harley
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Post by harley on Dec 4, 2019 11:25:52 GMT
Even bigger stumbling block......some moron told the Worcester News and it appears Sixways is no longer an option unless the board can bring it back to the table! It is, as it stands, only one option that is left It would not surprise me at all if the "moron" in question wears a green rosette at election time and appeared in this WN article claiming most of the credit for bringing Claines Lane forward as an option www.worcesternews.co.uk/sport/18049184.explained-councils-role-worcester-citys-claines-lane-talks/
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Post by The Verner on Dec 4, 2019 11:39:27 GMT
No idea as not part of Trust.
As ive said before, I do not believe that they would say that. As Jem says above much of what was in the article was untrue, as mentioned at the meeting last week.
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Post by richwidd on Dec 4, 2019 13:17:55 GMT
www.worcesternews.co.uk/sport/18076170.city-finished-two-years-without-worcester-return/I can't see us being any better off at Claines. It's in Worcester - tick, but that's about all it's got going for it. The offer of a Sixways take over is much more appealing, & the only stumbling block seems to be a desire to not give up community ownership for some reason. Community ownership would have enabled us to get grants etc for Perdi, yes - but that's all over now. That is completely untrue
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Post by thatloudbloke on Dec 4, 2019 14:52:47 GMT
as the meeting information was made public i think that the letter from Warriors should also be made public so that all can read what the proposal was as not all this information has been made clear.
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camper
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Post by camper on Dec 4, 2019 16:16:17 GMT
Should the council consider allowing the original planning application for the stadium at Perdiswell, for the WFA to use and put the City in there as tenants at a neglible rent and we could then sub let to the Raiders to ground share with us. This would solve all the problems for WFA by way of football pitches and a 3G pitch, the council itself promise to bring the city home and save on all the amounts of money being spent at Claines Lane and the proposed loan to the WFA.
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Post by crosscountrymark on Dec 4, 2019 16:55:07 GMT
Our current position is we are paying £800 a match to Bromsgrove Sporting who get the revenue from catering and clubhouse takings as well as providing post match food for the players which I presume is paid for by WCFC. The club is projected to lose £25000 this season a £5000 increase on last seasons loss mainly due to reduced revenue from reduced crowds. The meeting at the cricket club was a anti-climax as we knew what options were on the table as these were leaked by the Worcester News prior to the meeting. The one thing that surprised me was that the Trust/board hadn't put a application for a land asset transfer for the Perdiswell project, the reason given was they were all volunteers and never had time to do it. Unless the club can rekindle talks with the Bond Group for Sixways, it looks likely it will the Claines Lane option . The Claines Lane option is littered with problems to address , work has stopped at this location so when will it be ready for MPL ground grading standards with the 31/3/2020 deadline to advise the league for next season. Their are traffic issues and parking problems, with the news that the ground rent would be the same as Bromsgrove, I cannot see Worcester Raiders paying the WFA this type of money. They tell us the club will have a office at the site and share the bar/function facility with the Raiders, currently the site is just a pitch with changing rooms. With the ground rent being the same as Bromsgrove , I feel its always going to be a struggle on the financial side to make ends meet and to provide a decent playing budget to make any progress on the pitch. I have always been in favour of community ownership , but without Perdiswell and the options for funding towards ground improvements, which will not be required at Claines Lane. We will have to trust the Trust/Board to make a important decision to secure the clubs future be it being Sixways or Claines Lane as time is running out. The Worcester City council involvement with the WFA in Claines Lane gives me a bad taste in the mouth after how we got treated over Perdiswell , but it maybe the only option on the table. A big well done to Steve Goode for all the good work he does to help the club and increase the clubs profile , like the recent collection for the Worcester foodbank.
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Post by crosscountrymark on Dec 4, 2019 20:18:24 GMT
After reading the article in the Worcester News about the WCC loaning the WFA £750000 to complete the work at Claines Lane for a 100 seat stand and offices and clubhouse . With all the planning/highway issues and time scale to complete the work and dealing with a WFA who are clueless in starting work when it never had the money to finish it, thats the reason the work has stopped. Glaines Lane is a non starter for me, its Worcester Warriors or bust, how our trust/Board deal with this problem with time running out and club funds dwindling, it looks like a another season at Bromsgrove unless the Warriors owners get back to the club, up to last Sunday no reply from them. I am a shareholder and trust member and watch City home and away subject to work commitments and the future of our club is in real doubt and the board must act to secure the clubs future and not go down a road of past poor decisions to put the club at risk.
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Post by cloud on Dec 5, 2019 8:17:18 GMT
as the meeting information was made public i think that the letter from Warriors should also be made public so that all can read what the proposal was as not all this information has been made clear. There's a reader comment at the foot of yesterday's WN article about a letter.... Letter of Intent from Bond Investments !?!
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Dec 5, 2019 11:58:03 GMT
as the meeting information was made public i think that the letter from Warriors should also be made public so that all can read what the proposal was as not all this information has been made clear. I would imagine that the Letter of Intent would be subject to full confidentiality. I would hope so! The financial and contractual details of all and any offers should remain confidential so that the Board of Directors can carry out their discussions and negotiations.
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kendin835
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Post by kendin835 on Dec 5, 2019 15:13:27 GMT
This NOT TRUE that is not what the meeting is about!! Andy Mitchell @sirandymitchell · 3h Shareholders will vote whether to enable a full takeover of worcestercityfc at a meeting a week today less than a year after becoming fan owned. @wcfcsupporters Trust chairman Dave Wood explains why he's backing the proposal 👇 worcesternews.co.uk/sport/18076385
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Post by stamoo on Dec 5, 2019 19:38:45 GMT
ITS GO TO BE SIXWAYS here are some reasons why:
Without a move to a viable alternative the Club will be dead in 2 years.
At SixWays we can attract quality players who will want to come and play for a big set up and at a stadium like Sixways.
Those players will have access to premiership standard dressing rooms, medical and training facilities.
We will have full access to and support of the Warriors commercial department, professional people instead of part-time volunteers (wonderful thought they are) we will be better able to attract sponsorship and no doubt have access to a section of the club shop at the stadium and on-line.
Sixways has all the car parking and transport links you could wish for (and no need to apply for planning permission - no nimbys either! or awkward councillors, so up yours Worcester City Council!’
At a stroke not only would survival be assured we would have POTENTIAL to progress all the way up the pyramid and into the football league - certainly more potential then any other non-league club I can think of in Midlands and South West.
We will back in Worcester and the crowds will start to increase, believe me they will come, especially if we start climbing up the pyramid.
Ok selling the club to new owners involves a loss of control, a leap of faith, but that’s the same for any club at whatever level (the Glaziers?] but what other option is there? Compare SixWays and Claines Laine - a field with a fence around it which will cost us the same as we are currently paying Bromsgrove?
This is a golden opportunity many, many other clubs like ours would die for. We should be doing everything we can to persuade the Warriors owners to take us on, SIXWAYS it makes sense!!!!
Please Lord as a special Xmas present to all the long-suffering City fans, make it happen.
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Post by thatloudbloke on Dec 5, 2019 19:39:47 GMT
as the meeting information was made public i think that the letter from Warriors should also be made public so that all can read what the proposal was as not all this information has been made clear. I would imagine that the Letter of Intent would be subject to full confidentiality. I would hope so! The financial and contractual details of all and any offers should remain confidential so that the Board of Directors can carry out their discussions and negotiations. if that is so why was it shown at the meeting & read out word for word, that is why i mentioned that others who are either trust or shareholders who could not make the meeting have the same knowledge as those who could.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Dec 5, 2019 19:43:26 GMT
I would imagine that the Letter of Intent would be subject to full confidentiality. I would hope so! The financial and contractual details of all and any offers should remain confidential so that the Board of Directors can carry out their discussions and negotiations. if that is so why was it shown at the meeting & read out word for word, that is why i mentioned that others who are either trust or shareholders who could not make the meeting have the same knowledge as those who could. In which case it isn't under confidentiality, which is surprising, considering that the Claines Lane financials were not disclosed.
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harley
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Post by harley on Dec 5, 2019 19:58:38 GMT
Sections of the letter were redacted when it was displayed as part of the presentation. The rest was then read out, mostly fluff apart from bits that gave assurance as to the protection of club name, badge, and colours and also agreeing to form an advisory committee of board/trust members to guide the potential takeover and future of WCFC under Bond Investments ownership
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Dec 5, 2019 21:31:21 GMT
Correct harley. The interesting part of the letter of intent - ie the financial aspect detailing what Bond Investments were willing to offer for the club was totally redacted. That should remain confidential and it was. The rest was indeed read out.
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Post by ossie1981 on Dec 6, 2019 0:22:23 GMT
Stamoo has got it bang on. City have a chance other clubs would die for in getting the Sixways set up. This would be a massive mistake if we can't get this done.
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camper
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Post by camper on Dec 6, 2019 15:35:48 GMT
If the expectation is that the city pay £800 plus a month it begs the question if the Raiders pay the same amount then I find it hard to believe that they can afford it.
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Post by bj on Dec 6, 2019 16:16:27 GMT
i would imagine that the only reason the Sixways owners would want to 'pay' for WCFC is so that they don't have to start their Worcester Warriers FC from the bottom rung of the league pyramid? The outlay is to buy a Step 5 position from which to launch their new team. I'm all for it.
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Post by The Verner on Dec 6, 2019 17:57:06 GMT
What is stopping them in that case buying Raiders?
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Post by Noboddy aka Lord Ealing on Dec 6, 2019 18:44:38 GMT
In buying WCFC they get a history and far better marketing potential. Locals will relate more readily with us rather than the relatively new Raiders. I for one wouldn’t bother going to watch them, whereas a resurgent WCFC is a different matter. Mind you in a short while Raiders may well be the top team in the city, so all the more reason to get this deal done.
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Post by ossie1981 on Dec 7, 2019 1:45:39 GMT
I agree, if Raiders got in it would I think spell the end for City. We need to this deal done, as Boris would say.
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Post by zeke on Dec 7, 2019 14:44:47 GMT
Wherever we end up can we please keep Tim on the PA? Excellent music choices
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Post by Tim Munslow on Dec 10, 2019 11:32:40 GMT
I've read the article in the Evening News today and am now more confused than ever. If the FA rules on ownership of more than one club are quoted correctly then it would be impossible for the Warriors' owners to take us over.
Can anyone who really knows what they're talking about enlighten me on this? If I read the rules correctly then it applies to non-league clubs down to Step 6, and I appreciate that - at present - Morecambe (their other club) are a league club, but they're bottom of League Two and looking ever likely to return to non-league football next season.
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Post by Woodenose on Dec 12, 2019 8:42:53 GMT
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Post by City4Eva on Dec 12, 2019 19:36:46 GMT
Claiines Lane iit is then next season. Announced at AGM
Not sure whether will be grass or 3G main pitch? Share with Raiders?
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Post by cloud on Dec 12, 2019 20:39:33 GMT
Claiines Lane iit is then next season. Announced at AGM Not sure whether will be grass or 3G main pitch? Share with Raiders? Grass to start with. Share with Raiders. OK the decision has been made, let's all get behind it and make it a success. Down the lane again.
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Post by Woodenose on Jan 24, 2020 8:49:46 GMT
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Post by Woodenose on Apr 30, 2023 19:36:19 GMT
Looks like an investor will be taking over the club, if you are a Trust member check your e-mails
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Post by wcfcwarwick on May 3, 2023 21:00:36 GMT
I’m unlikely to be able to get to the meeting on 15th May when the potential investor will be revealed. I have got a proxy vote that must be cast by 14th May. Is there any chance the name of the investor can be revealed before the meeting so I can vote with some knowledge? I do understand the club is in a dire financial position and I trust the Trust but I would like to know who it is. I suppose the one comfort is that a club with no property assets to strip is unlikely to attract dodgy investors.
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Post by cogg on May 5, 2023 12:04:54 GMT
After years of effort to get the old guard out and make the club a community one, we've got 10 days to decide on giving that all up ? This can't be right... and doesn't this mean the end of the Trust if an owner buys the 51% ?
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