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Post by thatloudbloke on Jul 11, 2016 17:49:52 GMT
To become a director 'proper', he needs to be elected !! this was a few years ago 2 years ago By WCFC AddThis Sharing Buttons Joe Murphy joins WCFC Board & Season Tickets are now available from the Tourist Information Centre Worcester City Football Club is pleased to announce that Joe Murphy has recently joined the Board of Directors. Many supporters of the Club will already know Joe who has been the Club’s Football Secretary since June 2009. He is responsible for effectively managing all football administration, being the Club’s point of contact for the Football Conference, Football Association and the Worcestershire FA. Joe is a member of the Worcestershire Football Association, sitting on the Full Council and the Football Services Committee. & in my opinion he should not be used in association to the board that is not wanted, he could be what the club needs to go forward, need to wait & see..
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Post by cityman on Jul 11, 2016 17:59:42 GMT
Interesting what you find whilst googling Companis House (beta) and type in the company you are searching in this case Worcester City Football Club. The Filing History on The 14th July 2015 gives you all the names of the shareholders and how many shares they own.
Even more interesting or should I say surprising is that one ex Director now Chairman of another club has 2400 with his family having an extra 100. Was he in the room Thursday? and how did he vote ? suppose we will never now that.
You just couldn't make it up.
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Post by greenman on Jul 11, 2016 18:45:40 GMT
According to Companies House a Joseph Murphy was appointed a Director in 2014. Is this another J Murphy or his doppelganger?
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Post by thesecondjack on Jul 11, 2016 18:50:47 GMT
Joe has been on the board for a while! He is nothing new!
My original pondering of peoples thoughts on him have perhaps somewhat been answered by people not knowing he's a director until now.
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Post by The sound and the fury on Jul 11, 2016 22:37:44 GMT
Very interesting. According to that record I have gone away. Not that I'm aware of. Wondered why I didn't get any communication from the Board about the meetings.
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Post by Croc on Jul 12, 2016 9:39:26 GMT
Just whacked a letter into the Worcester News about all of this
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Jul 12, 2016 21:29:41 GMT
Whilst everyone quite rightly has an opinion to express whatever ( within reason ) on message boards, when speaking about something factual, it really does help to get the " facts " correct - and I suggest even more so if it's on someone else's forum ! The Kidderminster Forum has these postings
garthrocket says " Cecil Duckworth (then owner of WWRC) made an offer some years ago and it was rejected by the then City board. "
FACT - No, he did not make any offer of any kind, therefore there was nothing to reject.
thesecondjack says " Warriors boss Jim O'Tool has already said that although both Warriors and Cecil would like to help out WCFC......"
FACT - No, they did not say that they would like to help out WCFC, what they actually said as an attachment to the Perdiswell application was " Mr Duckworth , and Warriors , like the approach and plans and wishes WCFC & WCFCST every success with the ambitious plans to move to Perdiswell, and believes it is the best solution for both clubs, ".
Wishing us the best is not the same as helping us out !
At a time when some emotions are running high, and clarity is required over many things, can we all just post factual statements that are ................factual ?
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Post by thesecondjack on Jul 12, 2016 21:38:55 GMT
Eh, slip of the tongue perhaps. Ultimately on the Kiddy forum they were concerned that another local club has hit hard times and needs help, someone suggested the rugby ground. Maybe I wasn't 100% accurate, but I don't think most are seriously scrutinising Worcester news on an unnofficial Kidderminster forum, posted by one user.
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Post by alwaysnextyear on Jul 12, 2016 21:54:58 GMT
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Post by thesecondjack on Jul 12, 2016 21:55:55 GMT
No worries!
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Post by dragon on Jul 24, 2016 18:16:08 GMT
Thread has dried up since blame for lack of signings put firmly on us `agitators`. It`s easy to keep our `pens dry` and our money firmly in our pockets. The Board have got everything well in hand we`re told so we can all leave them to get on with it !
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Post by Woodenose on Jul 25, 2016 10:46:51 GMT
CHAIRMAN Anthony Hampson says Worcester City’s board and fans’ trust have “cleared the air” following a “really positive” meeting.
At a “full and frank” discussion last Friday, the under-fire chairman says the trust have agreed to work with the board to secure the future of the exiled club.
“After a difficult few weeks this was a really positive discussion,” Hampson said.
“We have been able to clear the air and confirm that we all want what is best for WCFC.
In the short to medium term, it says the focus is on “ensuring the continued financial stability” of City.
It also admits these “assurances” were welcomed by representatives of the trust, saying they “remain committed to the best possible outcomes” for City.
Trust chairman Dave Wood said he was behind the proposal for continuing dialogue w
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Post by citytoon on Jul 25, 2016 11:10:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2016 11:26:34 GMT
I'll be interested to hear the ST's side of this. I still can't see a future if Hampson is at the helm.
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Post by Mark on Jul 25, 2016 12:16:23 GMT
I'll be interested to hear the ST's side of this. I still can't see a future if Hampson is at the helm. I agree. Coming from Hampson it just sounds to me like the Trust have been fobbed off with more promises of jam tomorrow and in the meantime nothing changes and the Club is still heading for oblivion.
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Post by thesecondjack on Jul 25, 2016 13:41:23 GMT
The relationship between supporters and the board is certainly still fractured, which isn't good for the club. If Hampson & Co are to continue running the club, the relationship needs to be healed. I'd urge directors to make more effort to improve transparency, and be more visible on matchdays. Regular 'off the pitch' updates from directors on the website would be a good start. As for on match days, it'd be great to see more of you about. I feel like Mike Davis provided a great link between the board and fans on match days, being a director selling the 50:50 tickets, if a fan wanted to ask him a question, he's easy to find! I'm sure there is good reason for mingling with officials from other clubs, but it doesn't help the 'us and them' mentality.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2016 14:02:57 GMT
Why are the board going to change their attitude now? The policy has been the same since Hampson was shoehorned in by Hallmark, i.e. one of maintaining a rearguard action. They have to block access to accounts; cover over any damaging evidence, and put as much time between the disgraceful sale of SGL and their departure as possible. Time will cover their tracks. There are people in Worcester who won't even remember we once had a football ground.
Hampson has to go, and all trace of the Boddy/Hallmark axis swept away before any progress can be made.
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Post by thesecondjack on Jul 25, 2016 14:52:35 GMT
Why are the board going to change their attitude now? The policy has been the same since Hampson was shoehorned in by Hallmark, i.e. one of maintaining a rearguard action. They have to block access to accounts; cover over any damaging evidence, and put as much time between the disgraceful sale of SGL and their departure as possible. Time will cover their tracks. There are people in Worcester who won't even remember we once had a football ground. Hampson has to go, and all trace of the Boddy/Hallmark axis swept away before any progress can be made. But if Hampson & Co staying is the hand we've been dealt - make the most of the situation, right? If we can encourage the board to change their spots, then lets do it.
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Post by thatloudbloke on Jul 25, 2016 15:23:53 GMT
the City theme tune is very apt.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2016 15:52:16 GMT
Why are the board going to change their attitude now? The policy has been the same since Hampson was shoehorned in by Hallmark, i.e. one of maintaining a rearguard action. They have to block access to accounts; cover over any damaging evidence, and put as much time between the disgraceful sale of SGL and their departure as possible. Time will cover their tracks. There are people in Worcester who won't even remember we once had a football ground. Hampson has to go, and all trace of the Boddy/Hallmark axis swept away before any progress can be made. But if Hampson & Co staying is the hand we've been dealt - make the most of the situation, right? If we can encourage the board to change their spots, then lets do it. But they won't change their spots. If they wanted to change they would have done so by now. They aren't interested in what we, you, me or the ST say. They'll just delay and stall until WCFC is just a memory.
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Post by thesecondjack on Jul 25, 2016 16:39:40 GMT
You might well be right, I suspect you are - but surely we need to hope that the overwhelming 'fan' support for community ownership, calls to resign and the willingness by many to support a new club over WCFC might well be the kick up the backside they need.
I think IF the Club board, ST board and WCFC supporters are to work together for the good of WCFC, we need to all try and make the effort to help the cause we all (hopefully) have a heart - the club!
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Post by greenman on Jul 25, 2016 17:01:44 GMT
I await with interest the new spirit of working together, as when the Trust had Directors on the Board they were completely ignored. If the Chairman now believes in a Community Club as being the way forward perhaps as a gesture of his faith he should now disengage the Birmingham solicitors from extracting more monies from the Club and support the Trust's proposals. How quite he will go back to shareholders with an about turn I again will watch with anticipation.
Having witnessed his disgraceful performances at both the EGM and the meeting prior I have no confidence in his ability or vision to lead the Club from extinction.
The business plan illustrated by a Director had no content which suggested to me had not been thought through, more a wish list and no how it was going to happen and no individuals taking responsibility for it.
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Post by jimbo on Jul 25, 2016 20:07:02 GMT
Scepticism Paul ?? We all know that Anthony can be a good 'mouth piece'...... Until we hear the trust side of this we can only ask.......... Is this another example ??
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Jul 26, 2016 6:40:27 GMT
I'm having to try and hold my tongue on this one. But Lord Ealing, you are spot on. Hopefully I'll be briefed tonight as to why that statement was issued, although its worth noting the comments from Dave Wood are very different to Hampsons. Hampson says the Trust will work with the Board, Dave says the Trust will engage with the Board, very different. The Trust have always been engaging with the Board, so no change there. It also says that the Board are willing to review the club ownership structure "at the right time" - so clearly the Board have a) not even started any review of constitutional change, and b) don't believe that this is the right time! Well if this isn't the right time, when is?? I don't see anything positive in that statement at all, the Board have their mandate from shareholders to continue with their plans for the future of the club, and they're not going to change their spots, why should they? And to be honest, I have more respect for them if they don't. If they want to continue running the show, they can't just be wavering in all directions. So as I see it, with a bit of reading between the lines, nothings changed, except the Board have managed to successfully turn down the heat, without any compromise at all, Hampson must be happy with that one!
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Post by kentenigmawcfc on Jul 26, 2016 22:48:34 GMT
I'm having to try and hold my tongue on this one. But Lord Ealing, you are spot on. Hopefully I'll be briefed tonight as to why that statement was issued, although its worth noting the comments from Dave Wood are very different to Hampsons. Hampson says the Trust will work with the Board, Dave says the Trust will engage with the Board, very different. The Trust have always been engaging with the Board, so no change there. It also says that the Board are willing to review the club ownership structure "at the right time" - so clearly the Board have a) not even started any review of constitutional change, and b) don't believe that this is the right time! Well if this isn't the right time, when is?? I don't see anything positive in that statement at all, the Board have their mandate from shareholders to continue with their plans for the future of the club, and they're not going to change their spots, why should they? And to be honest, I have more respect for them if they don't. If they want to continue running the show, they can't just be wavering in all directions. So as I see it, with a bit of reading between the lines, nothings changed, except the Board have managed to successfully turn down the heat, without any compromise at all, Hampson must be happy with that one! Thoroughly agree with your interpretation of things Jem and Archie. Nothing has changed. If the Board has changed it's spots it's only to stripes and still not to be trusted. This drama is going to run it's course with the not unexpected tragedy to happen thanks to the Board past and present. Enjoy the Club you love while it lasts but I'm not wasting any more money on them while the shysters are running the Club into the ground blaming the Trust and anyone who knows what they are up to and is prepared to stick the head above the parapet and say so. As far as I'm concerned it's the Phoenix Club or nothing now unless the Board and ex Board stop blocking and delaying things and disseminating false accusations and ploys to make the gullible question whether it is the Trust or individuals who are delaying things when in actuality it is the Board and ex-Board and their families 25.0001% majority shareholders dictating to the 74.9999% minority shareholders and we now know they will block any constitution change that doesn't suit them, as even if the missing votes for the roughly 90,000 shares had been cast at the EGM in favour of change that 25.0001% would still under constitution rules be victorious. The Board/Ex-Board will never allow the Trust to run the Club out of pure vindictiveness as members of the Trust like Jem and Rich made it clear to shareholders and fans what was going on over the Nunnery Way project and why it was flawed. Even with oblivion facing the Club the Board would rather see that happen than step down and away and allow the Trust and business savvy shareholders try to save the Club, what's left of it! No nice try Mr Chairman but I'm having none of it. Your well practised disarming slippery forked tongue continues to say all the right things but like all reptiles your are deaf to anything you don't want to hear and are ready to strike with venom and slither off rather than be honest and progress matters. So go back to your nest of vipers and collectively think again and don't come out till you deliver the right answers to the Trust and the majority (in people terms) of shareholders. You have tried this tired ploy one time too many now.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Aug 3, 2016 11:56:25 GMT
You might well be right, I suspect you are - but surely we need to hope that the overwhelming 'fan' support for community ownership, calls to resign and the willingness by many to support a new club over WCFC might well be the kick up the backside they need. I think IF the Club board, ST board and WCFC supporters are to work together for the good of WCFC, we need to all try and make the effort to help the cause we all (hopefully) have a heart - the club! The club, or the business? Do many people really understand what community ownership is about? Why exactly would fans be asking for the board of directors to resign? The Supporters Trust have never asked for this. Would the board of directors resigning make a blind bit of difference to the business model and strategy of the limited company?
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Post by thesecondjack on Aug 3, 2016 12:13:32 GMT
I'm not sure what you're trying to get at Jem. Fans did call for Hampson (a director) to resign. You were there, and press heard it from next door. I didn't say the ST asked for it.
I haven't the foggiest if most fans understand community ownership.
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Post by Brooksiders Return!! on Aug 3, 2016 12:55:09 GMT
No, that was shareholders, albeit in a rather unprofessional, unconstitutional way of conducting themselves. Quite embarrassing really, as shareholders should know the process for removing directors from office, and I don't see any putting that into motion. There's little point at all of working together when we are poles apart as far as business strategy is concerned. The board want to remain as Ltd. and use shares as the instrument for raising capital, the Supporters Trust want to change the business into a CBS (as of course we already have the business framework in place within the Supporters Trust constitution) and raise capital through community funding streams. We took it to the line, the board put it to shareholders, shareholders voted against change, which was their entitlement. There can be no room for compromise, or this would only dilute the boards plans for the future.The last thing we need now is for the board to resign, they must be allowed to execute their strategy unfettered. The present constitution already allows for a fan owned club (but not community owned) in so much as no individual can own more than 1% of the company. With 140,000 unallocated shares, and a buy in at 50 shares, there's room for 2,800 fans to become owners today. They are hardly queueing up to be involved.
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Post by miserablesod on Aug 3, 2016 16:43:40 GMT
So what are the supporters trust going to do now? Or, is this simply now waiting for the money to run out?
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Post by kentenigmawcfc on Aug 7, 2016 15:08:58 GMT
I have heard a rumour that Mr Hampson offered to step down and some other directors offered to resign too in favour of Dave Boddy returning as Chairman. If this is true don't us mere shareholders get a say and who gave this clique the right to rubber stamp a Board Chairman into office without an EGM at which all shareholders had a say and vote! Yet again, if true, and I have no reason to doubt the source, that this Board and Ex board are corrupt to the core and can never be trusted. They aren't satisfied for neigh on bankrupting the Club they are now determined to finish the job and people wonder why I keep hammering out the same tune! Would you be happy with Boddy in charge again and the same usual suspects from the old Board destroying the Club behind the scenes for good. Absolutely disgraceful!
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