we are at the behavior of a small part of the Worcester City fans, who took it upon themselves to cause you nothing but trouble. We believe that the small group only took advantage of getting in for free to cause trouble. All i can say is we are very very sorry.
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Post by colinlayland on Nov 13, 2007 9:38:53 GMT
Did the problem start after the game had finished, because bar the usual banter I did not see any trouble? However, I was stood next to three mature Nuneaton fans in the first half, one was a steward, and they were complaining about a small group of their own supporters who they said caused trouble at all their away games. I fear it may not be a good idea to grant free admittance to unaccompanied under 16 year olds. It is good to encourage youngsters to attend, but sadly not all of them behave when left to their own devices.
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Post by villager on Nov 13, 2007 19:33:26 GMT
I was somewhat confused.
In the first half (with City kicking uphill) ... the City fans were in the shed chanting.
About 4-5 Nuneaton fans came and stood in the shed and did the same. They were then told to move back behind the bottom goal.
In the 2nd half ... about 7-8 City fans did the same thing and - it appeared to me - that the Stewards moved the Nuneaton fans to the back of the goal. A few minutes later they moved the City supporters as well ... and allowed the Nuneaton fans to return.
Seemed a pointless activity to me.
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Post by The Verner on Nov 13, 2007 21:34:05 GMT
It was not a pointless activity. The Kids who were in the shed were only there last night to cause trouble. They threatened the Nuneaton fans in 1st half which is the whole reason i asked them to move back behind the goal.
When they asked in second half if they could go back in the shed we said yes, due to the fact it was now empty. After 2-3 minutes a group of City fans were making their way around to the Shed. And some of the things they were saying were worrying for kids that age.
We then removed the trouble makers and the nuneaton fans were then able to enjoy the game that they paid to see. Unfortunately all the trouble makers that were removed then started trouble outside.
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Nov 13, 2007 23:20:37 GMT
Not knocking the stewards who do their best but haven't we all been here before ? i can remember the old not so glorious days where there used to be real trouble e.g stabbings at Cheltenham ! Home match days used to be covered by two policemen and a couple of " Specials " . Employ proper police on matchdays rather than doing it on the cheap ? A flourescent jacket and a Xmas cracker walkie talkie sadly doesn't carry much clout.
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Post by allnighters on Nov 14, 2007 8:45:17 GMT
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Post by colinlayland on Nov 14, 2007 8:56:27 GMT
I am sorry that you think that the Stewards do not carry much clout ? but let me remind you that the stewards first priority is the safety of the spectators, We are not a top premiership club or a championship club neither 1st 2nd or Conference club If violence breaks out then the police are called, but it cost the club a lot of money when the police are brought into the ground, If you want police to be at every big troublesome game then perhaps the admission prices should drastically go up to pay for policing!! The fact of the matter is that up wards of 30 youths were out-side the ground waiting for the Nuneaton fans, & the so called fluorescent clad stewards carrying Xmas crackers walkie talkie called the police because the youths then went on a destructive rampage outside the ground & yes the Stewards were there in the thick of it trying to stop these t**ts from doing more damage than what they had already caused. The abuse that the steward receive from some of our own fans at most home games is quite appalling and that most away fans are better behaved. I would like to thank the Nuneaton fans for showing much restraint, yes they did have 4 supporters trying to sing in the shed but they were moved on in the first half for their own safety. I also believe that quite a few cars were damaged at the end of the game.Lets hope & pray that free admission to under 16 will never happen again & go back to free admission with a full paying adult.Remember that without Stewards the games would never take place.  WELL SAID,TOTALLY AGREE. |
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Post by The Verner on Nov 14, 2007 9:23:44 GMT
Thank God!! its nice to hear some support for us stewards.
We are understaffed as it is due to the fact the club are cutting down on wages. How the hell are the Club supposed to afford to pay the police every game.
I stood with those 5 Nuneaton Fans all through the game and they did not once behave like the City Fans (If that's what you call them). Yes they wanted to sing but doesn't mean that trouble should keep kicking off because of it.
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Nov 14, 2007 18:48:37 GMT
I find it odd that in a round about way, everyone is agreeing that it is policing on the cheap ! Both " Allnighters " and " Preecey " mention the cost of the police as a factor in using stewards ! Point proved I reckon. I realise that the stewards have a difficult job on occasions and I wouldn't do it myself, but there is no proper substitute for the real thing I'm afraid.
" How are the club supposed to pay the police every game ? " asks Preecey.
How about getting rid of " the best left back in the League " and using his wages. If it's a choice of having an overpaid non playing benchwarmer, or having the police at every game, I know which one I'd choose. Besides it's not as if we're short of left backs is it ?
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Post by andy on Nov 14, 2007 18:51:56 GMT
Count me out of supporting Worcester City if we lose players in order to pay for police to keep in check a bunch of kids intent on causing criminal damage. Well, worse than intent.
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Nov 14, 2007 18:58:24 GMT
Andy- I'd like to see the biggest playing budget in the League, but the Board decides what it spends it's money on whether it's the ground, machinery, admin, security and stewarding, and players are just another cost in running a football club. The Board choose how they play the difficult balancing act.
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Post by The Verner on Nov 14, 2007 19:05:32 GMT
Its also up2 the board if we call the police and if games are segregated. surely its up 2us stewards 2 decide when police need to be called and if games need to be segregated.
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Post by tim on Nov 14, 2007 19:50:31 GMT
No, stewards should not decide when games should be segregated, or when police need to be involved. This has to be a decision for the club, and is always made in advance and given very careful consideration. Around five working days notice is required for a police presence at a game. Anyway, there is a world of difference between stewarding at WCFC and football security, you'd s*** yerself if a firm turned up and it kicked off, half a dozen gobby kids isn't crowd trouble.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2007 20:17:58 GMT
Count me out of supporting Worcester City if we lose players in order to pay for police to keep in check a bunch of kids intent on causing criminal damage. Well, worse than intent. And that is my greatest fear if we go into the Conference, as we would then need to segregate, which brings with it all the behavioural problems associated with the worst parts of football. |
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Post by andy on Nov 14, 2007 21:06:13 GMT
Except that segregation may have eliminated Monday night's problem.
Preecey will correct me if I'm wrong, but the problem seemed to be shifted outside the ground when the kids were ejected before the final whistle.
Segregation (although seemingly ridiculous for 30 travelling fans in non-league football) would have allowed for a more managed and safe exit by all after the game.
But the biggest problem seemed to be the kids damaging property of Club officials (six cars?) while the game was going on. Probably a good thing it didnt go to extra-time - another 30 minutes of damage opportunity?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2007 22:29:33 GMT
Segregation would have led to that idiotic situation of people each side of a fence thinking they are hard. They'd probably still have been ejected, and what happens outside the ground is outside of the clubs control.
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Post by andy on Nov 14, 2007 23:39:05 GMT
Maybe. But QED.
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Post by The Verner on Nov 14, 2007 23:40:20 GMT
When i said bout it should be up2 the stewards to call the police, i meant thats during the game not prior to it. Its a fact that SGL is one of the safest grounds in the league. Redditch is a joke one steward in the whole ground. Something needs to be done about segregation.
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Post by allnighters on Nov 15, 2007 2:21:57 GMT
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Post by tim on Nov 15, 2007 7:17:53 GMT
When i said bout it should be up2 the stewards to call the police, i meant thats during the game not prior to it. Its a fact that SGL is one of the safest grounds in the league. Redditch is a joke one steward in the whole ground. Something needs to be done about segregation. Ah, I see. It might have been easier to understand you if you wrote English rather than txt spk. |
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Post by gobby cow on Nov 15, 2007 9:38:21 GMT
It is a sad day when one of the stewards has to apologise for the behaviour of a certain element of the crowd. I wont call them fans as they werent watching the match. Are these delinquents going to be let in again??
I thought the stewards did a good job on monday, they were quick to sort the situation. My only complaint was the Nuneaton 4 were not admonished for their NicK Colley chanting.
Just imagine what it must be like having to teach those little brats!
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Post by villager on Nov 15, 2007 9:58:14 GMT
It was not a pointless activity. The Kids who were in the shed were only there last night to cause trouble. They threatened the Nuneaton fans in 1st half which is the whole reason i asked them to move back behind the goal. Surely they should have been kicked-out straight away then, especially if the threatened the Nuneaton fans. I think you guys do a great job and shouldn't tolerate these idiots (giving then a 2nd chance). |
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Post by DazaB on Nov 15, 2007 11:17:59 GMT
I thought the stewards did a good job on monday, they were quick to sort the situation. My only complaint was the Nuneaton 4 were not admonished for their NicK Colley chanting. And their "mazey is a c**t" chant in the first half wasn't exactly polite. |
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Post by Croc on Nov 15, 2007 11:25:56 GMT
Factually correct n'est pas?  |
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Post by The Verner on Nov 15, 2007 11:32:06 GMT
Thanks Gobby Cow and Villager for your support, nice to know that some people support us in what we do. As said Monday nights game will be segregated as a result of Monday night. And the kids will not be there
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Post by gobby cow on Nov 15, 2007 11:33:58 GMT
I thought the stewards did a good job on monday, they were quick to sort the situation. My only complaint was the Nuneaton 4 were not admonished for their NicK Colley chanting. And their "mazey is a c**t" chant in the first half wasn't exactly polite. I never heard that. Are you joking Darrell or did they really chant that? If I was their mother I would give them a good cuff round the head! |
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Post by gobby cow on Nov 15, 2007 11:37:27 GMT
It is a shame it is going to be segregated as I have always found the Nuneaton supporters a very friendly bunch.
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Post by DazaB on Nov 15, 2007 11:58:46 GMT
And their "mazey is a c**t" chant in the first half wasn't exactly polite. I never heard that. Are you joking Darrell or did they really chant that? If I was their mother I would give them a good cuff round the head! Aye, right at the start of the first half. |
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Post by gobby cow on Nov 15, 2007 12:41:04 GMT
I am absolutely appalled. If I hear anything similar in future I will make sure something is done about it.
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Post by dave on Nov 15, 2007 12:57:17 GMT
To be fair though Alison, Mazey is a c**t. |
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