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Post by voiceoftreason on Aug 1, 2017 18:13:40 GMT
And here is the club statement in full:
In light of the recent planning refusal for Perdiswell the Football Club wishes to make its position clear to Fans and Supporters
In light of the recent planning refusal for Perdiswell the Football Club wishes to make its position clear to Fans and Supporters who have been asking whether we will mount an appeal against the decision.
The appeal process as confirmed by the Chairman of the Supporters Trust, David Wood must be lodged within 6 months of the hearing decision and could potentially take a further 6 months to go before an Independent Enquiry.
The appeal should be totally impartial and unrelated to the Politics that continually surround this planning issue. The costs for such an appeal could be well in excess of £50,000 requiring a Planning Barrister to take the process to its conclusion without any guarantee of success or reimbursement of fees, in the unlikely event that the appeal is determined in favour.
In view of the more important issue of the lack of confirmation concerning the Land Transfer Issue and the resistance by Councillors to grant Planning let alone gift the land to the Club, the Directors of Worcester City Football Club have concluded that it would not be viable to pursue an expensive appeal with no certainty of gaining the land to actually build such a facility that is beyond the Clubs current requirements and budget.
In the meantime The Football Club has continued to work with the Worcestershire FA and Worcester City Council to identify other sites in the City and have identified a plot of land owned by the Council at Parsonage Way ( adjacent to J6 on the M5 ) which they believe to be deliverable. These discussions have been ongoing for many months and now in an attempt to move this site to the top of the list and make it the new home for Worcester City Football Club.
The Supporters Trust have been advised many times that the Land at Perdiswell is not on the table to build a stadium for the Football Club but that Parsonage Way has been confirmed by the City Council to pursue and we can only hope that as a Board the Supporters Trust will now back the Parsonage Way opportunity and work with the Club to make that site happen.
The Clubs view therefore is that if the Trust insist on carrying on with their Appeal they will be doing so without the backing of the Football Club.
WCFC Board of Directors
Copyright 2017 Worcester City FC. Permission to use any quotations or pictures from this article is granted subject to appropriate credit being given to Worcester City FC website as the source
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Aug 1, 2017 19:24:52 GMT
The football club have never provided any backing for the Perdiswell project, they are on the planning application in name only, so no change there. They have given nominal funding to the project, and refused to pay half of a number of invoices for important survey work to get the application to completion. Hampson might have said that he was supporting Perdiswell as the future of the football club, but hopefully everyone can see now that he lied. He and his Board have never had any interest in the club changing its constitution to become a CBS, or any other form of community club. He and his Board have never had a plan for any other ground in Worcester, it was the City Council who came forward with Parsonage Way, this is the idea of Marc Bayliss and the Conservative group on the City Council. They have proposed Parsonage Way, not because it is suitable (it isn't) but because it is available land, and it is NOT Perdiswell. All the objections put forward against Perdiswell apply likewise to Parsonage Way. This site fails the criteria of Section 38 B in the SWDP, and in a bigger way than Perdiswell. It is also within close proximity to ancient woodlands, and a Grade 1 listed building. The club Board have been negotiating with the City Council behind the backs of the Supporters Trust, and have always tried to scupper the plans for Perdiswell, eventually asking the Supporters Trust to withdraw the planning application. However, if the club believe that this is the way forward, then let them carry on. I'd question certain comments in this statement, such as the cost of an appeal. £50,000? Planning barrister? It costs nothing to lodge an appeal, and although this might be the cost of the clubs legal assistance, it certainly won't be the cost of the Supporters Trusts legal assistance. It is a misleading, mischievous and incorrect comment, deliberately put out to undermine the efforts of the Supporters Trust and its advisors. If this cost was £50,000 then it is highly highly unlikely that the ST would consider appeal. So, to Parsonage Way. How much will it cost to put together a planning application for a ground at this site? The overall cost of the Perdiswell application was in excess of £150,000 , including pro bono work, and a lot of favours called in. And how far down the line are the club with this site? Has anyone seen any plans? Ask yourselves, if this site is so suitable, why did it not even reach a shortlist of alternative sites proposed during the City Council led investigations during 2016 when a Working Group was set up? What is the land use for this site designated in the SWDP? I'm sure that Hampson and Co already have the answers, havent they? But they won't tell shareholders of course.
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Post by Noboddy aka Lord Ealing on Aug 2, 2017 7:19:55 GMT
Parsonage Way is a perfect plan for Hampson and co. They know it will never happen, and it gives them plenty of opportunities for "consultancy" fees; "expenses" and other related payments so they can milk the last few thousands from the SGL account. Shameful.
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Post by oxford on Aug 2, 2017 11:40:13 GMT
Rightly or wrongly this is exactly what I was thinking!
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Post by downthelane on Aug 27, 2017 6:24:24 GMT
Has the appeal gone in?
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Post by dragon on Aug 27, 2017 9:22:23 GMT
Whoever gets planning permission and wherever it may be, who is ever going to get the money together to build a stadium ? Surely WCFC is in its death throws and needs to be put out of `our `misery ?
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Post by oxford on Aug 27, 2017 10:50:18 GMT
Unfortunately "Dragon" unless the constitution is changed so that ,were their to be a potential financial proposition, it could at least be considered,you are absolutely correct. We all know there is no chance of that happening so slow death is a certainty. Whilst I do plan to do a few away fixtures,purely because I don't want to lose touch with some very good friends,I see little point,or fun, in traipsing around the midlands week after week watching rubbish, and no point at all in going to Bromsgrove to provide more money to be wasted. I believe a new club is the only answer but appreciate that it is easily said and not so easily done!!.
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Post by jupu on Aug 27, 2017 11:06:19 GMT
You don't know if it's rubbish unless you try it!
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Post by B*ue dragonstander on Aug 27, 2017 12:44:51 GMT
I think it is fair to say that were a City side of even 3 seasons ago playing against opposition from our current league the vast majority of City fans would have labelled the opposition as "rubbish" as in "I can't be arsed to go and watch City play that rubbish". The quality at this level of the pyramid is hardly worth paying even £8 to watch. Attendances at most clubs just scrape into three figures which says all that needs to be said about the quality of the product.
On the other hand. A match can be entertaining at almost any level and there is the opportunity to have a beer or two in a relaxed atmosphere whilst getting some fresh air. In addition step 9 of the pyramid does offer one thing that City haven't had for years....a small but realistic possibility of reaching Wembley.
100% off topic post 😄
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Aug 27, 2017 13:31:08 GMT
Of course its rubbish, its Step 5 of non-league football. It's maybe maximum two levels up from park football. But you don't mind watching poor quality football, if you know that the club is being run properly, with a hope of a future, and not by shysters who appear to have managed to lose over £7 million whilst running the club, and delivering rubbish football three levels lower than where the club should be playing. Many true supporters, who have struggled with the goings on for so many years, are now not bothering even though the club is winning games, because they are pretty hollow victories. True non-league supporters have never really taken victories as a measure of their support of their club. Some of us have traipsed around the country for many many years, happily watching rubbish. But we are now being made fools of, it seems some supporters are happy being made fools of, but some of us arent.
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Post by oxford on Aug 27, 2017 13:35:07 GMT
Julian. I have watched hundreds of games at the level we are currently at, over the last 35 years,so I make my statement with a reasonable amount of confidence. When I do go to an away game,if the standard surprises me I will be the first to say so.(I hope this doesn't come across as confrontational or belligerent because it certainly isn't meant to be.)
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Post by oxford on Aug 27, 2017 13:37:29 GMT
Jem.You have put it far more eloquently than I could but you have hit the nail right on the head!
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Post by jupu on Aug 27, 2017 16:30:17 GMT
Jem.You have put it far more eloquently than I could but you have hit the nail right on the head! If it's rubbish why have you watched 100s of games at this level?
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Post by jupu on Aug 27, 2017 16:36:01 GMT
Of course its rubbish, its Step 5 of non-league football. It's maybe maximum two levels up from park football. But you don't mind watching poor quality football, if you know that the club is being run properly, with a hope of a future, and not by shysters who appear to have managed to lose over £7 million whilst running the club, and delivering rubbish football three levels lower than where the club should be playing. Many true supporters, who have struggled with the goings on for so many years, are now not bothering even though the club is winning games, because they are pretty hollow victories. True non-league supporters have never really taken victories as a measure of their support of their club. Some of us have traipsed around the country for many many years, happily watching rubbish. But we are now being made fools of, it seems some supporters are happy being made fools of, but some of us arent. But have we only just started being made fools of, or has this been going on for some time?
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Post by oxford on Aug 27, 2017 17:05:51 GMT
Because I enjoy getting out of an evening and watching as bit of football between two clubs that I have no personal attachment to. It's nice to be neutral and view decisions in an impartial way etc. Sometimes the only games close enough are at this level. That is my choice. I accept that the football won't be great but it is better than sitting indoors. Some of the Hellenic clubs around me are run by really good people and,although I admit it hasn't been my prime consideration,I expect they're glad of my cash.I would never waste a Saturday at this level when there is a wider choice
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Aug 27, 2017 21:02:23 GMT
Same, I can't justify a 250 mile round trip up to Bromsgrove to watch City play at this level, when I've got Uxbridge Town half a mile down the canal towpath from where the boats moored! And in their league , I've got familiar names from City's past, such as Rushden & Diamonds, Aylesbury United, Cambridge City, Bedford Town.
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Post by downthelane on Aug 28, 2017 21:50:05 GMT
And the answer to my question is?
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Post by niels on Aug 28, 2017 23:03:17 GMT
And the answer to my question is? Perhaps while we're waiting, you can update us as to where the board are with the planning application for Parsonage Way, after all we're 3 months down the line after the revelation in the WN.
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Post by creaner on Aug 29, 2017 18:05:46 GMT
And the answer to my question is? Perhaps while we're waiting, you can update us as to where the board are with the planning application for Parsonage Way, after all we're 3 months down the line after the revelation in the WN. And when shareholders can expect the AGM to be told the financial state of the club and so directors can share the plan for the future.
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Aug 29, 2017 18:56:27 GMT
Is that the one for year ended 31.05.16 where we lost 155 k, leaving us with 497 k ?
or is it the one for the more important year ended 31.05.17 where we have lost another estimated near 250k, leaving us with just 250 k ?
From a SGL asset " sold for 7.3 million " that's some going since 2008, Never mind, Hampson and Layland have done us proud - we're stuck with one, and the other's happy where we are !
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