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Post by Croc on Sept 28, 2018 14:27:21 GMT
From the local political reporter at the BBC on Twitter:
“The Trust have won their planning appeal to have a new stadium for the club built at Perdiswell. The plans had been rejected by Conservative councillors. @myworcester must now decide whether to sell or gift the land.”
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Post by thesecondjack on Sept 28, 2018 15:15:21 GMT
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Post by Mark on Sept 28, 2018 15:34:09 GMT
I recall in the past, rumours that the council would have to pay the Trusts costs if the appeal was won. Was that true or just speculation?
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Post by thesecondjack on Sept 28, 2018 15:48:29 GMT
As far as I can tell from that, we don't know if costs will be awarded yet or not.
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Post by foreverintheshed on Sept 28, 2018 16:42:57 GMT
I particularly enjoyed the fact the inspector was called G Jones!
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Post by Tim Munslow on Sept 28, 2018 16:45:56 GMT
I have to admit that I did not see this day dawning: I thought the odds were stacked against us, however I have to admit I was WRONG, and congratulations to those who pursued the appeal when hope seemed lost. What worries me now is where do we go from here?
Anyone know what the next move is? Can the City council seek a judicial review of the appeal judgement? Would they if they could, bearing in mind they may yet have to foot the bill for the current appeal? Will they sell us the land? Or is there an appetite to gift it to us? Surely Councillor Jones and friends won't regard this as the end of the matter?
Whatever the outcome tomorrow will dawn a little brighter!
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Sept 28, 2018 17:21:11 GMT
Excellent news and congratulations to all concerned for the excellent professional plans and for not giving up. This is just the first step, but totally vindicates the Trust's position.
As for the Council
1) It proves that the Planning Committee decision was solely political, and not based on any planning criteria whatsoever. If Planning Chairman Chris Mitchell had any hint of credibility, he'd be tendering his resignation ASAP for his biased decision making. He's a disgrace.
2 ) The Council gave 9 holes of its own public ratepayer owned golf course to Raven Meadow Golf Club on a long term lease for a rent of £ 16,000 pa. If the Council doesn't " gift " the land for free, then having set this precedent in the past, leasing the land is surely an option.
3) As there are no planning grounds on which to appeal the Inspector's decision, surely even the shamed Mitchell can't waste even more ratepayers money following the Parsonage Way fiasco.
4 ) The inspector was independent and stated that it would Provide considerable community and recreational benefits ". Mitchell's view was virtually the exact opposite. he ought to hang his head in shame.
As for Anthony Hampson
He can hang his head in shame as well for not getting behind the Perdiswell plans, and then throwing his hat in with the farce that was Parsonage way. His motives still remain lost on me.
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Post by jupu on Sept 28, 2018 18:33:22 GMT
Almost a year since this was posted... Attachments:
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Post by Noboddy aka Lord Ealing on Sept 28, 2018 19:55:15 GMT
This is the result of a massive amount of hard work. Well done to all concerned.
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Post by Noboddy aka Lord Ealing on Sept 28, 2018 20:01:05 GMT
Talking of Hampson, is it a coincidence that this step forward has occurred just weeks after he sods off?
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Post by simples on Sept 28, 2018 21:33:24 GMT
Excellent news. A shame it has taken so long but that is more to do with the council playing silly b+++++s.
From the Worcester Newsreport: But the fight isn’t over yet – the council owns the proposed site and any sale or lease “would have to be discussed and agreed” by councillors, a WCC spokesman said
This concerns me somewhat. Is there a timescale? Given the councils track record with this project I hope they don't stall things now that a small chink of light has appeared.
One small step but in the right direction.
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Post by ac on Sept 29, 2018 7:05:00 GMT
From what I quickly read yesterday I understand that we have three years to start building.
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Oct 10, 2018 17:08:15 GMT
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Post by Tim Munslow on Oct 17, 2018 6:12:31 GMT
Following Cllr Mitchell's statement in today's Worcester News I have submitted the following letter to that newspaper: I publish it here just in case the EN doesn't publish it, or edits it. There was much more I wanted to say but you're limited to 200 words.
"The article in which Chris Mitchell calls for “a compelling business case” for the above reminds me of Oscar Wilde’s saying “nowadays people know the price of everything and the value of nothing.” It betrays his lack of knowledge about the importance of football in people’s daily lives. If this was an application for an arts workshop, a community centre or a church would he base his decision on a “business case”? Some things are more valuable than money.
As Bill Shankly once said “some people believe football is a matter of life and death. I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that”. That is how its supporters feel about Worcester City FC.
I am sure the club will present a cogent business case, but that should not be the sole consideration. At present the club plays to a few hundred estranged from their home town, but if a new stadium is built who knows how many will attend? In the 1989 film Field of Dreams (based on a real story) it is said “build it (the stadium) and the people will come”. Let’s hope that this happens."
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Oct 17, 2018 11:03:11 GMT
Just to clarify, and put it into context. Bill Shankly did not believe that football was a matter of life and death to anyone other than his obsessive self, and he very much regretted that fact . someone said to him once "To you, football is a matter of life and death" and he replied "Listen its more important than that" but that was only referring to him. He was a self confessed football addict, he had just one interest in life, one topic of conversation, and everyone had to endure his obsession. He regretted the fact that this had a profound effect on his neglected family, and wished that he didn't feel the way he did about football. I don't think he'd wish that level of obsession on anyone.
I think that it is very fair of Chris Mitchell to base any considerations for transfer of land on a compelling business case, and indeed a compelling business case has already been presented to the City Council. Myself, Rich Widdowson, Lobgen Consulting and Supporters Direct all worked on providing a detailed case of activities, revenues, expenditure, utilisation levels, not just of the football pitch, but also of the 3G pitch and facilities within the stadium buildings. An updated business case will of course be presented when we are negotiating a way forward for Perdiswell, and this is progressing as we speak. What should be of more concern, not only to City fans, but to the citizens of Worcester, is that the very same Chris Mitchell was content to spend £57,000 of ratepayers money on a scheme for Worcester City FC, which had no compelling business case, and no business plan, on a patch of unusable land at Parsonage Way........and he was happy to provide this council land at well below market value!
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Post by Noboddy aka Lord Ealing on Oct 17, 2018 11:18:08 GMT
"Some things are more valuable than money." If only the rest of the world saw that Tim, it would be a better place.
Again I'd like to thank all those working for this. It takes real guts to get up off the canvas when you keep getting knocked down. Mere mortals like me just roll over and whinge. The likes of Jem; Rich; Bingo etc etc are true heroes.
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Post by Row Zed on Oct 17, 2018 13:55:43 GMT
It's very poor of Mitchell on how he's cone out in the press and given such weak reasoning on the situation, it's not as if he's under pressure in a live debate on it all, to think he's actually sat down and prepared this statement in his own time and that's the best he can come up with, he should be embarrassed to hold the position he does
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Oct 17, 2018 17:35:11 GMT
Can whoever is copying and pasting my posts on here, and putting them onto the Worcester News website please stop doing it. Its just lazy, don't do it.
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Post by Croc on Oct 17, 2018 17:53:38 GMT
I’ve used some of your figures and such in the past in letters to the WN - but always tried to paraphrase them. You’re right - just copying and pasting is just unoriginal and lazy.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Oct 17, 2018 18:39:33 GMT
Lord Ealing, I'm no hero. I'm a bloody good father and an ok husband, and I'm happy with that.
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Post by Noboddy aka Lord Ealing on Oct 17, 2018 19:57:45 GMT
Don’t argue with me. If I say you’re a hero, you’re a hero.
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Post by cogg on Oct 19, 2018 8:54:06 GMT
Ealing, asking Jem not to argue is like asking a bear to stop s*******g in the woods ;-)
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Post by niels on Oct 19, 2018 10:45:22 GMT
Ealing, asking Jem not to argue is like asking a bear to stop s*******g in the woods ;-) Are there any woods let for the bears to do their business in? Perhaps we could let them use Perdiswell, along with the residents dogs.
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Post by Woodenose on Oct 23, 2018 15:51:47 GMT
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Post by The Verner on Oct 24, 2018 8:07:48 GMT
Read one of the comments on the news item. Denz I think it was, shows what is going on here!
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Post by Woodenose on Oct 25, 2018 7:30:40 GMT
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Post by ianhunt on Oct 25, 2018 7:50:30 GMT
Trigg also confirmed there had been no discussions with Worcester City over using Claines Lane as a new home.
“They made enquiries, probably several years ago now, but it was dismissed as an unsuitable site for them,” she added.
“Ours is a much smaller operation. We are not talking about teams with massive followings, it is predominantly for grassroots including Sunday, women’s and youth teams.
This is a quote from Worcester news today......shouldn’t affect the perdiswell application hopefully??....
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Post by Woodenose on Jan 29, 2019 8:07:15 GMT
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Post by Woodenose on Jan 31, 2019 11:56:52 GMT
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Post by downthelane on Mar 27, 2019 9:49:33 GMT
How’s the new ground coming on?
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