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Post by The sound and the fury on Nov 28, 2020 16:15:26 GMT
Shepshed are in Tier 3 so we can't have anyone attend the FA Vase match next Saturday. Let's hope Widdy can be allowed to video it though?
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Post by adycrean on Nov 29, 2020 15:34:59 GMT
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Post by jupu on Dec 1, 2020 18:04:28 GMT
It's an FA competition, guess the prize money goes some way towards making up for lost revenue due to being played bcd, unlike league games.
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Post by polishfrankp on Dec 5, 2020 17:10:00 GMT
Well, we won't be seeing any more of that. Yet another bad tactical decision by the management to take off our man of the match, Demetri Brown on a hat trick. Why can't they put on substitutes to pack the midfield and prevent the other team playing, Shepshed had already showed they were dangerous a and yet again we concede a goal in the last minute to lose a game we should have won. Unbelievable!
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Post by Tim Munslow on Dec 5, 2020 17:12:20 GMT
Still, the winner was worthy of winning any game: a "Ronnie Radford" type of goal. But how we conceded that in the final 10 minutes I'll never know!
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Post by steves on Dec 5, 2020 17:15:30 GMT
Absolute s*** show. Were it not for Brown who is another level that would have been a 3-0 loss with chances squandered. Nothing has changed post lockdown.
Ditch this formation with two wing backs and get back to a proper solid midfield, Birch and Robbo can’t do it on their own. Tactical naivety throughout. If Locko is fit, he’s the first name on the team sheet right? So is he only fit enough to play for one minute?
I don’t blame the players as there’s some real quality in there, but Ash needs to change how we operate, because clearly - it’s not working!
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Post by jupu on Dec 5, 2020 17:45:07 GMT
If ever there was a good time to change manager, it's now. Nothing left to play for, no game for at least two weeks and potentially more games will be called off in January. Alternatively we can look forward to Boxing Day and losing to a well motivated team managed by two ex-City players.
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Post by leon on Dec 5, 2020 17:51:59 GMT
Think Ash currently serving a 4 game suspension according to the WFA website so is he to blame for today? No idea why he is banned
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Post by jupu on Dec 5, 2020 17:56:19 GMT
Well, he's to blame for not being there to do his job.
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Post by The sound and the fury on Dec 5, 2020 18:10:28 GMT
Can only assume Ash was charged by the FA/sent off at Gresley after the whistle, which would have been a second red this season so a 4 match ban. Either way, it wasn't his call to make that fateful 82nd minute sub at 2-0. All the same, you'd expect a group of players would know how to see out a 2-0 lead for 8 minutes, especially given some of the experience out there.
People are going to turn if there isn't change. Results and quality of football played haven't been good enough this season.
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Post by jupu on Dec 5, 2020 19:09:48 GMT
So three players and our manager were all suspended for today's game? Or has Adaggio has been released? And presumably Vincent will miss another 3 games after today.
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Post by steves on Dec 5, 2020 19:22:33 GMT
If I went into my competitors offices, smashed it up a bit, grabbed one of their employees by the throat (allegedly) and then blamed it on their offices being run down anyway, I’d have been summarily dismissed. Just not good enough.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Dec 5, 2020 19:37:21 GMT
I don't know the stats, but does Vincent stand as the worst manager in terms of results that the club has had in the last 30 years?
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Dec 5, 2020 19:57:11 GMT
As for today, as soon as Brown got taken off, the ball just kept coming back, with no one making any runs to hold onto it up front. Add to that, misplaced pass after misplaced pass just gave them easy possession. The decision to let Joe Hawkins go still baffles me, as we let in another three. The non selection of Lockett continues to amaze, as does the continuation of tactics that plainly aren't effective.
I haven't read anywhere that Ashley Vincent had got given a four match ban, but ban or not, he's simply not up to it.
With the season over, other than a relegation fight, it's time to make the change now. The Board know that they will get rid of him some time, so might as well do it now. The results can hardly get worse can they ?
Wonderful winner for Shepshed from Barry Williams territory.
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Post by Croc on Dec 5, 2020 20:19:41 GMT
AnY - it’s on the Worcestershire FA site:
Ashley Vincent Worcester City FC 4 matches All Football From 10/11/2020
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Post by jupu on Dec 5, 2020 20:40:57 GMT
I don't know the stats, but does Vincent stand as the worst manager in terms of results that the club has had in the last 30 years? He's the only manager since Nobby Clark to see his side score 9 goals in one game. Couldn't say about PPG but I suspect Richard Dryden had a worse record. It may be that Ash will do a really good job as manager for someone, but right now he's in a rut and I can't see it turning around without further detriment to Worcester City FC.
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Post by leon on Dec 5, 2020 22:39:02 GMT
Surely the Gresley incident was nothing serious and amicably resolved according to what I read in the WN 🤔
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Post by The Verner on Dec 5, 2020 23:54:45 GMT
Ash was sent off against Stafford Rangers at half time in the FA Cup alongside their manager. The FA panel took a long time to come to a decision/ hold the review and that suspension only started from todays game. I can only put the time it took down to the WFA mostly being furloughed and some staff doing part time hours during that time.
Ryan Winwood and Luke English were suspended for todays game. Ryan had a 3 game ban, Luke had 1 game left to serve which was today.
It should be noted that Aaron Roberts reached his yellow card accumulation and will miss our next league fixture, he was allowed to play today as yellow cards are competition specific, unfortunately not the case for red cards hence the other two being suspended
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Post by The Verner on Dec 5, 2020 23:55:16 GMT
Surely the Gresley incident was nothing serious and amicably resolved according to what I read in the WN 🤔 Correct
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Post by citytoon on Dec 6, 2020 8:31:31 GMT
Ash was sent off against Stafford Rangers at half time in the FA Cup alongside their manager. The FA panel took a long time to come to a decision/ hold the review and that suspension only started from todays game. I can only put the time it took down to the WFA mostly being furloughed and some staff doing part time hours during that time. Ryan Winwood and Luke English were suspended for todays game. Ryan had a 3 game ban, Luke had 1 game left to serve which was today. It should be noted that Aaron Roberts reached his yellow card accumulation and will miss our next league fixture, he was allowed to play today as yellow cards are competition specific, unfortunately not the case for red cards hence the other two being suspended Sounds to me like there are discipline issues at the club. That needs to be sorted from the top, yet we have a manager who can’t even behave himself. The club deserves better.
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Post by richwidd on Dec 6, 2020 10:53:51 GMT
Thanks to the Nine people who made a donation to the club for the live stream yesterday
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Post by creaner on Dec 6, 2020 12:22:35 GMT
Thanks to the Nine people who made a donation to the club for the live stream yesterday Is there a link for that Rich? I might be bit daft but can’t find it.
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Post by adycrean on Dec 6, 2020 12:24:37 GMT
Thanks to the Nine people who made a donation to the club for the live stream yesterday Only caught the last 15 minutes. But excellent coverage as always
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Post by adycrean on Dec 6, 2020 12:26:12 GMT
Thanks to the Nine people who made a donation to the club for the live stream yesterday Is there a link for that Rich? I might be bit daft but can’t find it. wcfcshop.com/product/donate/
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Post by The sound and the fury on Dec 6, 2020 14:15:57 GMT
Donation made. Paid what would have been the entry fee to the game. Thanks for allowing us the opportunity to not have to suffer the journey home!!
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Post by crosscountrymark on Dec 6, 2020 16:39:08 GMT
Well what can you say 2-0 up with eight minutes to go, you take off your striker who scored two and you concede three goals in eight minutes to lose the game. This poor defeat is costly to the club and its coffers, this was down to poor game management and consistent to what has happened this season. The poor performance in the league and 16th in the table is totally unacceptable to a club like Worcester City , combined with the discipline issues on the pitch and the managers actions off it. The manager has dragged the clubs name through the mud with him getting sent off against Stafford, unprofessional behavior at Lye, and the Gresley dug out incident and the criminal damage and assault on a Gresley official and his attitude towards the incident. With the club moving back to Worcester to Claines Lane and the playing management having a decent budget we should be doing better on the pitch, the board need to have a serious look at the situation before he drags us into a relegation dogfight. Why did they appoint a manager who was woeful last season and why has he allowed Hawker to leave when his defence leaking goals and problems with a number of players. I will leave it up to the board, but cannot see things getting better under the current management team. I would like to see someone like Townsend the Stourport Swifts manager who are 4th in the league on a low playing budget or Mark Owen a Worcester City legend to take the club forward and build a team ready for next season. I go to home and away games and have seen plenty of games to base my comments on this season.
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Post by Woodenose on Dec 6, 2020 16:43:14 GMT
Well what can you say 2-0 up with eight minutes to go, you take off your striker who scored two and you concede three goals in eight minutes to lose the game. This poor defeat is costly to the club and its coffers, this was down to poor game management and consistent to what has happened this season. The poor performance in the league and 16th in the table is totally unacceptable to a club like Worcester City , combined with the discipline issues on the pitch and the managers actions off it. The manager has dragged the clubs name through the mud with him getting sent off against Stafford, unprofessional behavior at Lye, and the Gresley dug out incident and the criminal damage and assault on a Gresley official and his attitude towards the incident. With the club moving back to Worcester to Claines Lane and the playing management having a decent budget we should be doing better on the pitch, the board need to have a serious look at the situation before he drags us into a relegation dogfight. Why did they appoint a manager who was woeful last season and why has he allowed Hawker to leave when his defence leaking goals and problems with a number of players. I will leave it up to the board, but cannot see things getting better under the current management team. I would like to see someone like Townsend the Stourport Swifts manager who are 4th in the league on a low playing budget or Mark Owen a Worcester City legend to take the club forward and build a team ready for next season. I go to home and away games and have seen plenty of games to base my comments on this season. You can't have seen the post ,Ashley resigns then?
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Post by simples on Dec 6, 2020 17:35:12 GMT
Well what can you say 2-0 up with eight minutes to go, you take off your striker who scored two and you concede three goals in eight minutes to lose the game. This poor defeat is costly to the club and its coffers, this was down to poor game management and consistent to what has happened this season. The poor performance in the league and 16th in the table is totally unacceptable to a club like Worcester City , combined with the discipline issues on the pitch and the managers actions off it. The manager has dragged the clubs name through the mud with him getting sent off against Stafford, unprofessional behavior at Lye, and the Gresley dug out incident and the criminal damage and assault on a Gresley official and his attitude towards the incident. With the club moving back to Worcester to Claines Lane and the playing management having a decent budget we should be doing better on the pitch, the board need to have a serious look at the situation before he drags us into a relegation dogfight. Why did they appoint a manager who was woeful last season and why has he allowed Hawker to leave when his defence leaking goals and problems with a number of players. I will leave it up to the board, but cannot see things getting better under the current management team. I would like to see someone like Townsend the Stourport Swifts manager who are 4th in the league on a low playing budget or Mark Owen a Worcester City legend to take the club forward and build a team ready for next season. I go to home and away games and have seen plenty of games to base my comments on this season. Even when we were one up you felt we just had an advantage, we never looked comfortable. When Brown got his second I thought a little breathing space. OK, two up with minutes to go Brown gets taken off. The breathing space did not last long as Shepshed scored straight from the kick-off. So we are back to a knife edge situation. The equaliser duly arrived and I was thinking is there extra time or penalties. They weren't needed as they scored an absolute cracker worthy of winning any game. Credit to Shepshed for battling right to the end. As for City, the defence has looked vulnerable from the beginning of the season. At any level if you leak goals the confidence goes, pressure gets heaped on the strikers to score and the team descend a vicious spiral. Have just seen that the team manager has gone so who or what next?
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Post by The sound and the fury on Dec 6, 2020 17:40:20 GMT
Controlled the game yesterday until we went 2-0 up. Their first has come when he's not been closed down on the edge of the box and has just lashed it into the middle and it's missed everyone to end up in the net, second one was a really bad error from Ben Birch who completely misjudged the header and missed the ball, might have possibly been a call for offside as the ball has rebounded off the one Shepshed player and the other has hit it, and the third one is the sort of hit that 99 times out of 100 ends up not being stopped by a net. Can't legislate for the third one, but the first two were very very avoidable and neither should have happened at 2-0 up.
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Post by polishfrankp on Dec 6, 2020 22:17:12 GMT
Fully agree that we controlled the game until Demetri went off. The defending was poor thereafter, and had been somewhat iffy earlier but got away with it,as it has been all season. We have been leaking goals all season. Can't see why Hawkins was let go, Vincent obviously didn't like him. I am so chuffed that Vincent has had the decency to resign, probably before he was pushed!! He was one of the worst managers we have ever had and I would've liked to see him go much earlier in the season. Lets hope City can find someone to turn our season round.
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