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Post by zeke on Oct 23, 2017 18:11:05 GMT
His latest Tweet is "Decisions 🤔"
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Post by The sound and the fury on Oct 23, 2017 18:26:57 GMT
The one before that, also now deleted, was about "getting rid of keyboard warriors"
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Post by Down The Pan on Oct 23, 2017 19:04:07 GMT
The old keyboard warrior defence? I doubt he would even notice the irony.
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Post by Tim Munslow on Oct 23, 2017 19:19:47 GMT
Well, I'm sticking up for Brad Birch: do any of you "keyboard warriors" who post on here actually know the fellow? He's one of our better players and from what I've seen and when I've spoken to him he seems a really nice bloke. (Remember his intervention at Ludlow to stop trouble?). Ok, so perhaps he's let himself down with that post, but I think he was still fuming at the red card. And what, exactly, has it got to do with Tyler Weir anyway?
If, as Brad's post suggested, the referee had his back to the incident, didn't see it and simply re-acted to what the Sherwood players said had happened, then that's a poor piece of refereeing: if neither the referee or the linesman saw the incident then he should have done nothing. It would be really interesting to see footage of the incident before we all jump to conclusions.
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Post by sleepinggiant on Oct 23, 2017 19:57:34 GMT
Well, I'm sticking up for Brad Birch: do any of you "keyboard warriors" who post on here actually know the fellow? He's one of our better players and from what I've seen and when I've spoken to him he seems a really nice bloke. (Remember his intervention at Ludlow to stop trouble?). Ok, so perhaps he's let himself down with that post, but I think he was still fuming at the red card. And what, exactly, has it got to do with Tyler Weir anyway? If, as Brad's post suggested, the referee had his back to the incident, didn't see it and simply re-acted to what the Sherwood players said had happened, then that's a poor piece of refereeing: if neither the referee or the linesman saw the incident then he should have done nothing. It would be really interesting to see footage of the incident before we all jump to conclusions. Yeah. He's a lovely bloke. www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/8949815.City_soccer_hopeful_locked_up_for_attack/ |
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Oct 23, 2017 20:36:58 GMT
Well, I'm sticking up for Brad Birch: do any of you "keyboard warriors" who post on here actually know the fellow? He's one of our better players and from what I've seen and when I've spoken to him he seems a really nice bloke. (Remember his intervention at Ludlow to stop trouble?). Ok, so perhaps he's let himself down with that post, but I think he was still fuming at the red card. And what, exactly, has it got to do with Tyler Weir anyway? If, as Brad's post suggested, the referee had his back to the incident, didn't see it and simply re-acted to what the Sherwood players said had happened, then that's a poor piece of refereeing: if neither the referee or the linesman saw the incident then he should have done nothing. It would be really interesting to see footage of the incident before we all jump to conclusions. Oh dear Tim Munslow, you really don't know him at all do you? And if "as Brads post suggested" the referee had his back to the incident, what on earth was Brad doing watching the referee? You're right, if neither the referee or the linesman saw the incident then he should have nothing, which suggests that the ref did see something. Sounds like he thought that the ref wouldnt see anything, and got caught out! |
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Post by The sound and the fury on Oct 23, 2017 20:49:57 GMT
The ref was about a yard and a half to Brad's right, and only slightly in front of him. He picked up the elbow in his peripheral vision, that's how close he was. You won't see a more blatant elbow either, totally deliberate pop at the (very irritating) opponent who basically ran into his back. I was directly in line with it front on and had a clear and uninterrupted view. Didn't hear what the opponent said, but Brad swore at him as he popped his elbow back, and if it could be heard from the sideline it could certainly be heard by the referee a yard or so away!
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Post by oxford on Oct 23, 2017 21:37:20 GMT
He's one of "the lads" and,as we all know,the only thing that matters is supporting "the lads".
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Post by genghis on Oct 24, 2017 4:07:21 GMT
Well, I'm sticking up for Brad Birch: do any of you "keyboard warriors" who post on here actually know the fellow? He's one of our better players and from what I've seen and when I've spoken to him he seems a really nice bloke. (Remember his intervention at Ludlow to stop trouble?). Ok, so perhaps he's let himself down with that post, but I think he was still fuming at the red card. And what, exactly, has it got to do with Tyler Weir anyway? If, as Brad's post suggested, the referee had his back to the incident, didn't see it and simply re-acted to what the Sherwood players said had happened, then that's a poor piece of refereeing: if neither the referee or the linesman saw the incident then he should have done nothing. It would be really interesting to see footage of the incident before we all jump to conclusions. Yeah. He's a lovely bloke. www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/8949815.City_soccer_hopeful_locked_up_for_attack/How have I never heard this before? What a thug. |
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Oct 24, 2017 10:33:11 GMT
It must be the season for defending the indefensible with Tim Munslow now sticking up for Brad Birch as well as the Board ! By the way, I gave Brad Birch credit for stepping in at Ludlow to quell the spectators handbagging, so I like to think that I'm being fair.
However teej's description of the incident is correct. Brad Birch raised his elbow in trying to get in front of his opponent, although in fairness I didn't think that he swung his elbow in at all with any malicious intent, and just placed it across him trying to get in front of him. But you just can't raise your arms plain and simple - we all saw it with Wayne Thomas the week before. The ref in his opinion ( which at the end of the day is the only one that matters ) gave what he gave, same as the 2 refs who sent off Danks and Thomas. Having seen all 3 incidents, we cannot just keep blaming the refs - we have to have the savvy and nous to simply not put ourselves in the situation in the first place.
Unnecessary red cards cost us plenty last season ( although the Board would have got us relegated anyway ! ), and Snape and Hughes have to sort out the discipline straightaway. At the pre season Trust meeting they attended, they were made fully aware by fans of the team's disciplinary record, and said that they would sort it out. Now is the time to start.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Oct 24, 2017 10:49:28 GMT
Its always amazed me that so few footballers, and so few managers, figure out how to play referees. Some players manage to get away with blue murder, because they are smart, but there really aren't that many.
You see it all the time in cricket, where players butter up the umpires when decisions are turned down "a bit down the leg side? You're right!", having a few quiet complimentary words, getting them "onside" In rugby, the rather condescending way of calling the ref "sir" even though you're seething with him inside. They know when to push, and how to push, and what the refs response will be. I've spent this last season watch Luke Gale managing the likes of Ben Thaler and James Child all season, Jamie Peacock was a master of it!
Surely Snape and Hughes have had all the refs in this league watched? And have a dossier on each one, how they control a game, what they like / dislike ? What you can say, what you can't say? Jeez, even when Dan was at Wychbold, and Perrywood, we knew how the kids (and parents) had to behave if we had Dave Herbert! Just one swear word, and you saw a red card, so you just don't do it!
We are continually blaming referees, so...the refs are crap? Deal with it!
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Oct 24, 2017 11:17:18 GMT
Good to see WN have reported on the social media “spat” which is the prime concern in my eyes. Also good to see that the Board will seriously consider the issue at their meeting on Thursday. Tick ✅ from me.
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Post by The sound and the fury on Oct 24, 2017 11:45:30 GMT
Yet still no sign of an apology from the captain for his conduct on or off pitch. Doesn't seem to have twigged yet that being captain of one of the biggest names in semi-professional football carries a lot of responsibility and an expectation of conduct that befits the position. At the very least Birch needs to make a public apology to his managers and show some kind of contrition. And then concentrate on his football, winning games for City with his undoubted ability on the pitch.
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Post by Down The Pan on Oct 24, 2017 12:37:21 GMT
He doesn't get it does he? Its not as if there hasn't been a precedence set AT THE SAME CLUB. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-15734403Look at Mr Laylands comments in the article. Mr Layland said: "We take racism very seriously, this took us all by surprise." "We are involved in Kick Out Racism, which has basically been taken out of our hands by someone we employ." Don't the club give thier players a bit of guidance on how they should behave? Whether serious or said in jest, you just don't do it in public. |
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Oct 24, 2017 15:02:20 GMT
The Club are meeting Thursday night to deal with it which is fair enough. You cannot teach common sense, and the availability of social media makes news ( usually bad ) travel fast. Players have to be aware.
Mynameisalreadytaken makes some good points about game managing the ref. A smart player weighs up the refs and remembers the good ones and the bad ones, and what they will allow. For those of us who remember Kieran Mooney ? A true City fan who I would talk to at matches, yet as a football ref, when playing I minded my language. Any foul and abusive language and you were off, whether you were mates or not ! I knew how to manage the ref, why are our players and management so slow to learn ?
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Oct 24, 2017 15:19:19 GMT
These players all know who the refs are, most of them would have been reffed by this lot last season, so its hardly rocket science to work out how a ref manages a game. Its like when we used to have Kevin Ruff reffing, Dan would moan and whinge that he got pinged every time he backed into defenders, so it was obvious, don't back in to defenders! step off and take the ball earlier. We also knew that when we had Ernie Triana that the game would be a lottery! I loved Ernie! especially when he had forgotten his red and yellow cards, so he used his AA membership card (yellow) and his Santander Debit card (Red) He also issued a blue card once, which had everyone going WTF??? Apparently it was something brought into six a side, and trialled at some levels in 11 a side, and Ernie decided to run his own trials!!
Mind you, we had the best " manager" of referees playing for us at Wychbold, a certain Charlie Driscoll! I've never known anyone, lest of all a 14 year old, who was chirping at the ref all game. He'd be complimenting him, asking questions, giving him advice, apologising to him, and being a right pain in the a**e, in the nicest possible way of course! The kid was a genius !!
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Post by Tim Munslow on Oct 24, 2017 17:20:29 GMT
I was unaware of Brad Birch's "previous" I have to say; I judged him purely by what I saw on the pitch and my conversations with him afterwards. I didn't even know he had been on our books before.
I obviously stand corrected.
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