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Post by thatloudbloke on Nov 4, 2016 11:12:23 GMT
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Nov 4, 2016 11:53:36 GMT
An undisclosed fee ? I'm amazed that the Board feels that we are rich enough to pay any fees for players, and that we need more players. We have the biggest and deepest squad I can remember for years, and I dread to think what the wage bill is. By my reckoning we have 25 players signed on plus Boot on loan. Are we that cash rich, or are some players being released ?
I think that we've got ( i know a few are out on loan )
3 Goalkeepers - Boot, Draper,Ross
7 Defenders - Weir, Sharpe, Hutchison, Smith, Gallinagh, Oji, Morris
7 Midfielders - Jackman, Gater, Waldron, English, Fitzpatrick, Nelson-Addy, Keane
9 Forwards - Lee Hughes, Bates, Chilekwa, Olukanmi, Bishop, Murphy, Craig, Steele, Connor Hughes
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Post by ibraslimavic on Nov 4, 2016 11:56:25 GMT
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Post by ibraslimavic on Nov 4, 2016 11:57:29 GMT
We also have Micah Evans and James Chambers to add to that list
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Post by Tim Munslow on Nov 4, 2016 12:49:41 GMT
What little I have seen of Joe Fitzpatrick I have been highly impressed and I can't understand (a) why he hasn't featured more and (b) why we should let him go.
I have rarely seen him waste a pass. Strange decision.
Does that mean he can play AGAINST us in the up-coming home game with Telford?
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Post by cloud on Nov 4, 2016 14:10:48 GMT
An undisclosed fee ? I'm amazed that the Board feels that we are rich enough to pay any fees for players, and that we need more players. We have the biggest and deepest squad I can remember for years, and I dread to think what the wage bill is. By my reckoning we have 25 players signed on plus Boot on loan. Are we that cash rich, or are some players being released ? I think that we've got ( i know a few are out on loan ) 3 Goalkeepers - Boot, Draper,Ross 7 Defenders - Weir, Sharpe, Hutchison, Smith, Gallinagh, Oji, Morris 7 Midfielders - Jackman, Gater, Waldron, English, Fitzpatrick, Nelson-Addy, Keane 9 Forwards - Lee Hughes, Bates, Chilekwa, Olukanmi, Bishop, Murphy, Craig, Steele, Connor Hughes Agreed. The days of us paying fees for players should have ended >20 years ago. |
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Post by adycrean on Nov 4, 2016 14:15:36 GMT
I would've thought the objective would be to steer clear of relegation and then drive the budget down far as as possible
On the player himself - to paraphrase a mate of mine who's a Halifax fan: flashes of great play, not much in between
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Post by thatloudbloke on Nov 4, 2016 15:18:51 GMT
An undisclosed fee ? I'm amazed that the Board feels that we are rich enough to pay any fees for players, and that we need more players. We have the biggest and deepest squad I can remember for years, and I dread to think what the wage bill is. By my reckoning we have 25 players signed on plus Boot on loan. Are we that cash rich, or are some players being released ? I think that we've got ( i know a few are out on loan ) 3 Goalkeepers - Boot, Draper,Ross 7 Defenders - Weir, Sharpe, Hutchison, Smith, Gallinagh, Oji, Morris 7 Midfielders - Jackman, Gater, Waldron, English, Fitzpatrick, Nelson-Addy, Keane 9 Forwards - Lee Hughes, Bates, Chilekwa, Olukanmi, Bishop, Murphy, Craig, Steele, Connor Hughes Draper Heads Out On Loan - News - Worcester City FC Keeper, Nick Draper goes out for a month's loan & Fitzpatrick goes to Telford |
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Post by thesecondjack on Nov 4, 2016 15:40:09 GMT
Not a clue on this new winger, but I doubt the fee will be much. We did pay a fee for Heeded the first time around too, I believe - so it's not like it's the first time.
Welcome to the club, hopefully he is another Hughes that can score for fun.
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Post by dcx on Nov 4, 2016 16:11:25 GMT
Fitzpatrick leaving is absolutely criminal, he should be starting every game IMO. We have basically strengthened a rival and weakened ourselves. And yet still Junior English is here...
Guessing we are going back to playing wingers though, despite the diamond working so well for us thus far.
I don't really understand the squad shake up, we have more than enough to keep us up as is so incurring additional costs for limited gain is not a very sensible choice IMO.
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Post by ibraslimavic on Nov 4, 2016 16:49:57 GMT
There's plenty more areas of the pitch we require strengthening in we now have Keane, Steele, Evans, Murphy, as well as C. Hughes who can play wing with Olukanmi on loan and Elija I'm not even sure what the situation is. Meanwhile we have one right back. Pretty much one left back part from Keane able to cover there.
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Post by dcx on Nov 4, 2016 18:43:43 GMT
There's plenty more areas of the pitch we require strengthening in we now have Keane, Steele, Evans, Murphy, as well as C. Hughes who can play wing with Olukanmi on loan and Elija I'm not even sure what the situation is. Meanwhile we have one right back. Pretty much one left back part from Keane able to cover there. I would imagine Keane will drop back to his natural left back now we have Hughes in, maybe Tyler will then move to RB and Gallinagh to the bench. Murphy isn't really a winger, more a striker deployed there, he didn't play on the wing for Walsall or Kiddi, he's technically being played out of position as is Keane and Steele. Chilekwa must have left without telling anyone, and Nathan is on loan at Leamington, so really Evans and Hughes are our only "natural" wingers we have at the moment! |
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Post by ibraslimavic on Nov 4, 2016 19:21:25 GMT
That's it then! Sorted hahaha
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Post by jupu on Nov 4, 2016 20:01:44 GMT
As far as I know Carl had only ever paid a transfer fee for one player before today. That was a "nominal" fee to Stourbridge for Geddes when we signed him first time, as stated above.
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Post by ibraslimavic on Nov 4, 2016 20:46:52 GMT
Well I guess we are at least showing some ambition by going out and trying to improve the team. Let's see how we shape up over the coming games.
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Post by thesecondjack on Nov 4, 2016 22:27:13 GMT
I suspect having the day off tomorrow will help, with the players able to work together in midweek training before the Telford game to sort out positions and so on. Carl must have an idea for formation which will no doubt become clear to us next week. The expectations preseason were to avoid the drop, we're now looking like that's fairly easy to achieve, and midtable is realistic. Is it perhaps some very ambitious plan to sneak into the playoffs with the squad changes? Maybe that is the plan everyone has been wanting to know!  |
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Post by ibraslimavic on Nov 4, 2016 23:38:00 GMT
Very good shout, if we can start taking points off teams in the top half of the league we could push on
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Post by thatloudbloke on Nov 5, 2016 8:23:37 GMT
Carl has had those thoughts all season to aim for playoff's, as per my conversation with him at Leamington, when i said looks like we could finish mid table with this squad & Carls reaction was *** etc we are going for playoffs, that was the ambition i & most supporters want, yes we had an indifferent start but now they are on the front foot, & yes i would love to see us get to playoffs...
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Post by Tim Munslow on Nov 5, 2016 17:15:54 GMT
We would need to find some consistency, particularly against those higher in the table. If I am right Ryan Boot's loan period(s) can't extend beyond 93 days, so we need to be looking at another stopper (unless we are going to rely on Nick Draper getting fit).
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Post by adycrean on Nov 5, 2016 17:21:55 GMT
Fitzpatrick has been released
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Post by cloud on Nov 7, 2016 7:46:29 GMT
Play offs? What?
We can't even afford the playing budget for National North, it's ruining us. Don't even think about play offs / promotion.
Is everyone in some kind of mass denial?
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Nov 7, 2016 11:32:31 GMT
I'm not ! Carl and Snapper do a great job all in all, but a mid table survival is my optimistic hope for the season, plus a run in the FA Trophy. Play offs are a mile away.
As for the budget, based on previous years we'll be losing at least another 120 k off the 500 k we started the season with ?
The Board are leaving the imaginary Plan B a bit late.
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Post by bobafettywap on Nov 7, 2016 14:31:46 GMT
Play offs? What? We can't even afford the playing budget for National North, it's ruining us. Don't even think about play offs / promotion. Is everyone in some kind of mass denial? Club's dying. Why not go out with a bang? |
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Post by ibraslimavic on Nov 7, 2016 18:10:26 GMT
Was that a bonfire night reference perhaps? I see your angle to be fair would a promotion help save the club?
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Post by cloud on Nov 8, 2016 7:46:12 GMT
Club's dying. Why not go out with a bang? Why do you say that? It's not just you, lots of people seem to think the club is dying, it's not. Worse case scenario? - our days of National North are coming to an end in a few years time, so what? Wolverhampton Wanderers fans have a saying, it's also displayed on the hoardings at Molineux - "This is our love and it knows no division." I'd like to think that City fans have the same ethos.... |
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Post by thesecondjack on Nov 8, 2016 10:31:15 GMT
Well we have gone off topic a bit here!
For clarity when I suggested it might be a plan for us to get promoted, it didn't mean I supported the idea, as much as it would be nice in the short term to see us win a few more games.
Say in 3 years time we're still in the National North, still in exile, still running at a sizeable loss, but the money has run out - what then? I suspect we would probably fold and a phoenix club will emerge - but that's not WCFC, that's a different beast. As much as I don't want the club to die, I think it's a bit blind of someone to say that it isn't, when over the last few years in particular we have seen the sale of the clubs only real asset, huge losses, not much left in the coffers to build a new ground and no plans that we know of to save the club.
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Post by cloud on Nov 8, 2016 11:06:44 GMT
Say in 3 years time we're still in the National North, still in exile, still running at a sizeable loss, but the money has run out - what then? We would have to (finally) operate within our means. |
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Nov 8, 2016 12:34:34 GMT
I totally agree with Cloud, its really disappointing to see so called supporters saying that a new incarnation of WCFC would not be WCFC. Do you think Aldershot Town fans feel the same? And Hereford fans? No, they support the efforts of their community and make sure that they do what they can to keep football relevant in their towns. I bet every single Hereford FC fan associates fully with Ronnie Radford, and the win over Newcastle, its part of their heritage, and they aren't that fickle to say "Its not HUFC" Why, even Dudley Tyler was at the last game, it will always be the same club, just a different constitution, and what a fantastic job their fans have done of making the transition, thank goodness they had the courage to act and make the change instead of propping up the failing HUFC Ltd company so they could just watch bit of football.
Sometimes you read comments like that and wonder whether its worth the effort that the Supporters Trust Directors are putting in, and have put in over the last 10 years, they're present up at York today working on the Supporters Trust behalf, to look at how we can transition to a sustainable Worcester City FC. So sorry that it won't be WCFC as you know it, but unlike you, we want to be able to have a football club in Worcester that can represent our city as WCFC, and it will be the same WCFC, just a different constitution. And if we have to rise back up through the ranks again like Aldershot, like Hereford, like Leamington, then we will bloody well do it.
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Post by thesecondjack on Nov 8, 2016 14:01:25 GMT
I have never been against the idea of a new club, but fact is fact, it will not be the same club.
Wcfc and afcwc are now the same thing. We can take heritage, memories, connection, but it is not wcfc.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Nov 8, 2016 14:48:25 GMT
So you're saying that a supporter owned club would not be the same club? If the constitutional change at the General Meeting had been passed, it would not be the same club?
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