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Post by Woodenose on Jan 7, 2016 13:29:34 GMT
DAVE Hockaday has left his head coach role at Kidderminster Harriers.
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Post by thesecondjack on Jan 7, 2016 14:23:39 GMT
It was a hard job for anyone to try and do, but the Kiddy fans didn't seem to take to Hockaday. When the team were badly beaten (happens a lot) he blamed the players. Brought in some not very good players (this might not be his fault as he was head coach, not manager, but as usual the manager gets the blame) and publicly spoke about how he'd like to return to Leeds at some point in some capacity.
Will be interesting to see who their next permanent manager will be, someone with National League North experience would be a good idea - Not either Matt or Carl please!
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Post by thatloudbloke on Jan 7, 2016 18:08:18 GMT
a hard job & it will be harder for whoever takes charge now...some fans are saying Colin Gordon is not the answer, Liam Mcdonald is fancied by some but its a big step up from Redditch... as thesecondjack says not Carl or Matt they do so much for WCFC...
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Post by Dodger on Jan 9, 2016 9:26:46 GMT
Colin Gordon (the owner) may as well run things until the end of the season as this will save a salary for a head coach/manager. The view is that he's been running things anyway in the background by signing players and agreeing their contracts (rather than Wackaday did?). The only downside would be that he has no scapegoat for when things deteriorate even more........... although there's always the fans to blame, of course.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2016 10:06:10 GMT
He could get Boddy involved, then in two years time both clubs could be playing at Bromsgrove.
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Post by Dodger on Jan 9, 2016 11:16:04 GMT
lol.......and Aggborough could become Asda borouigh Dodger.
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Post by Dodger on Jan 9, 2016 11:21:06 GMT
........and I see that Zaine Francis-Angol has signed an 18 month contract with KHFC (agreed by Flash Gordon) so, presumably, as he's full-time it means KHFC are at least contemplating a full time approach next season?
Dodger.
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Post by thesecondjack on Jan 9, 2016 15:19:46 GMT
It could well be a full time contract with a clause where the contract changes should they get relegated.
The whole situation at Kiddy stinks. They started the season with a manager who was out of his depth, and a chairman who didn't want to sack him because they're friends. The only excuse coming out of the club was that they couldn't afford better players, even though they had said before that they'd budgeted for an average crowd much lower then they were getting (1,100 if memory serves me). They then moved Tim Flowers to the role of 'Head Coach' and announced it in the press... before he's accepted the role (he turned it down in the end). They then went for Hockaday who just blamed the players after each match, and now they have Colin Gordon in charge of everything - a man who many believe to be as bent as a roundabout.
It's starting to sound like a joke, just like Hereford United did before they folded. I'm not saying things are that bad yet, but it's heading that way imo.
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Post by thesecondjack on Jan 9, 2016 15:24:56 GMT
He could get Boddy involved, then in two years time both clubs could be playing at Bromsgrove. Even with how well we know Mr Boddy, I don't think he could mess them up much more then what has already happened to Kiddy (they don't own the ground for him to sell remember) I've heard that Boddy has been at two of our home games on the trot now (not seen him myself mind), I assume it's because we got some new board members he thought they would offer him one due to his brilliant CV.
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Post by Mark on Jan 10, 2016 8:13:53 GMT
If that man ever became involved with City again I for one would never set foot inside a stadium to watch them
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Post by thatloudbloke on Jan 10, 2016 8:59:51 GMT
I hope they make him pay when he comes to the ground, knowing Boddy he would try to get a freebie.
I am not a Kiddy fan but would not wish them him anywhere near their books...
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Post by thesecondjack on Jan 10, 2016 14:59:43 GMT
If that man ever became involved with City again I for one would never set foot inside a stadium to watch them Think I'm with you there!! We shot ourselves in the foot with him the first time around, having him back would be like shooting ourselves in the other foot, the groin and then the head.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2016 12:17:36 GMT
An apology from Boddy would not go amiss, however, I think he's too stupid to realise what damage he caused and how he was manipulated by Hallmark. If he were to return, my allegiance to the club would end. I can never forgive him for what he did to WCFC.
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Post by harriers9 on Jan 11, 2016 21:08:57 GMT
The whole situation at Kiddy stinks. They started the season with a manager who was out of his depth, and a chairman who didn't want to sack him because they're friends. The only excuse coming out of the club was that they couldn't afford better players, even though they had said before that they'd budgeted for an average crowd much lower then they were getting (1,100 is memory serves me). They then moved Tim Flowers to the role of 'Head Coach' and announced it in the press... before he's accepted the role (he turned it down in the end). They then went for Hockaday who just blamed the players after each match, and now they have Colin Gordon in charge of everything - a man who many believe to be as bent as a roundabout. It's starting to sound like a joke, just like Hereford United did before they folded. I'm not saying things are that bad yet, but it's heading that way imo. Very succinctly put
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Post by Dodger on Mar 30, 2016 21:10:45 GMT
I see that Colin 'Flash' Gordon has decided to relinquish his 'coaching' role at the landlords so he can focus on their off-field potential. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35918223Staying full-time is going to be a challenge with no guarantee of success. I also understand he's been asking shareholders to 'donate' (or probably 'gift' is the correct legal term) their shares to him Maybe he can see the £ signs illuminating before his eyes for when the day comes for him to sell KHFC? Dodger.
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Post by thesecondjack on Mar 30, 2016 21:53:58 GMT
I don't think you're quite right there about the shares Dodger.
Shareholders were asked to donate their shares back to KHFC so that new investors could buy them. Although he is the major shareholder, you could say that donating them back to the club is like donating them to him, but I don't think it's quite as clear cut as that. The question is, why isn't he donating his own shares?
One thing that made me chuckle today was to read that they have a bug going around their squad at the moment, and have had to not play some, and keep them away from training. Some really cannot get a break!
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Post by thesecondjack on Mar 30, 2016 21:57:00 GMT
As for their prospects next season? I think they'll do well to keep 1,100+ on the gates, though their fans have stood by their team well this season. Will being full time guarantee success? NOPE
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Post by Dodger on Mar 30, 2016 22:01:24 GMT
Thanks tsj......a probable slip of the old 'keyboard tongue' on my part It's very unlikely that CG would consider giving up any of his shares as it would affect his long term vision that he has for KHFC. As we know, at the moment, what he says, goes! Dodger.
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Post by Dodger on Mar 30, 2016 22:06:06 GMT
As for their prospects next season? I think they'll do well to keep 1,100+ on the gates, though their fans have stood by their team well this season. Will being full time guarantee success? NOPE Agreed. There are some so-called 'big clubs' still languishing in the CN....plus there are those smaller clubs with big bankrollers (e.g.Fylde & North Furby). Dodger.
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Post by thesecondjack on Mar 30, 2016 22:14:13 GMT
Not to mention ourselves - we always do well against decent clubs. It's just the rest we're naff against.
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Post by Dodger on May 8, 2016 12:19:24 GMT
Not sure if this has been 'overlooked', but I see that Colin Gordon is now Chairman of our old landlords (as well as retaining his CEO status). Maybe he needs the 2 salaries? I suppose Rockin' Rod (Brown) had no choice but to move down the ladder of power. Dodger.
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Post by thesecondjack on May 8, 2016 16:07:05 GMT
As far as I'm aware, Flash Gordon has been the man with all the power/control anyway - just Rod kept the role of chairman.
I still don't trust Gordon one little bit. I worry for Kiddy.
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Post by Down The Pan on May 8, 2016 20:52:04 GMT
I don't know Colin Gordon well enough to form an opinion, other than he the time he played for City. All I know is that he's made a hell of a lot of money as a sports agent so he must be a decent negotiator, and he's got a vast number of contacts in football and other sports to tap into.
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Post by adycrean on May 9, 2016 9:16:53 GMT
You sense that Gordon gets a mixed reception from Kiddy fans, unsurprising given events there over the last 18 months. You can get the impression it is all about him rather than the club.
I have no idea whether he will prove to be good for them or not. However, one thing he does do well is to try and convey his vision for the football club, and what plans he is putting in place to get there. So at least there is a sense of leadership, and a strategy of sorts.
Something the current City Board might learn from. Only since the recent addition of new Board members does there seem to have been any drive to action and impetus to put a coherent plan in place for the future.
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Post by thesecondjack on May 9, 2016 12:37:58 GMT
one thing he does do well is to try and convey his vision for the football club, and what plans he is putting in place to get there. So at least there is a sense of leadership, and a strategy of sorts. Something the current City Board might learn from. Only since the recent addition of new Board members does there seem to have been any drive to action and impetus to put a coherent plan in place for the future. As far as I can tell, the only reason our club now seems to have some direction, is because of the added ST fire power on the board. Gordon has most of the shares at Kiddy, and so has the power to move the club in the direction he wants. Surely if WCFC is to move in the direction that our shareholding fans want, the shareholding fans need make their views known, rather than just letting the board decide everything with little transparency, or accountability.
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Post by thatloudbloke on May 9, 2016 14:18:38 GMT
we need our club to change, we need our shareholders to attend :- The membership of the Supporters Trust gave an overwhelming mandate to push for an EGM to provide a framework for constitutional change for the football club. This is now for shareholders in the football cub to determine.
Jem Pitt gave a high level overview of the finances at the football club, with information in the present published accounts, and previous years accounts, it is clear that the club cannot continue to lose money at its present rate. With no assets, and the need to retain what finance is still within the club, there must be changes brought in to keep the club afloat and in a position to move back home to Worcester at Perdiswell.
Rob Crean explained again why Community Benefit Society offers a more stable way forward, with opportunity to tap in to funding from grants based on community interests, not just football.
Rich Widdowson told the audience that WCFCST were now members of Locality, Locality is the national network of ambitious and enterprising community-led organisations, working together to help neighbourhoods thrive and to promote community projects. We are one of only two organisations in Worcester to have membership of Locality.
its our club, shareholders please use your vote to get WCFC in the right place, apologies to ST board for using your notes to get this point over but you say it better than i do, my family & I full support this way forward.
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Post by greenman on May 9, 2016 15:02:06 GMT
And as the Board has had the request for an EGM for over a week now when can a response be expected. But it would however have been welcome had the Board been proactive and called the meeting themselves, rather than be seen to be forced into action.
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Post by crosscountrymark on Nov 23, 2016 2:23:00 GMT
Kidderminster Harriers have announced ticket details for the Boxing day all ticket game against Worcester City with a allocation of 800 tickets. What is the current ground capacity at the Victoria ground ? , any news on ticket arrangements for home supporters, will they be on sale on Saturday at the Fylde home game ? . Thanks.
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Post by Dodger on Nov 23, 2016 12:36:16 GMT
If they are on sale at the Fylde game, we could have a bumper crowd on the day. No doubt Fylde will bring a few (as befits a top of league team ) and with Kiddy only getting 800 (average home crowd for them double that), there may well be a few Harriers fans turning up to buy tickets from WCFC. Going to Bromsgrove may look a better option than travelling up to BPA anyway - lol A potential nightmare for segregation on Boxing Day? Dodger.
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Post by thesecondjack on Nov 23, 2016 13:12:46 GMT
The club will announce home ticket info in the next few days, however tickets will be on sale at the Fylde game in some way or another - concern is obviously to keep Kiddy fans from turning up just to get their tickets for the boxing day game, so season ticket holders & known regulars should be able to pick up their tickets fairly easily. I might have to think up a couple of questions that only City fans will know as a test!
Like I said, the proper details will come out in the next few days.
Current operating capacity is 2,000, so we have 1,200 to sell out!
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