Warriors

[leejackson345]

Seems very quiet on here.
I must say I am very disappointed to see that it has broken down with Warriors.

[steves]

Can’t say I am. Last thing I want for the club is to be a wealthy individuals play thing, playing in from of 400 people in an enormous stadium. Seems like a lucky escape if you ask me.

[leejackson345]

Nov 19, 2019 22:57:56 GMT steves said:

Can’t say I am. Last thing I want for the club is to be a wealthy individuals play thing, playing in from of 400 people in an enormous stadium. Seems like a lucky escape if you ask me.

It could have been a whole new level of operation. Marketing, the setup, investment, it would have been a new lease of life for the club that I could have got behind.

[steves]

That’s all well and good until five years later when the owners get bored. Kettering, Rushden, Hornchurch, need I go on?

I support City because it’s City, not because of the marketing or the investment. If you can’t get behind your club just because it’s your club, I don’t know why people bother. You may as well declare yourself a Liverpool fan and start supporting them.

[cloud]

For anyone unaware of what's happened;

www.worcesternews.co.uk/sport/18046980.worcester-city-sixways-option-gone---now-claines-lane/

"...when members and shareholders meet at Worcestershire Cricket Club on Thursday, November 28."
I'm a shareholder, but this is the first I've heard about this meeting.

[leejackson345]

Nov 20, 2019 9:04:09 GMT steves said:

That’s all well and good until five years later when the owners get bored. Kettering, Rushden, Hornchurch, need I go on?

I support City because it’s City, not because of the marketing or the investment. If you can’t get behind your club just because it’s your club, I don’t know why people bother. You may as well declare yourself a Liverpool fan and start supporting them.

So long as Sixways is a stadium, the owners will want the facility being used and making money. 
I can't see how they would ever get "bored". 

I also support City because it's City. I think that is a bit of a nonsense reply. I want the club to prosper and be successful.

The only two options to me are:

1st option - Perdiswell, of course. Fan owned. (unfortunately, this looks like it's got absolutely no chance now)
2nd option - Sixways. Hand over the reigns to new owners who have the knowledge on how to run two successful elite sports teams, with a trusted track record.

I fail to see another option that doesn't commit us to further years of no growth, struggling to try and break even, no success on the pitch and dwindling enthusiasm from a shrinking fanbase.

[adycrean]

This conversation is exactly the point….. As supporters / Trust members / shareholders - there are a wide range of opinions out there.

For me, what is important is that shareholders / trust members were getting the chance to provide views, and agree / vote on the future we most like the look of. What the Trust & Club Boards have been doing a very nice job of is creating options to bring to the table. It is a real shame that, somehow, one of the two main options has now been eliminated.

With a bit of a heavy heart, I think I would have favoured a Warriors option. Not without risk, but gives WCFC (as it is now) far more options.

Verner: you are dismissing Warriors owners’ version of events... If they are not 100% accurate, what is the reason for them withdrawing their 'offer'?

[The Verner]

Nov 20, 2019 12:22:37 GMT adycrean said:

This conversation is exactly the point….. As supporters / Trust members / shareholders - there are a wide range of opinions out there.

For me, what is important is that shareholders / trust members were getting the chance to provide views, and agree / vote on the future we most like the look of. What the Trust & Club Boards have been doing a very nice job of is creating options to bring to the table. It is a real shame that, somehow, one of the two main options has now been eliminated.

With a bit of a heavy heart, I think I would have favoured a Warriors option. Not without risk, but gives WCFC (as it is now) far more options.

Verner: you are dismissing Warriors owners’ version of events... If they are not 100% accurate, what is the reason for them withdrawing their 'offer'?

That is my opinion Ady, I don't believe the trust board would sit there and say that, something of such importance to Club future I fully believe they would have said that they would need to put to membership.

I could be wrong but I believe in Dave, Mike etc

[adycrean]

Nov 20, 2019 12:41:30 GMT The Verner said:

Nov 20, 2019 12:22:37 GMT adycrean said:

This conversation is exactly the point….. As supporters / Trust members / shareholders - there are a wide range of opinions out there.

For me, what is important is that shareholders / trust members were getting the chance to provide views, and agree / vote on the future we most like the look of. What the Trust & Club Boards have been doing a very nice job of is creating options to bring to the table. It is a real shame that, somehow, one of the two main options has now been eliminated.

With a bit of a heavy heart, I think I would have favoured a Warriors option. Not without risk, but gives WCFC (as it is now) far more options.

Verner: you are dismissing Warriors owners’ version of events... If they are not 100% accurate, what is the reason for them withdrawing their 'offer'?

That is my opinion Ady, I don't believe the trust board would sit there and say that, something of such importance to Club future I fully believe they would have said that they would need to put to membership.

I could be wrong but I believe in Dave, Mike etc

Yes, I am of the same view. Maybe the Warriors reason given is simply a convenient excuse for a change of direction

[Mark]

Nov 20, 2019 11:18:21 GMT leejackson345 said:

Nov 20, 2019 9:04:09 GMT steves said:

That’s all well and good until five years later when the owners get bored. Kettering, Rushden, Hornchurch, need I go on?

I support City because it’s City, not because of the marketing or the investment. If you can’t get behind your club just because it’s your club, I don’t know why people bother. You may as well declare yourself a Liverpool fan and start supporting them.

So long as Sixways is a stadium, the owners will want the facility being used and making money. 
I can't see how they would ever get "bored". 

I also support City because it's City. I think that is a bit of a nonsense reply. I want the club to prosper and be successful.

The only two options to me are:

1st option - Perdiswell, of course. Fan owned. (unfortunately, this looks like it's got absolutely no chance now)
2nd option - Sixways. Hand over the reigns to new owners who have the knowledge on how to run two successful elite sports teams, with a trusted track record.

I fail to see another option that doesn't commit us to further years of no growth, struggling to try and break even, no success on the pitch and dwindling enthusiasm from a shrinking fanbase.

I agree with you Leejackson345. I’m going to be out of the country on 28th so can’t attend the meeting but as far as I’m concerned if the Warriors owners want to take over I am all for it

[steves]

Hmm, well I seem to be a little out of touch on this issue. Still not sure how I’d have felt if we reverted from being community owned, and as it stands with the council saying they’ll provide funding to get Claines Lane up to standard, that’s what I’d have preferred. Perhaps I’m clinging on to some magic event to allow Perdiswell when really it’s dead and going.

Seems the option of Warriors has now largely gone, but judging by the wording of the article, might be saveable.

I’ll be in London on the 28th so can’t make the meeting either, which is quite frustrating.

[thatloudbloke]

we in my humble opinion, why have we been screaming to change how the club is run to be community owned, & now that is in place we want to give the club to a consortium owned club by people who have no interest in the football club, they just want the name to add to their collection, & when the sell Warriors what would happen to the club i have & generations of my family have loved for far too many years to say, the Claines Lane option has to be the best option at this time.

[Woodenose]

It has to be Claines Lane, this would double the gate receipts and save on the rent given to Bromsgrove, and with possible advertising could see the club in profit in a full season at "The new Lane"

[cloud]

Agenda of the meeting is..the future. Any more details?

I hope the outcome of the meeting really doesn't have the significant impact on the future, as stated in the announcement. It will probably be attended by only a small % of the total trust members and shareholders. I'm sure people who cannot attend would like to still be involved in having a say on the future of the club.

[ossie1981]

Six ways was not ideal but it means coming back to worcester and gives us a future. Instead everything is still up in the air, like Brexit. We don't have money or lots of other viable options, people need to wake up and smell the coffee so to speak.

[camper]

I believe that Perdiswell is not an option for us as the Worcestershire FA have laid claim to all the available space for football pitches. In particular a 3G pitch exactly where our Stadium was earmarked for development. The FA lays claim to the land as was notified in the Worcestershire development Plan and the monies earmarked to the council. If my belief is wrong and my facts wrong then I would apologise. It would seem strange if we are being stabbed in the back by the WFA.

[zeke]

I think Claines Lane is preferable going forward and getting younger fans back to the club. But, short term, with an older fan base, there's no parking within reasonable walking distance. Although I suppose free bus passes could come into play?

[cloud]

Nov 21, 2019 12:48:21 GMT steves said:

Seems the option of Warriors has now largely gone, but judging by the wording of the article, might be saveable.

We are a fan owned club, so I don't think club or trust representatives would have already turned anything down on their part. Decisions are down to the fans (shareholders and trust members) to make.

Edit Saturday...I think more info is needed about the letter sent for the meeting. I've read it numerous times and I don't have a clue what I am voting about.

[steves]

Can someone confirm dates, I've seen the 28th November above, but the letter I have from the Club states a meeting on the 12th December. Is this a separate meeting or has it been moved?

Cloud, the resolution basically seems to state that a 60% majority is required to sell the club.

[The Verner]

Nov 23, 2019 21:16:27 GMT steves said:

Can someone confirm dates, I've seen the 28th November above, but the letter I have from the Club states a meeting on the 12th December. Is this a separate meeting or has it been moved?

Cloud, the resolution basically seems to state that a 60% majority is required to sell the club.

AGM is 12th December. Next week is pre "AGM meeting"

[shrimpsfan]

Hi, Morecambe FC fan here. Can anybody provide any info on this for us please? Can our owners take over your club whilst owning us? We hear next to nothing from them so I am a bit concerned at this development.

Thanks.

[nward68]

I will be at the meeting on Thursday as a supporters trust member ,I don't know exactly what will happen,if there will be a vote on the night or just a discussion,but I presume it will be a choice of moving to clains lane or going with the sixways idea or staying as we are it will be interesting

[leejackson345]

Nov 22, 2019 20:16:05 GMT cloud said:

Nov 21, 2019 12:48:21 GMT steves said:

Seems the option of Warriors has now largely gone, but judging by the wording of the article, might be saveable.

We are a fan owned club, so I don't think club or trust representatives would have already turned anything down on their part. Decisions are down to the fans (shareholders and trust members) to make.

Edit Saturday...I think more info is needed about the letter sent for the meeting. I've read it numerous times and I don't have a clue what I am voting about.

What letter? 
I'm a trust member. Should I have received something?

[The Verner]

Nov 25, 2019 11:51:08 GMT leejackson345 said:

Nov 22, 2019 20:16:05 GMT cloud said:

We are a fan owned club, so I don't think club or trust representatives would have already turned anything down on their part. Decisions are down to the fans (shareholders and trust members) to make.

Edit Saturday...I think more info is needed about the letter sent for the meeting. I've read it numerous times and I don't have a clue what I am voting about.

What letter? 
I'm a trust member. Should I have received something?

AGM notes sent out to shareholders Lee

[crosscountrymark]

In the letter to shareholders , they are asking us to vote on a resolution for the club so it can be sold if 60% agree, was this previously 80% ? , is this how I am reading this resolution ? . At the meeting I am told by a trust board member we will have three options to vote on, I presume 1, Perdiswell to continue the fight, 2, Claines Lane option, 3, Six ways option. Whatever option we take has got to be sure its the right one and gives the club a future and makes business sense .The Bromsgrove ground share is not sustainable long term with the clubs money dwindling and crowds down to 200-300, we have two seasons max at most. Its important we get back to Worcester, even if we have to take the Claines Lane option, its not ideal and not sure how it will work as a business plan, it will need a lot of work to get it up to Midland Premier League standard. No doubt we will be updated about all the options and feedback on all the meetings the Trust/Board have had on Thursday. Its important that as many supporters as possible can attend to voice their concerns , its the clubs future we will be deciding which route to go down.

[ossie1981]

We should seriously consider the six ways option, this will give us long term future and would be part of a great set up. Really don't think the "community" aspect should hinder the decision. Small thinking equals small club.

[cloud]

Nov 26, 2019 18:11:51 GMT crosscountrymark said:

In the letter to shareholders , they are asking us to vote on a resolution for the club so it can be sold if 60% agree, was this previously 80% ? , is this how I am reading this resolution ? . At the meeting I am told by a trust board member we will have three options to vote on, I presume 1, Perdiswell to continue the fight, 2, Claines Lane option, 3, Six ways option

Only the 60% bit is on the agenda in the letter and able to be voted on by post if not attending the meeting.

[crosscountrymark]

Anyone got any ideas for parking tonight as the cricket club has flooding issues on its car park ?.

[City4Eva]

Lloyds Bank up by the roundabout has a few parking spaces

[harley]

First night of the Victorian Fair so traffic could be slow with all the coach drop off points around town