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Post by Croc on Dec 13, 2017 16:09:15 GMT
If you hadn’t flagged it up there Julian - I would never have known it was happening. Unfortunately I won’t be able to go along to have a look tonight.
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Post by rushwickdon on Dec 13, 2017 16:51:29 GMT
3pm-7pm when people work?
Seriously?
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Post by Fred on Dec 13, 2017 16:58:01 GMT
3pm-7pm when people work? Seriously? Trust did nearly exact same time....3 - 8 for Perdiswell Consultation. And i fail to see how the Club havent kept this in peoples eye line. Its been announced on website and on social media and its top of the charts on the website
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Post by thesecondjack on Dec 13, 2017 17:04:39 GMT
There's another consultation next week, I'll put pictures up online of all the boards later today, if anyone wants any questions asked to the architects, I'll ask them for you!
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Post by jupu on Dec 13, 2017 18:47:39 GMT
I was told the drawings - and they are potential designs only at this stage - will be posted on the club website at 9pm tonight.
The proposal is for a phased development, initially for a 1,300 capacity stadium. It will sit right next to the woodland.
The planning application will be a full application for a 5,000 capacity stadium - although as stated above any development will be phased.
It appears no costings have been established at this stage.
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Post by thesecondjack on Dec 13, 2017 18:54:53 GMT
Technology problems posting them on here, but hopefully you can all see the Pictures of the boards on my facebook page... As Julian said, they should be up on website at 9pm too.
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Post by rushwickdon on Dec 13, 2017 19:09:18 GMT
Come on Fred, people knew the broad outline of the Perdiswell proposals- people know NOTHING about the "serious" proposals for PW. Yet it seems that 240 minutes is ample time to cover everything being put forward. Perhaps these ideas are just "chocolate teapot" We shall see.........
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Dec 13, 2017 19:49:01 GMT
There's another consultation next week, I'll put pictures up online of all the boards later today, if anyone wants any questions asked to the architects, I'll ask them for you! Or contact them directly yourself Chris Partington Zebra Architects Stablemasters Cottage, Basin Road, Diglis, Worcester WR5 3GA Phone 01905 351472 Email Chris at chris@zebraarchitects.co.uk
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Dec 13, 2017 20:05:08 GMT
The drawings were fine, very vanilla, and certainly nothing objectionable, mainly because they are as Julian says, merely conceptual designs.
Brigadier, imagine a football pitch, with a little stand on the one side but not the whole length of the side, and with two small covered stands behind each penalty box, and thats it. But it might not look anything like that, and no-one knows what it is likely to cost, neither the Board , or the architects!
Parsonage Way still is very much Pie In The Sky
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Post by thesecondjack on Dec 14, 2017 12:37:30 GMT
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Dec 14, 2017 13:21:07 GMT
Could you make the images zoomable, or clickable so they can be opened full screen? As they are on the website, its not possible to read the writing as its too small
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Dec 14, 2017 13:27:41 GMT
The letter from Sixways Stadium (who are NOT Worcester Rugby Club or Worcester Warriors, and could well be the Scottish RFU in a few weeks time) may as well read that they would be offering free hotdogs to everyone who turns up for games in a mankini! Veggie option for this young man of course!
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Post by thesecondjack on Dec 14, 2017 15:28:46 GMT
Could you make the images zoomable, or clickable so they can be opened full screen? As they are on the website, its not possible to read the writing as its too small Not sure if I can in all honesty. I'll have a tinker later tonight... In the meantime try pressing ctrl & + to zoom in the meantime.
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Post by cloud on Dec 15, 2017 9:23:52 GMT
The drawings were fine, very vanilla, and certainly nothing objectionable, mainly because they are as Julian says, merely conceptual designs. Brigadier, imagine a football pitch, with a little stand on the one side but not the whole length of the side, and with two small covered stands behind each penalty box, and thats it. But it might not look anything like that, and no-one knows what it is likely to cost, neither the Board , or the architects! Parsonage Way still is very much Pie In The Sky Yes, very modest at the moment, which I liked. I also liked; the smaller pitches for training/community use, the main ground pitch being below entry level to keep buildings low. The main ground looks very close to the M5, the one corner looks less than half a pitch away. We would need a big set of nets to stop the ball going over. I understood the smaller pitches & main pitch will all be grass. The architect seemed to think they had to be grass for the football leagues we play in / intend to play in - which isn't the case. It's probably just grass to keep cost down.
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Post by thesecondjack on Dec 15, 2017 14:54:19 GMT
Afraid I cannot work a way to get them enlarged or zoomable on the website... you could try to right hand click, save and zoom through your photo viewer though.
- tech support.
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Post by genghis on Dec 15, 2017 15:20:10 GMT
If viewing on iPhone, the words are readable just by zooming in a bit.
If viewing on a computer, just hold ctrl and use the mouse scroll button to enlarge the page. If you’re using an older mouse with no scroll button, you can enlarge the screen in the settings tab of your browser.
I’ve tried both iPhone and computer and it only takes a slight enlargement to be able to read the text.
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Post by Croc on Dec 15, 2017 16:55:11 GMT
If viewing on iPhone, the words are readable just by zooming in a bit. If viewing on a computer, just hold ctrl and use the mouse scroll button to enlarge the page. If you’re using an older mouse with no scroll button, you can enlarge the screen in the settings tab of your browser. I’ve tried both iPhone and computer and it only takes a slight enlargement to be able to read the text. I’m waiting for downthelane to come in here and tell us in great detail what the plans said and how great it all is. I’m surprised it hasn’t popped its head up here yet
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Dec 15, 2017 20:07:58 GMT
If viewing on iPhone, the words are readable just by zooming in a bit. If viewing on a computer, just hold ctrl and use the mouse scroll button to enlarge the page. If you’re using an older mouse with no scroll button, you can enlarge the screen in the settings tab of your browser. I’ve tried both iPhone and computer and it only takes a slight enlargement to be able to read the text. What does the letter from Sixways Stadium say Genghis?
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Post by thatloudbloke on Dec 15, 2017 21:07:04 GMT
the information from sixways dated 12th Dec 2017 as best i can decipher.
we can confirm discussions with WCFC in relation to potential use of the parking facilaties at sixways stadium as an overflow system, with reciprocal & commercial details to be discussed further.
please note sixways holdings Ltd or WRFC trading Ltd are in no way contractualy bound or obliged to provide or agree to the above services.
General Manager
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Dec 15, 2017 21:11:41 GMT
So, we confirm we've talked, but we also confirm that we haven't agreed to anything at all!
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Post by maybe1day on Dec 15, 2017 21:47:31 GMT
So, we confirm we've talked, but we also confirm that we haven't agreed to anything at all! Wait till they VE the project (value engineering) when they realise the costs, it's a joke and very poorly thought out. Yes it looks good on paper but most projects do, just saying.....
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Post by jupu on Dec 16, 2017 9:01:58 GMT
Am I the only one here who is uncomfortable with the idea of digging up a field and building over a large amount of green space for the benefit of WCFC? Wouldn't it be better to develop an existing sports venue - whether that's Perdiswell, or Claines Lane, or Nunnery Wood SC?
I can see there might be a case to put to the residents that what is proposed here would be better than another industrial building, particularly if there is some benefit to the local community (bizarrely Warndon Villages FC currently use Little Perdiswell as their HQ!). That's assuming the facilities are not just for WCFC.
Also I might be wrong but it appears that games on the main pitch would be viewable for free from the raised banks?
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Post by harley on Dec 16, 2017 9:23:49 GMT
Am I the only one here who is uncomfortable with the idea of digging up a field and building over a large amount of green space for the benefit of WCFC? Wouldn't it be better to develop an existing sports venue - whether that's Perdiswell, or Claines Lane, or Nunnery Wood SC? I can see there might be a case to put to the residents that what is proposed here would be better than another industrial building, particularly if there is some benefit to the local community (bizarrely Warndon Villages FC currently use Little Perdiswell as their HQ!). That's assuming the facilities are not just for WCFC. Also I might be wrong but it appears that games on the main pitch would be viewable for free from the raised banks? No, you are not the only one, particularly when this site is next to a SSSI and ancient woodland. I still can't get my head around the Green Party councillors preferring this site over Perdiswell (other than they want to protect their seats on the council)
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Post by simples on Dec 16, 2017 11:13:50 GMT
Am I the only one here who is uncomfortable with the idea of digging up a field and building over a large amount of green space for the benefit of WCFC? Wouldn't it be better to develop an existing sports venue - whether that's Perdiswell, or Claines Lane, or Nunnery Wood SC? I can see there might be a case to put to the residents that what is proposed here would be better than another industrial building, particularly if there is some benefit to the local community (bizarrely Warndon Villages FC currently use Little Perdiswell as their HQ!). That's assuming the facilities are not just for WCFC. Also I might be wrong but it appears that games on the main pitch would be viewable for free from the raised banks? No, you are not the only one, particularly when this site is next to a SSSI and ancient woodland. I still can't get my head around the Green Party councillors preferring this site over Perdiswell (other than they want to protect their seats on the council) - not sure if that worked. How does one vent ones frustration. It is blindingly obvious that PW is NOT appropriate. If it is below surrounding levels the biggest issue will be drainage. Then I suppose we could look forward to Carbon Monoxide gas flowing down the motorway embankment. etc.... Why 'dig up and level' when there is a perfectly level playing field at Perdiswell..... It will set off the Warndon Nimby against Perdiswell Nimby.... For the start of season 2019? 18 months away - somebody is having a giraffe.... All this has done is add further distraction while the emperor continues to fiddle..
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Dec 16, 2017 12:11:05 GMT
Couldn't agree with you all more. It really annoys me. PW is as much inappropriate for a ground, as Perdiswell is appropriate !
PW uneven, Perdiswell level. PW no transport links, Perdiswell plenty. PW you can't walk to, Perdiswell you can. PW no parking, Perdiswell plenty.
etc etc etc
As the decision of the Board to support PW is so illogical, what is it that we all don't know ? Why are the Board so committed to self destruction ? What has gone on privately between the Board, property developers, and the Council ? Whatever has gone on certainly seems to overrule common sense and all logical argument.
I was unable to make the first consultation, but will certainly be at the second, where I will be asking whoever the Board's fall guy is, these questions.
As for the plans, they are not plans. They are glossy drawings of what a ground could look like - wishful thinking to you and I. We could all draw our own. No costings at all, with a fag packet note from Sixways that we've had a chat about the possibility of parking !
i suspect that if you went into Doc Sorenson's and Dave Boddy's garages, you would find rolled up previous versions of glossy plans, albeit of more grandiose design. As with these, all bluff, and not worth the paper they're printed on.
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Dec 16, 2017 13:27:33 GMT
Ignoring all other factors the location is about as unattractive as you could imagine for a sports stadium. Even if it were built and even if City were a supporter owned club I doubt I could summon up the enthusiasm to drive to some god forsaken windswept allotment to pay to watch fifth rate soccer.
Happily this site is a non starter and never has been. It is and has always been a smokescreen so that the Chairman appears to be doing something whereas in truth ,as Always says, this is a plan that is not a plan. It is a work of fiction that suits the Council and Hampson has clutched at that particular straw because he is incapable or unwilling to devote himself in the way that is required to dig City out of the pit they are in. It’s always been the easy life for him and that is simply not enough. The Trust has shown how much talent and effort is needed to make something happen and the current unelected cabal that runs this Club has neither.
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Post by beenwatching on Dec 16, 2017 13:47:55 GMT
Ignoring all other factors the location is about as unattractive as you could imagine for a sports stadium. Even if it were built and even if City were a supporter owned club I doubt I could summon up the enthusiasm to drive to some god forsaken windswept allotment to pay to watch fifth rate soccer. Happily this site is a non starter and never has been. It is and has always been a smokescreen so that the Chairman appears to be doing something whereas in truth ,as Always says, this is a plan that is not a plan. It is a work of fiction that suits the Council and Hampson has clutched at that particular straw because he is incapable or unwilling to devote himself in the way that is required to dig City out of the pit they are in. It’s always been the easy life for him and that is simply not enough. The Trust has shown how much talent and effort is needed to make something happen and the current unelected cabal that runs this Club has neither.
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Post by beenwatching on Dec 16, 2017 13:48:51 GMT
Ignoring all other factors the location is about as unattractive as you could imagine for a sports stadium. Even if it were built and even if City were a supporter owned club I doubt I could summon up the enthusiasm to drive to some god forsaken windswept allotment to pay to watch fifth rate soccer. Happily this site is a non starter and never has been. It is and has always been a smokescreen so that the Chairman appears to be doing something whereas in truth ,as Always says, this is a plan that is not a plan. It is a work of fiction that suits the Council and Hampson has clutched at that particular straw because he is incapable or unwilling to devote himself in the way that is required to dig City out of the pit they are in. It’s always been the easy life for him and that is simply not enough. The Trust has shown how much talent and effort is needed to make something happen and the current unelected cabal that runs this Club has neither.
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Post by beenwatching on Dec 16, 2017 13:49:43 GMT
Ignoring all other factors the location is about as unattractive as you could imagine for a sports stadium. Even if it were built and even if City were a supporter owned club I doubt I could summon up the enthusiasm to drive to some god forsaken windswept allotment to pay to watch fifth rate soccer. Happily this site is a non starter and never has been. It is and has always been a smokescreen so that the Chairman appears to be doing something whereas in truth ,as Always says, this is a plan that is not a plan. It is a work of fiction that suits the Council and Hampson has clutched at that particular straw because he is incapable or unwilling to devote himself in the way that is required to dig City out of the pit they are in. It’s always been the easy life for him and that is simply not enough. The Trust has shown how much talent and effort is needed to make something happen and the current unelected cabal that runs this Club has neither.
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Post by downthelane on Dec 17, 2017 9:06:58 GMT
Does Beenwatching need to go on an IT course?
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